VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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Sam teaches Sofia to play the cello.

So If I make a game with the MC being taught piano, am I making something new?
And then you go and make a game with the MC being taught the flute, are you making something new?

 

[Losersriot]

So If I make a game with the MC being taught piano, am I making something new?
And then you go and make a game with the MC being taught the flute, are you making something new?

The meaning of the cello scene is that Sam is teaching his teacher. And if you consider that you play as a womenn, then the scene is strictly unique.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Hes has been consistently getting slower and getting the story pushed slower.
Less events = more update time now.
Addition of new characters doesn't seem to stop.
Story has 129837 branches.
Still more characters expected.
More jobs.
Now the apparition of DLC promises which is a joke because we all know, himself included, this game is never going to finish.

Could go on but it isn't worth the time.

I really can't comment on his render count. As someone who has artist friends ( not 3d artists ). They don't like to be told what to do and how to do, they do it of their free will. Similarly if he feels he needs 200 renders to tell something I'm all for it.

About the new character thing, I don't know if it was his message or of KillJoys that mentioned that all the characters that play a significant role have already entered the story by day 18. So any more characters are just there for one time to facilitate the event to be conducted smoothly. Example Xavier, he was there so the event could be conducted not because he is here to stay and will have his own route.

 

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How I feel is that there are no new situations atleast for me. But the way they are presented or happen is what is enticing. I was watching an isekai anime recently. It is supposed to be called the father of isekai genre shows because it's actually an adaptation of an old light novel which recently got an adaptation. The thing is that there is nothing in this show that I haven't seen somewhere already, it follows all the tropes and yet is its able to differentiate itself and be a genuinely good show.

A more closer example of this is the art class scene. I have seen it in many games and hated it every single time, though here in this game it is my 2nd favourite. It is totally because of how well it was presented.

They sure are enticing and well presented, but not new, this story has a ton of common places but its been years since porn games started, at some point everything is just going to be a reboot.

 

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[Old Dog]

I really can't comment on his render count. As someone who has artist friends ( not 3d artists ). They don't like to be told what to do and how to do, they do it of their free will. Similarly if he feels he needs 200 renders to tell something I'm all for it.

About the new character thing, I don't know if it was his message or of KillJoys that mentioned that all the characters that play a significant role have already entered the story by day 18. So any more characters are just there for one time to facilitate the event to be conducted smoothly. Example Xavier, he was there so the event could be conducted not because he is here to stay and will have his own route.

It was me and all the characters that we know and some that we have not met yet(Nats boyfriend for instance) have been mentioned so they are not new characters.
As Sabertooth__ has said many characters are just there to facilitate the events(like stepping stones) and then disappear or stay in the background like the principal/janitor/movers/thugs and not play a major part

 

[Losersriot]

Right, but fairly speaking there isn't anything that can actually be classified as new, anything that any of these games have and I mean every game has been done, shown, written somewhere already we are not all aware of everything.

Like the concept of time travel movies, horror movies etc. They have been there for half a century, the only things that keep changing and keep it fresh is the TAKE on these concepts and ideas and their presentation. I hardly believe any scene that gets written nowadays does not bear any similarity to anything done before in different forms of media

You think so because you don't know semantics rules. Only equal semantic units can be compared.

 

[lockerxx]

the only important thing is sophie.

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Dat ass.

 

[Piat]

hello friend

hahahaha lmao hohoho oh man, I'm dying

 

[mulerider]

Tell us more.
A few months ago L&P forbid a very talented "artist" in the fan art thread of making more renders. And guess what, those renders looked very good compared to L&P's. We're talking absolutely the same range in quality.

ok, i gotta ask, how in hell can l&p or anyone "forbid" anyone form making fan art ???????????????

 

[Old Dog]

ok, i gotta ask, how in hell can l&p or anyone "forbid" anyone form making fan art ???????????????

He does not stop anybody from doing Fan Art as I do fan art and I have never had any complaints off him about this.
If you copy his game and hide it behind a patron pay wall then yes he will complain.

 

[Leldorin]

I agree.
I challenge people here to tell me AWAM plot situation(s) that hasn't been seen in another adult game.

But what about :“Can I feel the fabric of your bra/swimsuit?”

 

[mulerider]

He does not stop anybody from doing Fan Art as I do fan art and I have never had any complaints off him about this.
If you copy his game and hide it behind a patron pay wall then yes he will complain.

ok thanks, and yes i know you do alot of fan art, sometimes i think your is better than l&P's and sometimes not,
but i can say the same for a few others on here, and was awhile ago but it was you and bane that me with banner,
thx to both of you, keep making the art work

 

[t3alqdansam]

I would say dialogue should not take more than 2 weeks. Since Mr. Xavier is not around in this update. Damn that guy speaks so much. I believe around 60% of the script for the last update was just him speaking. Such kind of people also make me jealous since I am bad at making and holding conversations even with people I know let alone a stranger but this guy could go on and on for a decade

If you look back (Don't burn time doing so) I stated that Xavier's style of explaining every element in EXCRUTIATING detail was a self portrait of L&P.

 

[TokyoR]

should like to see more content of sophia with the daughter and or the son .... maybe some day , really dont know why people , as developers creators sometimes or many time , try to mess their own work or made their own work seem as something hard to made , i meant it after reading like 10 pages onf last chats ..., his work was no bad 4 o 5 years ago , and by the passong time he did a nolittle amount of renders , and teh pyton or whatever programation sistem is been used , it was being used 2 years ago so it should sufice to go forward , what matter is going forward , hope this game be compledted someday , ........ as side note , * particulary feel like too many characters were added 50 or + , on itself is no bad, but First should focus on end one route for Shpia , then go for the other 2 or so secondaies and , so for, becuase haveing so many open routes is a head pain .. bet even for himself ...

 

[Bishop Robert]

Lord have mercy on me for reading this thread.

Lets all just relax, yeah?

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

LOL you show me a normal picture of a very old update where Sophia's just walking and looking normally somewhere! Her expression is totally natural for this situation. While in your render the woman with the white shirt is showing something to the guy which has to go with any kind of emotion and her face is just DEAD! And her eyes are looking past him as if she's blind! You're definitely not normal in your head!

And comparing me with other devs who apparently don't give a damn about their art as much as I do and also don't even have 5% of different locations, characters and dialogues like my game, just underpins your mental lability!

This was the last time I answered you on any of your troll messages. It's really just a waste of time! As long as you don't proof everyone that you can create and render much faster art and huge scenes the same level like mine from the latest updates and the upcoming one, there's absolutely nothing to talk about anymore!

Just a thought, but you'd be better served responding to those people who like the game and enjoy talking about it and your work which I include myself to be one of. You're never going to please the diarrhea squirts whose only form of enjoyment is crapping on everyone who disagrees with them. Better to just ignore them and save yourself the time wasted responding to them. You not being more proactive in the forums is one of the main reasons why I don't partake in this one that often. Between those who enjoy the game endlessly talking about things that might/could/should/never happen (which I understand. I like to think of possibilities too, but it does get tedious fairly quickly) and those whose only contribution seems to be trying to one up their own negativity, it's really not much fun being in this particular forum.

 

[Bane71]

ok thanks, and yes i know you do alot of fan art, sometimes i think your is better than l&P's and sometimes not,
but i can say the same for a few others on here, and was awhile ago but it was you and bane that me with banner,
thx to both of you, keep making the art work

Buddy, you were wrong. Unfortunately I don’t do renders, I didn’t even try. But I published strangers willingly to remove them at the request of the artist. To my delight, no one of their artists demanded to remove their renders from my mini stories. Thanks to them for that!

 

[Sabertooth__]

If you look back (Don't burn time doing so) I stated that Xavier's style of explaining every element in EXCRUTIATING detail was a self portrait of L&P.

Ya I could see that too, the whole character was just about expressing his love for art. And even though Xavier is verbose his character did help in making Sophia relaxed since his prime focus was always on the art and never on oogling Sophia. The kids too actually made something, and were all not just sitting and eyeing Sophia with ill intentions.

So even if the initial convincing of Sophia wasn't very very convincing to me the environment provided was one where you could believably accept that someone can relax and do it for the sake of art. There was no maliciousness in the air. Except until Aiden arrived, and well that was the only part that Sophia didn't like about the art class even though she didn't know it was Aiden.

 

[mulerider]

Buddy, you were wrong. Unfortunately I don’t do renders, I didn’t even try. But I published strangers willingly to remove them at the request of the artist. To my delight, no one of their artists demanded to remove their renders from my mini stories. Thanks to them for that!

lol ok correction, killjoy made it for me and you helped explain how how to put it up. thx