ancienregimele

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I completely agree with Rohitesh3333 when he says that Sophia's decisions are absurd and her actions are not logical. At this stage of its implementation, the game leads to a state of cognitive dissonance (rupture of habitual perception, bewilderment), when the initially declared form in the process of its development ceases to correspond to its content.
I will not describe all the inconsistent episodes (Aiden, Bennett, lesbian scene with Julia, etc.). Strangely, I now realized that after version 075, Sofia's boobs began to grow and her brain volume began to decrease). Direct dependence is evident.
Version 0.100 contains a ton of junk renders that don't matter. Empty dialogues, unconvincing arguments for certain actions.
In fact, it turned out to be a deviant family. A husband who is exclusively interested in work and who becomes insane when he starts gambling. The son, who is allegedly embarrassed to meet girls of his age, therefore in every possible way inclines his mother to intimacy. He loves her so much that he leases his mother to the main bully in the school, who mocks and humiliates her. A sister with megalomania and hatred of her younger brother wants to know the delights of lesbian love not only with her friend, but also with her mother, and for this she puts her mother under Julia. And Sophia has only three main excuses in her arsenal: for the sake of my son and family, I drank and I can’t help myself and passion covered her head over heels, so she could not resist her instincts. Neighbors and relatives are the same. They all found each other.
Mixing styles is no longer erotic, but not porn yet.
It is in vain that some fans state that forum members are mostly moaning and crying. No. They, like many, want the game to be interesting for the maximum number of people. I do not believe people who enthusiastically declare on every page that they absolutely love this game, that they are happy with the speed of updates and the development of the plot. These are either hired clappers, or they have very low requests for the game itself, when it is enough to just look at the pictures without going into the text, meaning and perspective ...
I didn't want to offend anyone. It's my personal opinion.
I tend to agree with what you say but two of the issues you refer to have been dealt with. There is now no "Twist in the Tale," so that Dylan has not betrayed his own mother to the school bully. If you check back in this thread you'll see (some of) the acrimony that the event generated. So, Dylan remains pathologically creepy but at least he's not an idiot. Those ever-expanding breasts have been reduced to an ample but proportonate size, much like when the game started. I've written a lot about this on F95 & again, if you check back you'll see that this has also been controversial. I took (fratboy?) criticism & facepalms in the interests of shapely, natural bosoms & proper story continuity. I hope we've seen the last of beach-ball breast syndrome suffered by so many women in the gaming world.
I do have some empathy for those who are, perhaps harshly, classed as "whiners," as they vent the frustrations we surely all feel by now. I note especially that whenever anyone complains there is always somebody waiting in the wings to answer & admonish them, as though they had committed sacrilege. Building up frustration levels is a feature of AWAM which followers must learn to live with. That being said, I also empathise with the RL challenges faced by Devs, for whom a game is obviously not the most important thing to consider but on the other hand, 'we all have our problems.'
Overall, I feel that AWAM has lost it's balance in the routes, characters, & update schedule. Let's hope for a beneficial reboot next year.
 
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face it boyz, the fan art of this game is far far away better than the game itself. this game lacks sex action anda sexual vn without sex is like a soccer game played withoutt he ball: pure nonsense no matter dev's excuses. infinite teasing just to milk patreon's community always resolve in deadly boring state. i'll await fot last update but if the teasing nonsense will not stop i'll left this game for good.
 
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Too bad you posted it without exclamation marks or caps lock on. Otherwise I couldn't tell that you're slightly irritated.
L&P only answers to himself and probably to some high-paying patrons, if they even have any questions, coz judging by the update intervals everyone are happy with what they are getting.

You yourself may become one of those elite demigods by joining his side, donating at least $100 or more and in return bombarding the Dev with questions about updates inconsistency, lack of lewd scenes, his not ideal translation ...
Don't forget to keep us updated, preferably daily, on how progress is going once you've done that.

Jokes aside, the latest DAZ update screwed the devs significantly. Ask anyone, and they'll tell you a bunch of stories how much worse it has become: unexpected errores, random glitches, unstability of the program in general.
People laugh when you tell them that coding isn't that easy as they may think ... but it is. We all want this damn game to be completed yesterday, but life isn't that simple and sometimes you just can't rush some things out of the door as you'll make it even worse than planned.
pure nonsense my boy! i'll tell you: i was a big patreon of the dev and i can assure you 2 things for sure: 1) the dev DO NOT listen to the patreon community or the game's fanbase, he's fucking deaf and thids will be his graveyard for his project i assure you; 2) the dev's milking the patreon community to the last drop regardless you're liking it or not.
just make 2+2 and you'll find why he will loose all patreons wery soon if he will notchange his fucking attitude with patreon community and fanbase.
 

Notretsam

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face it boyz, the fan art of this game is far far away better than the game itself. this game lacks sex action anda sexual vn without sex is like a soccer game played withoutt he ball: pure nonsense no matter dev's excuses. infinite teasing just to milk patreon's community always resolve in deadly boring state. i'll await fot last update but if the teasing nonsense will not stop i'll left this game for good.
speak for yourself, I prefer the official art over any of the fan art.
 

Notretsam

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Man, so much frustration and anger in this thread! Say what you will, but L&P's game has definitely inspired passion from the players.

Personally, I don't mind the lack of hardcore sex in this game. When I want that I can go to just about any other game in the world. AWAM is trying for something different, and that's how I calibrate my expectations. I think L&P is going to be one of those creators that I support every so often for short periods of time. When he does good work I'll support him, and when he goes on a 4 month hiatus I'll pull back my support. I think the game is fun to discuss, and I do wish a lot of things about it were different, but don't let it ruin your day if someone loves or hates it.

Originally I had planned on following the good wife path because it felt the most appropriate for Sophia's character. But there's a push/pull in that you as a paying customer are missing 90% of the game's content if you go that route- so you're literally paying for something that you aren't utilizing. To Blockout's point, the GW path feels like a huge missed opportunity. Liam could be developed so much better on that route, and we could get a better sense of why Sophia loves him. It would also make sense that this route could have the earlier payoff for sex (and I mean good sex) because it would be in character. This is a problem that a lot of corruption games have; the non-corruption path is devoid of content. Games like this always seem ask the player to choose the character's path, but practically speaking there's rarely a reason to chose the non-corruption story because you're missing everything. I recently started playing Jessica O'Neil's Hard News and it has the same problem. If you play her as a respectable person there are only minor benefits, but it costs you the bulk of the content. It's a big resource commitment, but if you really want players to choose then there has to be exclusive content on both paths. It does seem that the GW path is about to get more attention in AWAM, but I wonder if it's going to be enough.

From a purely creative standpoint, AWAM does frustrate me. Not because of the lack of sex, but because of how long it is taking to tell a story. As a creator it feels like L&P is somewhere beyond the Point of Diminishing Returns, and is somewhere around the Point of Negative Returns. He's putting in a lot of input, but I'm not sure it's resulting in appropriate levels of output. At some point good enough really is good enough. Sometimes you just need to put the pencil down and release what you have. This doesn't mean you need to rush the final product, but it does mean you can't always wait until everything is perfect. I have suggested before that I think he should give himself a firm schedule- that way he knows what restraints he has. If the next release is going to be 1/3 of a day, and he gives himself 3 months to complete it, then he knows what he has to work with. He has to deliver enough content for 1/3 of a day, and he needs to do it in 90 days (just an example, but I think 3 months is a sweet spot). From there he can dedicate resources appropriately. Right now he's only doing half of that, he knows the scope of the release but he doesn't set a firm release date. In my mind that's a mistake because it allows him to endlessly tweak and change things and that results in delays.
excellent post, yeah AWAM story advancement is frustrating but it helps when you realize the main story is the corruption of Sophia and everything that happens go towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with someone else not named Liam. GW route isn't the main story and Filthy route is, that is why I think there always be less content and missed opportunities on the GW route.

AWAM is frustrating to me as I would prefer there were no scenes with Liam at all and the whole casino story wasn't in-game. To be fair though, we can look at any VN/Game and always find something we would prefer was different.
 

Notretsam

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you're not God my boy, and most of the people agree with my ideas. if you like this game well, i'm be happy for you. but let people who are tired of the endless teasing to speach about it.
I presume you talking to me, we on page 2312 in this thread and most of them have the same complaints you talking about, how many more pages of the same complaints do you want? Especially since the complaints are complete nonsense.

When you post, you invite people to comment, if you can't handle people disproven your complaints, then maybe you should rethink your complaints or whether you should post at all :)
 
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I presume you talking to me, we on page 2312 in this thread and most of them have the same complaints you talking about, how many more pages of the same complaints do you want? Especially since the complaints are complete nonsense.

When you post, you invite people to comment, if you can't handle people disproven your complaints, then maybe you should rethink your complaints or post at all :)
again another guy who thinks that chatting in a forum is like to win/loose a boxe fight...

"...SPEACK FOR YOURSELF...": this was you, not me... of course i speak for myself and not in others behalf... apart from that, regardless youlike or not, a dev that do not listen to the fanbase community is destined to failure... if lots of people do not like the teasing nonsense anymore he should consider this as a warning in my thinking.
 

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again another guy who thinks that chatting in a forum is like to win/loose a boxe fight...

"...SPEACK FOR YOURSELF...": this was you, not me... of course i speak for myself and not in others behalf... apart from that, regardless youlike or not, a dev that do not listen to the fanbase community is destined to failure... if lots of people do not like the teasing nonsense anymore he should consider this as a warning in my thinking.
1) its boxing fight and not boxe fight
2) You're the one who went negative first towards me
3) I just replied with my opinion and directly called you out for a very targeted post (which I still presume was directed at me)
4) The End
 

abram1

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pure nonsense my boy! i'll tell you: i was a big patreon of the dev and i can assure you 2 things for sure: 1) the dev DO NOT listen to the patreon community or the game's fanbase, he's fucking deaf and thids will be his graveyard for his project i assure you; 2) the dev's milking the patreon community to the last drop regardless you're liking it or not.
just make 2+2 and you'll find why he will loose all patreons wery soon if he will notchange his fucking attitude with patreon community and fanbase.
Hey, hey, easy there, Fido. Don't recall we've been drinking together, buddy, so leave your cocky attitude elsewhere.

You're entitled to your opinion, that's fine, but please don't tell us what to do and we won't tell you where to go.

I see no indication that L&P is loosing his supporters unless you can prove otherwise. Daydreaming is quite alright but you gonna have to face the reality time to time. There are way too many crybabies in this thread. There's plenty of wanking material on this forum or on specific web sites.

Why are you here, guys? Yes, most likely L&P doesn't give a flying F about our complaints, are you happy about that now? Will this info improve your lives, make you happier? The Dev is working at his own pace, accept or move along.
 

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Alright time to change the topic and maybe get back on the discussion here

So I been thinking about the Dylan voyeur shower scene and I have a theory, I'm thinking that Patricia was aware of Dylan spying and if she is, that would be awesome.

In past, I said I didn't like it as Sophia is MC but also said in past, I don't mind someone else being MC if it helps to advance the story, I couldn't see any logical reason for Dylan shower scene, accept it was a really cool scene and people would enjoy it. However, I now think Patricia saw Dylan and didn't say anything to anyone as she most likely really enjoyed it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I could see this leading to Patricia telling Sophia and further goes towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with Dylan.
 
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Hey, hey, easy there, Fido. Don't recall we've been drinking together, buddy, so leave your cocky attitude elsewhere.

You're entitled to your opinion, that's fine, but please don't tell us what to do and we won't tell you where to go.

I see no indication that L&P is loosing his supporters unless you can prove otherwise. Daydreaming is quite alright but you gonna have to face the reality time to time. There are way too many crybabies in this thread. There's plenty of wanking material on this forum or on specific web sites.

Why are you here, guys? Yes, most likely L&P doesn't give a flying F about our complaints, are you happy about that now? Will this info improve your lives, make you happier? The Dev is working at his own pace, accept or move along.
cocky attitude? sit down, take a long inspiration, take another one... stop insulting people who think otherwise your opinion and grow up a little... as i said i was a big patreon of l&p: this is the way to help artists, i mean with hard currency, not insulting others and blabbering like you. by the way i'm an artist myself and i know to accept others opinion since i play and make music from ages till now. by the way, with guys like you its time WAISTED. by by...
 
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It's my first comment on this site and I would like to find out who is agree with my feeling of the most attractive features of this story.

First of all, I found the situation with stevedores really stirring and I still hope they will appear in next updates. That scene with Ivan's hot talk attracted me to this game.

The next thing that makes tremble many fans while playing is the blackmail story. Aiden's tasks are something that I personally wait in each update. The most exciting thing about them is Sophia's gradual acceptance and finding new arguments for her conscience why she withstands such an attitude from her student. Besides, it's very interesting how the author describes her thoughts, especially when she finds even something arousing in the tasks. I really hope that some bdsm stuff will appear in the game. It would be really thrilling if 7th or 8th task would be a lesson at school during which Sophia would have to insert a remote-control vibrator in her pussy and Aiden would play with different types of vibration. At the end of the lesson Sophia would have her panties soaking wet. And except Aiden and his mate other students wouldn't find out the real reason for strange amendments in the voice of their teacher, they would only have to assume. And finalizing Aiden’s topic I suppose many fans desire Sophia to be gangbanged by Aiden and his buddies. This scene would be perfect with DP and forced squirting as I believe that by that time, she would constantly dream about young guys relentlessly fingering her G-Spot and making her intensely cum.

As for the latest update, I found it really horny when Alyssa instead of switching off Sybian turned on an additional rotation and then Sophia lost control over her body. I couldn’t even imagine that the lesbian route could be so mind-blowing. I hope in next updates girls will go further and Alyssa offers Sophia some bondage while riding Sybian. This could result in teasing as it was earlier but with some additional lust torture because helplessness and submission while being tied can bring brighter orgasms to the main character and also let Alyssa test Sophia’s boarders of sexuality (and maybe even broaden them).

All in all, guys, I would like to get your feedback on my point of view. Do you agree with my vision of alluring triggers that make this game so teasing and exciting? And would someone like to see the hot scenes I dream of?
 
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Journey95

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It's because there are so many routes in the game. If each route was like a separate story-game, then there would be no problems with storytelling.
Well the dev shouldn't have included so many routes in the game, its already so slow paced compared to others but then also having so many characters is just too much.
 
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Well the dev shouldn't have included so many routes in the game, its already so slow paced compared to others but then also having so many characters is just too much.
On the contrary, I like a large number of routes. In my opinion, this will not be a problem for the game if all these routes have interesting development. But if these are empty routes, without interesting content, then yes, this is bad!
 

armion82

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L&P started on October 2nd on the first 1/3 day update. It's worrying, in terms of production speed, for 1/3. But, L&P has moved, it may have been late, etc. It's his life, that's up to him. We have nothing to say about it. But if the production speed doesn't change, then going down to 1/3 doesn't help at all. We will have the real answer with the second 1/3. If it's not going faster than the current update, we're going to have to worry.
Don't expect second and third part to go faster.They are much bigger and probably more complex(after all we are talking for scenes with much more characters-school,second side job,especially Sam's concert).Not to mention we can expect some events to be even bigger than the ones we have so far.
 

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pure nonsense my boy! i'll tell you: i was a big patreon of the dev and i can assure you 2 things for sure: 1) the dev DO NOT listen to the patreon community or the game's fanbase, he's fucking deaf and thids will be his graveyard for his project i assure you; 2) the dev's milking the patreon community to the last drop regardless you're liking it or not.
just make 2+2 and you'll find why he will loose all patreons wery soon if he will notchange his fucking attitude with patreon community and fanbase.
The way you butcher the language and speak utter gibberish, if you were subscribed to my patreon page I'd be deaf to you as well. :HideThePain:
 

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Alright time to change the topic and maybe get back on the discussion here

So I been thinking about the Dylan voyeur shower scene and I have a theory, I'm thinking that Patricia was aware of Dylan spying and if she is, that would be awesome.

In past, I said I didn't like it as Sophia is MC but also said in past, I don't mind someone else being MC if it helps to advance the story, I couldn't see any logical reason for Dylan shower scene, accept it was a really cool scene and people would enjoy it. However, I now think Patricia saw Dylan and didn't say anything to anyone as she most likely really enjoyed it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I could see this leading to Patricia telling Sophia and further goes towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with Dylan.
I don't think there's anything hinting at this, but who knows. Patricia definitely seems like the sort of character that would be calculating enough to see/plan for something and slow play it for her advantage. I don't know why, but I was actually surprised with her behavior towards Dylan, I didn't expect that and it makes me wonder if she'll do something similar with Ellie.

excellent post, yeah AWAM story advancement is frustrating but it helps when you realize the main story is the corruption of Sophia and everything that happens go towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with someone else not named Liam. GW route isn't the main story and Filthy route is, that is why I think there always be less content and missed opportunities on the GW route.

AWAM is frustrating to me as I would prefer there were no scenes with Liam at all and the whole casino story wasn't in-game. To be fair though, we can look at any VN/Game and always find something we would prefer was different.
This got me thinking. Corruption stories are hot, but I think there is a conflict in their implementation. By definition, for a character to be corrupted they need to be innocent at the beginning. But, in order for the corruption to be believable (because that's what makes it erotic) it needs to be slow. This creates a conflict because the character needs extensive time to become corrupted enough to allow for lewd scenes. Move too quickly and you lose the sense of corruption that comes from the build-up of tension, but move too slow and the game feels stalled. Sophia begins AWAM very innocent for someone her age and experience, so it has taken relentless corruption to get her to where she is today. That's taken years of development. But at the same time it's only been like two and a half weeks since the game began. In less than a month, Sophia has gone from an innocent loving wife, to a conflicted and adventurous woman. When you play the game from start to finish, it's an almost relentless stream of pressure on her since day 1. I think that actually hurts the game because in fewer than 20 days she has gone from purely innocent to going to second base with her daughter in the shower- that's crazy to think about. But would it be better if it was slower? Absolutely not, we're not getting any younger.

I think future corruption games would be better off starting with a character that isn't so innocent. If the idea is to corrupt a woman into a sex fiend, it would be an easier sell if the woman starts with significant sexual experience. This would reduce the amount of corruption, so that's unfortunate, but you can still corrupt someone further even if they're already corrupt. You could start the game with the woman admitting that she has cheated in previous relationships (but not her current one) so that the door is open because it is in her character to cheat. If incest is your thing, then you could open the game with acknowledging that the MC and her children have a "very close" relationship that she admits is a bit inappropriate at times. Starting the MC from this position would jump start the game by creating a character with cracks in the armor. These cracks are easier to exploit and can lead to earlier payoff as opposed to an innocent MC who needs to be convinced just to wear a bikini.
 
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