VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Dan5k74]

Friends, I recently met Sofia! She is certainly a beauty. I asked her to take my photo!
That's what came out of it:
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I guess you said a big "Cheeese" ...

 

[Old Dog]

Has anybody else noticed that Tyler is not in the poll?

Other excluded

Bennett
Neil
Museum boys
Larry
Morello
school principal
DeShawn
Andre

 

[Sabertooth__]

I'm not sure I agree with your statement that the "pace was fine." We're an in-game week away from Sophia having her first extramarital encounter, and yet when this day began all we could talk about was how far she had to go. Even knowing what we know now, all I can think is that in seven days Sophia has to make a lot of progress with someone in order to feel comfortable enough to cheat on Liam with them.

In my opinion we were badly in need of what Day 12 has given us. But there are problems. In my opinion, it does not break the game's internal consistency that Sophia could/may have sex on every route. But the devil is in the details. Are we breaking internal consistency if Sophia's corruption is advanced primarily via methods that would put her or her career in danger? Putting aside my deep problems with the scene with the Apostles, the entire premise is jarring and breaks the game's internal consistency for reasons that have been stated before. If the next task for Aiden has Sophia doing something in the classroom, especially if it includes another student, it will be twice that she puts her career on the line.

By the rules as we understand them, this should be a non-starter; or it must result in some sort of consequence. If L&P doesn't intend on us to think like that, if we're supposed to just go with the flow, then the rules have been miscommunicated. I recently played a game called The Interview. It's a fine little lewd game, but I noticed a ton of issues with consistency. For instance, while one character is getting seduced and fondled, her friend is nearby in the same room. But no reference is ever made of the friend and if she is aware of what's happening. So I contacted the dev and asked about these issues with consistency. He said "Oh, yeah thanks, but to be honest that was the furthest thing from our mind. We wanted to make a hot scene." And you know what? That's fine- if I'm not supposed to think about the game like that then ok, just let me know. If AWAM doesn't want me to consider the ramifications of Sophia behaving in a sexual way with her students, ok; but please communicate that I shouldn't care.

If, however, the rules have been properly communicated to us, then there needs to be consequences and her thought process needs to be communicated. It isn't impossible that someone may decide to do a 180 degree turn and throw away what they've worked for. If Sophia's corruption is so deeply rooted already that she would rather embrace it even at the cost of her previous values, then that can be successfully done- it just needs to be shown that she's making that decision. What we can't do indefinitely is this "Oh, I know I shouldn't do ______, but I'll only do it because _______ so it isn't really a big deal." Instead we need to see Sophia say something like "I want to do _____ and I know that could have consequences, but fuck it I don' care."

TLDR: I think the uptick in the pacing is fine, but we need to understand if the game wants us to critically think about Sophia's actions in relation to the rules or if we're just supposed to go with the flow.

What really concerns me is not that the pace is been increased in this day, it had to be at some point. What concerns me is will L&P just keep this trend going every subsequent day. If that becomes teh scenario it's problematic. This new level should be maintained atleast for the next two days and then he can again go a little further.

And the part about consequences is what I want to see too. I would like if for an extreme choice that Sophia makes she also has a price to pay. I have always tried to believe that this isn't a cheap porn game that won't care for the acts carried out by the character. And if it ever reaches the point where L&P just ignores the consequencs or dangers for the purpose of making the scene hotter that would be the end of me playing this game. I can play those trashy games happily but not see something that has been so good actually degrade to the same level as others.

And the game Dev you mentioned, that's exactly how I envision most of the games are made. The Devs focus more on the hot scene rather than the consequencs, surroundings and the build up to it. L&P till now has taken them all into consideration for the most part. But as he is mentioning that the scenes are going to get hotter for days 13 and 14, I really hope that in the long run he does not become like the others and only focus on the sexual content in the scene and ignore the build up and reasoning for it.

I would like him to add more reasons for Sophia to agree to sexual stuff, more excuses which can be convincing. Especially the alcohol cliche is gotta go.

As much as I like the recent update, I can't deny that the writing was weaker than usual. The 2nd side job was indeed the most weakly written and also the Aiden task had issues during the initial part with how the dialogues used by Sophia or for Sophia weren't convincing, even though I tried to make myself believe them. Dylan's language right from the beginning is just too direct, that could have been done after he had saved Sophia or if the conversation built up to it but instead it was right from the beginning. The best written event was the 1st side job. Though there were abrasive dialogues initially in it.

 

[Sabertooth__]

This L&P did not say, it was my guess about how the events of Aiden's fourth assignment might unfold.

Okay, It was put right next to the official message from him and so I assumed that he said this too. I was surprised as to why would L&P say something like that. Thanks for clarification.

 

[Dan5k74]

Has anybody else noticed that Tyler is not in the poll?

Other excluded

Bennett
Neil
Tyler
Museum boys

As I've already had a chance to say in this post, in my opinion, from the moment the developer promotes a poll among his patrons to know which is their favorite character (except Sophia's), it's a bit like asking them who they would like Sophia to have sex with. So it's safe to expect that the first person to have sex with Sophia will be the last one in this poll, or even better we'll have to look for him or her from those who weren't even included in the poll like Mr. Bennett or Tyler.
Imagine what would have become of the Alien saga if Ripley had died first?

 

[Old Dog]

As I've already had a chance to say in this post, in my opinion, from the moment the developer promotes a poll among his patrons to know which is their favorite character (except Sophia's), it's a bit like asking them who they would like Sophia to have sex with. So it's safe to expect that the first person to have sex with Sophia will be the last one in this poll, or even better we'll have to look for him or her from those who weren't even included in the poll like Mr. Bennett or Tyler.
Imagine what would have become of the Alien saga if Ripley had died first?

After the "Aliens" Ripley should of died as for the rest of the films they where terrible

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

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I'll start working on the next update around Juliy 1st/2nd. In the meantime, let's do another favorite character poll and see if something has changed since last year.
And again: Sophia as the MC is excluded from the vote. The character directory can assist you here.


Ava Myers and her "lodgers" (2nd side job)
88


Aiden
132


Alyssa Price
78


Amber (Neighbor friend / Sam's and Julia's "landlady")
46


Carl (Patricia's husband)
27


Christine
16


Claire
17


Dylan
214


Ellie
196


Emma
26


Janitor Clark
56


Julia
39


Liam (Sophia's husband)
10


Logan (Ellie's new BF)
22


Marie (Claire's "lodger")
27


Mover
34


Mr. Herman and Mr. Gibbs (1st side job)
63


Mr. Murray (postman)
26


Nathalie (maid)
67


Patricia
106


Sam
129


"Subway Thugs"
53


Vicky (Gym instructor)
50


Zac Price (Alyssa's "lodger")
48


Cathy
21
1.591 votes in total

after 400 votes


Ava Myers and her "lodgers" (2nd side job) 100

Aiden 153

Alyssa Price 97

Amber (Neighbor friend / Sam's and Julia's "landlady") 63

Carl (Patricia's husband) 34

Christine 19

Claire 21

Dylan 249

Ellie 237

Emma 29

Janitor Clark 65

Julia 44

Liam (Sophia's husband) 14

Logan (Ellie's new BF) 25

Marie (Claire's "lodger") 36

Mover 41

Mr. Herman and Mr. Gibbs (1st side job) 74

Mr. Murray (postman) 30

Nathalie (maid) 79

Patricia 125

Sam 161

"Subway Thugs" 61

Vicky (Gym instructor) 63

Zac Price (Alyssa's "lodger") 67

Cathy 25

1.912 votes in total

 

[Old Dog]

I think that he should of at least limited the number of times that you can vote as multiple votes don't make sense to me.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I think that he should of at least limited the number of times that you can count as multiple votes don't make sense to me.

I hadn't noticed that multiple votes could be done per single user; I'm against. the result is false

 

[dolfe67]

it's a bit like asking them who they would like Sophia to have sex with. So it's safe to expect that the first person to have sex with Sophia will be the last one in this poll

The last in the poll is Liam and she already had sex with him

 

[dolfe67]

I hadn't noticed that multiple votes could be done per single user; I'm against. the result is false

If the poll was limited to one option, there would be an even bigger gap between Dylan/Ellie and the rest

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

If the poll was limited to one option, there would be an even bigger gap between Dylan/Ellie and the rest

if the poll serves to understand which direction the game should go, multiple votes should be limited;
now I go and vote everyone. (what does it mean?)
if instead the survey is just a way to please the supporters (so it is useless) then that's fine

 

[dolfe67]

if the poll serves to understand which direction the game should go, multiple votes should be limited;
now I go and vote everyone. (what does it mean?)
if instead the survey is just a way to please the supporters (so it is useless) then that's fine

Who said anything about the direction the game should go ? It's pure speculation. I don't see a meaning behind this poll other than a plain popularity poll.

Sure you can vote for all characters and it wouldn't mean much, but generally you vote for your favorite top XX ones

 

[truesatan]

did the mom finally bang someone? because I'll wait until she finally bangs someone

She bang her hubby over and over with the good wife path.
But for everything else it might be the sequel "a filthy/slutty wife and mother" with scenes we like in 2040 or l8er.
On the other side, its not the mindless "I bang everything" game.

 

[kingvidal]

WALKTROUGH v.130

 

[DudeDiabolos]

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Sbloccato

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I'll start working on the next update around Juliy 1st/2nd. In the meantime, let's do another favorite character poll and see if something has changed since last year.
And again: Sophia as the MC is excluded from the vote. The character directory can assist you here.


Ava Myers and her "lodgers" (2nd side job)
88


Aiden
132


Alyssa Price
78


Amber (Neighbor friend / Sam's and Julia's "landlady")
46


Carl (Patricia's husband)
27


Christine
16


Claire
17


Dylan
214


Ellie
196


Emma
26


Janitor Clark
56


Julia
39


Liam (Sophia's husband)
10


Logan (Ellie's new BF)
22


Marie (Claire's "lodger")
27


Mover
34


Mr. Herman and Mr. Gibbs (1st side job)
63


Mr. Murray (postman)
26


Nathalie (maid)
67


Patricia
106


Sam
129


"Subway Thugs"
53


Vicky (Gym instructor)
50


Zac Price (Alyssa's "lodger")
48


Cathy
21
1.591 voti in totale

Interesting!
And there are actually people who voted for Liam and Carl?

 

[sergey matveev]

It seems to me that in the further development of the plot, students - artists will still play their role (Sofia, when she bares her breasts in an internal monologue, declares herself that she will not see these people again), Aiden's last words, when he unambiguously showed that for him Sofia , just a one-time tool - used and thrown away. (His words at parting about her breasts and a statement that if she needs Ares to suck her nipples, then he is ready). He humiliated her, in a businesslike way, without a preliminary agreement, bared her boob, patted her, pinched her nipple and rubbed his cock on her back. He showed her that he completely controls the development of the situation with blackmail.
I believe that the plot will lead to the fact that on one of the tasks Sofia asks Aiden to grab her boobs and behave with her as if she were his "bitch".

 

[armion82]

What really concerns me is not that the pace is been increased in this day, it had to be at some point. What concerns me is will L&P just keep this trend going every subsequent day. If that becomes teh scenario it's problematic. This new level should be maintained atleast for the next two days and then he can again go a little further.

And the part about consequences is what I want to see too. I would like if for an extreme choice that Sophia makes she also has a price to pay. I have always tried to believe that this isn't a cheap porn game that won't care for the acts carried out by the character. And if it ever reaches the point where L&P just ignores the consequencs or dangers for the purpose of making the scene hotter that would be the end of me playing this game. I can play those trashy games happily but not see something that has been so good actually degrade to the same level as others.

And the game Dev you mentioned, that's exactly how I envision most of the games are made. The Devs focus more on the hot scene rather than the consequencs, surroundings and the build up to it. L&P till now has taken them all into consideration for the most part. But as he is mentioning that the scenes are going to get hotter for days 13 and 14, I really hope that in the long run he does not become like the others and only focus on the sexual content in the scene and ignore the build up and reasoning for it.

I would like him to add more reasons for Sophia to agree to sexual stuff, more excuses which can be convincing. Especially the alcohol cliche is gotta go.

As much as I like the recent update, I can't deny that the writing was weaker than usual. The 2nd side job was indeed the most weakly written and also the Aiden task had issues during the initial part with how the dialogues used by Sophia or for Sophia weren't convincing, even though I tried to make myself believe them. Dylan's language right from the beginning is just too direct, that could have been done after he had saved Sophia or if the conversation built up to it but instead it was right from the beginning. The best written event was the 1st side job. Though there were abrasive dialogues initially in it.

You should not have any concersn.Sex scenes with Liam barely can pass as a sex scenes.We saw nothing.
I have no idea why he insist to punish the players on Good Wife route and not showing everything during the sex scenes.

 

[Talcum Powder]

If the poll is just for fun and no decisions to be made on it, then no worries. If L&P intends to use the poll as some sort of estimate of popularity of characters or (worse) to make development decisions:

I think that he should of at least limited the number of times that you can vote as multiple votes don't make sense to me.

It doesn't make any sense to anyone with any sense.

I hadn't noticed that multiple votes could be done per single user; I'm against. the result is false

Completely unreliable.

if the poll serves to understand which direction the game should go, multiple votes should be limited;
now I go and vote everyone. (what does it mean?)
if instead the survey is just a way to please the supporters (so it is useless) then that's fine

 

[Talcum Powder]

after 400 votes
...
1.912 votes in total

Question: what does "After 400 votes" mean? Is that the number of unique individual users who voted or the number of times the poll was opened and you can click more than one choice when taking the poll?

Appreciate the info.