truerty

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do you think that the animations are bad?
As for me, I thought the animations were excellent. Especially when Andre released them puppies from its cage. That sound, and the way it bounced, god-fuckin-damn lol. This dude, whoever he is, a master in his art. These porn animations clearly have topped all the other games in the list.

Except Aiden's balls looked a bit weird if you guys noticed.
 
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Many people now are mixing L&P's flaws, slow development according to the extension of the story and his rude manners, with his virtues: high quality art and good writing. They are completely bias and now criticize everything that L&P's does, seriously do you think that the animations are bad? He was correct when he said that they are special, you don't see that kind of animations frequently in this kind of games. These animations are clearly made by an specialist, with certain experience, L&P couldn't do that. When you write bad about the animations, you are not only insulting L&P, you are insulting the guy that was hired by him. And now his work, his art, do must be underestimated for the hate that you have against L&P?
I really don't know what to think. I did consider that, if there is an assistant, I'd hate to criticize their work so harshly just because of their association with L&P. Objectively I think the animations are fine, just simply not worth the delay. But in the context of L&P, there's absolutely no way to avoid the criticism.

But regarding if there is an assistant, I really don't know. I wouldn't put it past L&P to be a crazy person and throw himself into learning a new program and greatly improving his skills in a short amount of time. I mean, he seems like the anal type that will just throw himself into something. If there is an assistant, then why aren't they getting credit? Either they don't exist, or L&P has determined that they don't need to get public credit. If it's the latter I'd really like to hear an explanation.
 

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I really don't know what to think. I did consider that, if there is an assistant, I'd hate to criticize their work so harshly just because of their association with L&P. Objectively I think the animations are fine, just simply not worth the delay. But in the context of L&P, there's absolutely no way to avoid the criticism.

But regarding if there is an assistant, I really don't know. I wouldn't put it past L&P to be a crazy person and throw himself into learning a new program and greatly improving his skills in a short amount of time. I mean, he seems like the anal type that will just throw himself into something. If there is an assistant, then why aren't they getting credit? Either they don't exist, or L&P has determined that they don't need to get public credit. If it's the latter I'd really like to hear an explanation.
There is another game that is making this kind of animations, Freshwomen, and they selected their newest animator out of 40 people, you don't make animations like that overnight. The difference is that Freshwomen is been made by 7 people. That's where we need to criticize L&P, his lack of team.
 

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Many people now are mixing L&P's flaws, slow development according to the extension of the story and his rude manners, with his virtues: high quality art and good writing. They are completely bias and now criticize everything that L&P's does, seriously do you think that the animations are bad? He was correct when he said that they are special, you don't see that kind of animations frequently in this kind of games. These animations are clearly made by an specialist, with certain experience, L&P couldn't do that. When you write bad about the animations, you are not only insulting L&P, you are insulting the guy that was hired by him. And now his work, his art, do must be underestimated for the hate that you have against L&P?
I will gladly apologize for some of my statements if we ever find out that L&P actually has hired someone to create animations for him. But where is this person? Not mentioned in the credits, not mentioned on Patreon, not mentioned on F95 and L&P entirely ignores questions regarding this person on F95 and Patreon. Guess why?

On top of that we get an update with much less renders in the same amount of time as the previous one, and now the so claimed "minutes long animations" turned out to be just a couple second loops each. You've seen the animation trailer, yes? You've seen and read all his statements, yes?
 
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I remember the good old days when a developer could do around 200 to 300 pics a month. I'll give L&P a small discount for quality of pics but still..... absolutely woeful output. if there is a helper doing the animations he could have spent his time better knocking over another scene of fleshing out the existing scenes. either way. excuses excuses.
 
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There is another game that is making this kind of animations, Freshwomen, and they selected their newest animator out of 40 people, you don't make animations like that overnight. The difference is that Freshwomen is been made by 7 people. That's where we need to criticize L&P, his lack of team.
Sure but that doesn't really address the point we're talking about. I think there's evidence on both sides of the argument, and I don't know where I come down on the issue. It does seem hard to believe that L&P is doing the animations himself because he had no experience a few months ago. But it also seems equally hard to believe that an assistant would come in and NOT be given credit for their work.
 
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I really expected a huge update after the long development time. This is a disservice to all the fans and patreons. Hope he realises that. If not, this is not going to end well for him, seeing how very few people are impressed with his release on patreon. 16 likes, yikes!
This has been standard for a while lol. When he changed the updates to be a third of a day to be faster, but then the updates still took the same amount of time i saw the writing on the wall lol.

The animations were unnecessary, the scenes were good, but again it looks like the L&P is striving for perfection, over getting things out on time. Its one thing if this took a month, but how long did we wait again?

I patreoned once, and i wont be doing again until the game is nearing completion. By that time, i might finally be able to buy a house in the GTA lol.
 

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I will gladly apologize for some of my statements if we ever find out that L&P actually has hired someone to create animations for him. But where is this person? Not mentioned in the credits, not mentioned on Patreon, not mentioned on F95 and L&P entirely ignores questions regarding this person on F95 and Patreon. Guess why?
We all seen his attitude towards criticism. That is not a guy who would give credit to the person who assisted his work. He'd rather keep them in the shadows it seems. Atleast an alias, a name to address them would've been nice. For the time being imma just call them "the master behind the curtain", it's a tad bit longer ey? MBC will do fine then.
 

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I personally do not believe an animator was hired to do the animations. I do believe that L&P could learn what’s needed to create those animations in Blender in a couple of months. That’s part (most?) of the reason I’m not completely down on them. It’s R&D and pretty encouraging results for a first attempt.

If he was going to add animations he had to start somewhere, and I think there is some wisdom in choosing side characters like Jennifer and Andre. He is getting a lot of feedback, and if he has the patience to wade through it all, I think he will glean some useful information. For example, I’ve not read a single comment that identifies technical problems with clipping, the lighting, the resolution, the detail, the poses, the movements, or the facial expressions. I guess one comment about Aiden’s scrotum.
 

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I will gladly apologize for some of my statements if we ever find out that L&P actually has hired someone to create animations for him...
But it also seems equally hard to believe that an assistant would come in and NOT be given credit for their work...
That is not a guy who would give credit to the person who assisted his work...
I personally do not believe an animator was hired to do the animations. I do believe that L&P could learn what’s needed to create those animations in Blender in a couple of months...
If he was lying about hiring an animator, he could easily have lied writing a fake name in the credits too. In this industry many people prefer remaining anonymous.
 
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I think what is intriguing me is the sheer amount of people that are missing chunks of the update like the Morello event but are trying to obtain it.

I mean, I get that since I don't play the tasks or even the Dylan route, that this was a waste of a download, but I was curious, so I did it anyway, and that's on me. But I don't know if that can be said for the numerous others that are asking "Is that all?"
Its just shocking to me that there are not alternate paths that take you to the content. Like with Don Morello, something else should have happened to get you the option to do something with him again. Like for example if you send Dylan to boarding school, no more Aiden, thus no more Morello. Now if those conditions are met the husband does some dumb shit that forces them back to Morello, which the same implication being presented.

Im just spitballing here but there should be alternate ways to get to the content. Like the lesbian path has no content here, and same with the good wife path right?
 
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I really expected a huge update after the long development time. This is a disservice to all the fans and patreons. Hope he realises that. If not, this is not going to end well for him, seeing how very few people are impressed with his release on patreon. 16 likes, yikes!
Can people not get refunds on pateron?
This has been standard for a while lol. When he changed the updates to be a third of a day to be faster, but then the updates still took the same amount of time i saw the writing on the wall lol.

The animations were unnecessary, the scenes were good, but again it looks like the L&P is striving for perfection, over getting things out on time. Its one thing if this took a month, but how long did we wait again?

I patreoned once, and i wont be doing again until the game is nearing completion. By that time, i might finally be able to buy a house in the GTA lol.
At this rate gta 6 will release before sophia has sex in the game.
 
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I personally do not believe an animator was hired to do the animations. I do believe that L&P could learn what’s needed to create those animations in Blender in a couple of months. That’s part (most?) of the reason I’m not completely down on them. It’s R&D and pretty encouraging results for a first attempt.

If he was going to add animations he had to start somewhere, and I think there is some wisdom in choosing side characters like Jennifer and Andre. He is getting a lot of feedback, and if he has the patience to wade through it all, I think he will glean some useful information. For example, I’ve not read a single comment that identifies technical problems with clipping, the lighting, the resolution, the detail, the poses, the movements, or the facial expressions. I guess one comment about Aiden’s scrotum.
Yup, that was me! hehe

The scrotum looked weird, and Jennifer's lips weren't perfect at times too. Other than those, I can't think of anything else.

and Aiden's image looked static when the animations were afoot. They could've showed simple body movements, like scratching his butt, or his head, or taking out boogers!
 

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This has been standard for a while lol. When he changed the updates to be a third of a day to be faster, but then the updates still took the same amount of time i saw the writing on the wall lol.

The animations were unnecessary, the scenes were good, but again it looks like the L&P is striving for perfection, over getting things out on time. Its one thing if this took a month, but how long did we wait again?

I patreoned once, and i wont be doing again until the game is nearing completion. By that time, i might finally be able to buy a house in the GTA lol.
This time people have really showed their displeasure. On Patreon and F95. If this doesn't make him realise he's on the wrong path, I don't know what will.
 
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While trying to run part 2, I ran into this error just after the title screen after loading the save from the previous game. Anybody with an idea what the issue is?

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A Wife and Mother [Part 1 / v0.150] [Compressed]

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For example, I’ve not read a single comment that identifies technical problems with clipping, the lighting, the resolution, the detail, the poses, the movements, or the facial expressions. I guess one comment about Aiden’s scrotum.
When it takes over 5 months for a a single 1/3 update I would expect it all to be perfect. When he's getting 8kish a month, and makes only on average 3 images a day. I would really hope he makes those 3 images perfect.

I mean look at this way, let's say he continues to take his time, this game started in 2017 when Genesis 8 models came out, we're already at Gen 8.1, who knows when gen 9 models are going to come out. I don't care how good his images are when 5 months from now these are considered the worn out models, that everyone uses. Not even comparing it to the newer games with newer models that will continue to be pushed out. when he's still doing day 20 part 3 10 months from now.
 
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