ancienregimele

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last post from patron,which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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So there is your answer :ROFLMAO:
Sam doesn't know why, or she did it for Sam subconciously without rationalising why, or admitting it to herself, or both? Either way, I've known prostitutes her age who wouldn't have gone to a bar dressed like that while they were working, let alone to see a teen band & at night FFS. This outfit positively screams, "I'm desperate & I demand attention, look at me," or maybe, "Why is everyone staring? Oh me, oh my, am I really gorgeous? I never guessed." As Monty Python would have put it, "It's all getting extremely silly."
 

bayrischman

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So he split a day in 3 parts to make updates faster and now 1 update takes 4-6 months lol. 1 day in a year. Very nice pace lol
day 12 lasts 16 months if the update comes in december. what a delay of 4 months. instead of faster it gets slower and slower.
 

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Sam doesn't know why, or she did it for Sam subconciously without rationalising why, or admitting it to herself, or both? Either way, I've known prostitutes her age who wouldn't have gone to a bar dressed like that while they were working, let alone to see a teen band & at night FFS. This outfit positively screams, "I'm desperate & I demand attention, look at me," or maybe, "Why is everyone staring? Oh me, oh my, am I really gorgeous? I never guessed." As Monty Python would have put it, "It's all getting extremely silly."
Yes, possible, the outfit may scream it. But Sophia has not been described that way in the whole game and she doesn't think that way about herself.
Who is actually to blame for the outfit debacle? The developer, the player or Sophia? It's just another pigeon or handbag or duel problem. None of this has anything to do with realism. Or do we think it is realistic that the real world will experience such a sexual whirlwind within 30 days.
Monty Python's saying fits very well.
 

ancienregimele

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Exactly my point from an earlier post (though you probably said it better). After the task and the side job where does she go with Sam. She actually likes him so there must be something happening or his path crashes. Here she is screaming for his attention. Will she just be a face in the crowd for him (he knows she is there) until the end when she moves to the front for his reward. That is the question. Where does she take this? Does not matter what she is wearing that is the question. where does she take Sam and where does Sam then take her. Granted, this will at most be Pixil lite.
Sam is a normal young man who asks the age-old question, "Why must I be a teenager in love?" He would spot Sophia the second she arrived, even if she wore militant feminist overalls & be aware of where she was, who she was with & who she spoke with, at all times, even when he wasn't looking at her. Well, that's my memory how it was when the question applied to me, even though it's a long long time ago. I agree something definitely has to happen with Sam but I just can't see the need for her to look like such a sad desperate housewife. IMO, it's another huge L&P mistake, even if the outfit is not particularly significant in what occurs between them.

Seriously, I think it's time he changed his mission statement, not with slight alterations but a complete rewrite. I'd write one for him but he hates pirates.
 

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I feel it will be out by mid October
I have removed the festival of bullshit and recalibrated everything using my updated weights (giving more weight to P&T and less to rendering) and going back through Lord_Xanatos 's progress reports since early July.
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes55%55%30.25%
Rendered Scenes50%25%12.50%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed43.50%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)54
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/6/2021


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Early to mid-November is what this very basic model is predicting. I still think we're in for a slowdown of some sort that will push this to December, we'll see.
 

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Yes, possible, the outfit may scream it. But Sophia has not been described that way in the whole game and she doesn't think that way about herself.
Who is actually to blame for the outfit debacle? The developer, the player or Sophia? It's just another pigeon or handbag or duel problem. None of this has anything to do with realism. Or do we think it is realistic that the real world will experience such a sexual whirlwind within 30 days.
Monty Python's saying fits very well.
It's the Dev. I love the pigeons, they're part of a realistic cityscape. I didn't participate in the handbag debate, (much...at least not here) but the outfit......*%£**$# hell! I'm guessing that L&P had no doubt that it would be selected, given his fanbase but that it would be fun to see, via the poll, how well the totally suitable rock chick chic outfit would fare.

Now that realism has been jetissoned completely, along with "taste & class," I find myself still curious going forward to see just how bad things will become.
 

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Unpopular opinion: Sophia's dress fucking rules and anybody who talks shit about it should be forced to wear it in a biker bar.
Bikers, in a bar, on a beach, or in many other places, wouldn't leave that "dress" on most individuals, male or female. It doesn't fucking rule, it fucking well sucks lemons.
 
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Do I get a free pass if I wore almost that exact same romper at a biker bar in Laramie, Wyoming in the mid 90's? If so then the dress is fucking dumb. If I don't get credit for that then it's just meh.
if you wore it in laramie, they would just think your a stray sheep
 

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Her internal monologues at the last Sam event were pretty straightforward in terms of her affection for Sam. She ended up hoping that he saw her masturbating. She admitted that in a different world, under different circumstances, Sam and Sophia could be a couple. Disregarding the fact that the choice of clothing does not suit the event, it is not as if it would be unusual under these circumstances that Sophia does not wear a bra. She WANTS Sam to see her that way even when she feels guilty about her behavior.
But that's why the other outfit was SO much better!! Firstly it better suited the venue and the likely crowd in attendance.
Secondly she had that mini leather jacket which made it initially look acceptable and would nt call attention to herself.
But if Sophia got some alone time with Same she could have easily slipped off the mini leather jacket revealing what I hope was a strap boob tube underneath. That way she would get the best of both worlds, she can make it clear just to Sam when she wants to.
 

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It's the Dev. I love the pigeons, they're part of a realistic cityscape. I didn't participate in the handbag debate, (much...at least not here) but the outfit......*%£**$# hell! I'm guessing that L&P had no doubt that it would be selected, given his fanbase but that it would be fun to see, via the poll, how well the totally suitable rock chick chic outfit would fare.

Now that realism has been jetissoned completely, along with "taste & class," I find myself still curious going forward to see just how bad things will become.
It's a porn game. In the real world, choices for story progression would be limited only by our preferences, our life experiences, and our imaginations. Here in the game we can only choose which path to choose and which to ignore because we cannot identify with it at all. I wouldn't say that taste and class have gone overboard yet. Many fetishes are served here. And sometimes it suits our taste and sometimes it doesn't. We both sometimes argue about the subject of "blackmail" which for me has nothing to do with taste / class and realism. And yet I admit that the 3rd Aiden event, except for the part with Aiden himself, showed taste and class. We will never like the story as a whole, but in my opinion individual events stand out incredibly from the mass of games. If this is also the case in the future, the game will keep my "valuable" rating.
 

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It's the Dev. I love the pigeons, they're part of a realistic cityscape. I didn't participate in the handbag debate, (much...at least not here) but the outfit......*%£**$# hell! I'm guessing that L&P had no doubt that it would be selected, given his fanbase but that it would be fun to see, via the poll, how well the totally suitable rock chick chic outfit would fare.

Now that realism has been jetissoned completely, along with "taste & class," I find myself still curious going forward to see just how bad things will become.
hzjujk
Yes, possible, the outfit may scream it. But Sophia has not been described that way in the whole game and she doesn't think that way about herself.
Who is actually to blame for the outfit debacle? The developer, the player or Sophia? It's just another pigeon or handbag or duel problem. None of this has anything to do with realism. Or do we think it is realistic that the real world will experience such a sexual whirlwind within 30 days.
Monty Python's saying fits very well.

Which one?
 
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ancienregimele

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It's a porn game. In the real world, choices for story progression would be limited only by our preferences, our life experiences, and our imaginations. Here in the game we can only choose which path to choose and which to ignore because we cannot identify with it at all. I wouldn't say that taste and class have gone overboard yet. Many fetishes are served here. And sometimes it suits our taste and sometimes it doesn't. We both sometimes argue about the subject of "blackmail" which for me has nothing to do with taste / class and realism. And yet I admit that the 3rd Aiden event, except for the part with Aiden himself, showed taste and class. We will never like the story as a whole, but in my opinion individual events stand out incredibly from the mass of games. If this is also the case in the future, the game will keep my "valuable" rating.
There will never be a game that is ideal for everybody & that we agree on. One of the big attractions with AWAM, for me & as you say, has been the ability to avoid, through decision making & choices, paths & parts that are not to an individual's, (in this case my own) taste. This & the top quality renders have kept me playing for 3+ years but there was also a veneer of realism that required no more suspension of disbelief than the average movie or TV show. I considered this to be one of L&P's greatest achievements & if not a USP, at least a pretty rare selling point (RSP?). What I can't understand is why he would voluntarily abandon this approach.

Aside from being curious about the potential for more deterioration, I also have to hope that the Dev gets back to his semi-realistic ways & doesn't let the rot set in.
 

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But that's why the other outfit was SO much better!! Firstly it better suited the venue and the likely crowd in attendance.
Secondly she had that mini leather jacket which made it initially look acceptable and would nt call attention to herself.
But if Sophia got some alone time with Same she could have easily slipped off the mini leather jacket revealing what I hope was a strap boob tube underneath. That way she would get the best of both worlds, she can make it clear just to Sam when she wants to.
Yup, my exact thoughts many posts back.
 
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t3alqdansam

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There will never be a game that is ideal for everybody & that we agree on. One of the big attractions with AWAM, for me & as you say, has been the ability to avoid, through decision making & choices, paths & parts that are not to an individual's, (in this case my own) taste. This & the top quality renders have kept me playing for 3+ years but there was also a veneer of realism that required no more suspension of disbelief than the average movie or TV show. I considered this to be one of L&P's greatest achievements & if not a USP, at least a pretty rare selling point (RSP?). What I can't understand is why he would voluntarily abandon this approach.

Aside from being curious about the potential for more deterioration, I also have to hope that the Dev gets back to his semi-realistic ways & doesn't let the rot set in.
Unfortunately, I think he is on the downward slope. Granted the slope, like his production rate, is incredibly low. His writing is what will save him and I believe he has already shot his wad on that feature.

I believe he is already tiring of the game. The concept of completing this is not the least realistic, as we have all discussed many times, of an 18+ year run. I know I won't be around for it. How many will still be here for PD 16? I ignore the spoiler elements of what is supposed to be happening that day but, that is in like four and a half years - FOR 3 Days!

Are we sure he is not burned out already after four years. SNC took a dive to complete Foot of the Mountain (Just a huge cut scene was his solution.). Is L&P that far away from the same. That could explain why he is so reactive to any criticism. Meh!
 

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I have removed the festival of bullshit and recalibrated everything using my updated weights (giving more weight to P&T and less to rendering) and going back through Lord_Xanatos 's progress reports since early July.
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes55%55%30.25%
Rendered Scenes50%25%12.50%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed43.50%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)54
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/6/2021


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Early to mid-November is what this very basic model is predicting. I still think we're in for a slowdown of some sort that will push this to December, we'll see.
I hate it, but agree. If he cant hit Thanksgiving then look to mid to late December. The BS will come.
 
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