L&P pausing Patreon billing as the best Devs sometimes do. Could this be the first positive step in a better way of relating to his fans, his financially contributing ones at least? I hope so [& for a good result medically]. There are so many aspects of the whole AWAM 'experience' which could be improved with a small effort.
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"What does it take? What does it take to change the essence of a man"? ~~ Steven Seagal ~~ On Dangerous Ground
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Well, as we have seen, for the first time in the development of AWAM, some of the most longtime patrons of L&P were truly pissed off with the update, Developers behaviour and development speed, cancelling their support or seriously thinking about it. And they were not the only ones. Even a person as egocentric as L&P recognises now that he has to change some things, because if he goes on like before, he will have a revolution among his patrons sooner than later.
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As a famous lady once said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"
"Let them eat cake"
The way the situation is for Sophia after the 4th task, she can no longer believe that she can control Aiden and Andre. She must fear for her physical integrity. She knows that if she completes the 12 tasks, she will no longer be able to work at school and may not be able to practice her profession at all. She has no help, she is all alone. And the event with Jennifer has shown her her future. If at the beginning she still thought she could protect herself and Dylan, control the situation (see the conversation with Alyssa), this drop is now sucked.
Morello, on the other hand, seems to be someone she can deal with, someone she can handle. He has kept his word. He threatened her family, offered a deal, and after it was fulfilled to his satisfaction, withdrew the threat. From Sophia's current perspective, Morello must be the better choice!
Sophia is currently the cat on the hot tin roof. And she is trying everything to stay on top.
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Morello is the lesser of two evils.
All Sophia and Liam know about Morello is from the media and we all know how truthful they can be at times.
Morello has so far been a complete gentleman towards Sophia and has given Sophia no first hand experience to fear him unlike Aiden.
Since this will not be another blackmail story I look forward to finding out where Sophia's and Morello's travels/adventures take them.
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I don't know. Aiden is a teenage wannabe gangster with an influential lawyer uncle. That's pretty much it. He's a small fish compared to Morello (still an understatement), who is an actual mobster. And not just any mobster, he's the boss of whatever family. It might look like Morello is the lesser evil as of now, but what if she fails to please him? So far he's been a gentlemen, but that's only facade. He's a real criminal unlike Aiden, who's just a stupid kid. There's a good reason why Morello can apparently easily solve Sophia's problems with Aiden. Wouldn't be possible the other way around. Sophia couldn't talk to Morello the way she talks to Aiden at times, because that would likely have much more severe consequences than what Aiden could do. Bullying her son and his friends isn't really something to be scared of. Having a mobster knocking on your door on the other hand is something you really don't want to happen.
Just my 2 cents.
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Guys, I’m pretty sure this was a post from DarkBlue, developer of Hillside.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-160-lust-passion.5944/post-7933684
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So far Morello has given Sophia no reason to fear him unlike Aiden but yes it could get nasty but would Morello go against his brother since he made Sophia his cum mare so she is basically family now.
If what Morello says is true and he holds loyalty/trust/family very high then it is going to be an interesting to see how Morello will change Sophia's opinion of hm.
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You do realize that creates a lot more renders: slutty vs not-slutty outfit, scene has to be rendered twice.
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It is from dark Blue and it was just to show the different attitudes that Dark blue and L&P have as I cannot ever see L&P pausing payments no matter what happens
I see it as a manipulation, this time he made his patreonstoo angry and is using the sick letter to make them feel sorry for him and thus overlook the abuse he commits against his own patreons, Trump and Boris johnson did the same when their popularity dropped.
Will be good to see the comments in the update post to see the general opinion of people
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Folks not reading very carefully I guess. Hillside is really good, and DB is a really amiable developer.
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I see your point, but I don't know if Sophia is there yet because I think it's very dependent on your choices. Throughout the update she pushes back more than ever against Aiden, including slapping Andre and verbally sparring with Aiden. If you don't fullfill the tasks completely, she shows even more spine. But really the main thing is if you choose to save Jennifer. If you chose to do so, Sophia strongly puts her foot down that she's the teacher and still has some level of authority over her students.
So the way I see it, the situation is coming a head and the current power dynamic cannot stand. Either Sophia establishes her authority (and thus ends the agreement), or Aiden gains control and begins to break her down. In my playthrough Sophia showed a great deal of independence and there's no way Aiden can think that he has full control of the situation. So that's what I expect to see from the next scene with them, Aiden is going to have to do something to really get his claws into Sophia because his current leverage isn't going to be enough to hold her much longer.
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the premise of this game is the dev wanna it to fulfill everyone's desires as much as possible. That's why we have many routes, from good wife, les, incest, to romantic with son's friend. And with aiden route, of course we will have rape route where sophia may become a whore. There is such nothing ruining the story, because the dev stir every tags in the game, and we the players decide how it's gonna go. Also, every path game contain many tags. In a nutshell, i think all of the routes are not mutually exclusive but yeah we have 4 focal route: dylan route(for incest), sam(for romantic), some female(idk who is the most important female in the game beside sophia, yet there must be one for lesbian) and aiden(for blackmail, rape)
"So, **potentially** the visit may have different outcomes"Let's try to unpack what happened in 0.155, which at the moment has more impact on the whole story.
Aiden's 4th Task
- In the first teaser in front of the mirror we have been told that "She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work." In the end it was just a matter of fixing the shirt so that less cleavage was exposed. Well not much difference IMO..
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And the long debated question about going to school with or without the bra found his answer in Sophia forgetting about that part of the deal out of habit and going with it.
- The most interesting aspect IMO is how the 3 different outcomes from the previous 3rd task[1] played out in this one.
- If she went full filthy during the task (
day19_Sophia_accepts_Ares_breast_groper) then:
- there is an initial discussion when she goes out in the corridor with Aiden where the issue of him groping her is addressed. It is explained that Aiden payed the other model to leave (unbeknownst of Xavier) and he also financed the whole thing. And obviously Sophia shows all her disgust and anger for what happened.
- only under this condition Sophia has the choice to let them watch while she takes the bra off. Which can make sense as choice as it fits the higher filth level she reached by letting Ares grope her.
- Only if she exposed her breast during the art class (
day19_Sophia_exposed_her_breast_art_class) she has the choice of fulfilling the task, otherwise she won't at all. Again, this makes sense according to the past actions (i.e. if she didn't find the courage to do it during the art class "protected" by the mask, it would be difficult to believe she does it in front of the class.)
- These choices *may* reveal the direction of the Aiden's tasks. As I said in another post, I felt that the Aiden's path has taken a dark turn (task + bonus scene) and probably this **could** lead to a very dark path of corruption and submission for Sophia. For what Aiden **seems to imply** in the dialogue that he wants the students to "own" the teacher and do anything to her as they like, the story can very well turn like any other porn teacher-students trope. I dunno if it is the case, it's just a vibe of mine and honestly I won't like it.
In any case I think it is clear that the choices used in this task let imagine that with highly corrupted Sophia things will be pushed farther (in the classroom and out-of-school). I mean, the way the flashings were played out is revealing about how much farther she may go in the next tasks.
(and obviously, the story has to progress and we could only expect that things gets lewder and lewder, it's just that the vibe I get, which could be wrong, is more towards a "classic" porn VN rather that the more erotic nuance that made this VN stand out)
- If I'm not wrong, this is the first event that *highly* depends on the previous choices made in another event. And it is a good example of how things can escalate in complexity when multiple choices/outcomes are presented and must be dealt with. I tried to make a (simple?
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- Between the task and the bonus scene, the anger and contempt of Sophia towards Aiden &C is more clear than ever and even if she has to submit to the request she still has the force to fight back (with words and with a well deserved slap! Can we say she Will Smith-ed him?
This time she was not aroused by the task but rather by the situation and the interaction with Zac in 2 occasions, just after she gets groped by him
and after the discussion with Zac at the end of class (which happens only if (i) she let him stay in the tanning room and (ii) massage her during Alyssa's event, i.e.Python:st "Well, I basically invited him to knead my breast after all!" st "And he was completely overwhelmed by the situation." "The situation was so embarrassing but she still became heated." "As she was walking, she felt the moisture between her legs." st "What the hell? I can't believe that I actually got aroused by that!" if day18_Sophia_saw_Zac_naked: "There was also something so tingly about the situation, too. And she couldn't help but think of Zac's cock, which she only got to see in it's full glory two days ago. "zac_price >= 2)
this obviously opens up the path with Zac in the future and once more it could be a sign of the corruption she will be experiencing going down the Aiden path.Python:st "God, I can't believe I let Zac see my breasts! What the hell am I doing here? Where's this going to end up?" st "Maybe I should finally look for other options!" st "But..." st "Somehow, this shit was kinda exciting! Once again, I can't believe it!" st "One of my students blackmailing and humiliating me turned out to be an exciting experience?! What the heck?!" if zac_price >= 2: st "I don't know why, but somehow, I don't regret that Zac got a peek at my boobs." st "Just like with his mom, I feel a certain bond with him." st "He's probably the only student in the class I'd feel that way about after such an incident!"
- On a more frivolous note, whether it is a coincidence or not, Sophia's bag appeared in the event: difficult to tell, but it seems that L&P reads the forum more than we think and put the answers of our debates in the game. Another example, Sophia requisitioning the phones as it has been discussed here. Or even some inside jokes like the pigeon and the rat in the diner conversation.
Bonus Event
- Sorry if I'm a broken record on this, but it still puzzles me why L&P censured that teaser!
- Story-wise, this event brought a better understanding or confirmation of the dangerousness of Aiden and Andre, seemingly not just some stupid teenagers pretending to play gangsters as we maybe underestimated before. The proof is in Jennifer's character who now we understand not being his "girlfriend" by choice but yet another case of Aiden's extortion game.
- And sure enough another bunch of potential branches for the future. From the fact that the bonus event can happen no matter the choices related to the task, but still a choice for the reader to make, to the option to intervene or not to stop the scene. For now we know that Sophia can ask Morello to also "free" Jennifer if she intervene to stop the scene. We will see what other ramifications that could have in the future.
Morello
- We were wondering under which conditions Sophia will ask for help. As expected, the necessary condition is for Sophia to have at least exposed her breasts (
larry >=9), which enablesday19_Sophia_contemplates_asking_Morello_for_help_with_Aiden. Then it actually does not matter whether she fulfill the task or not, she has the option no matter what happens in the classroom.
- We were wondering about the "quid pro quo" that Morello might propose, we got the "I would like you to do us a favor, though" situation
So yes, getting rid of Aiden might come at a cost in the future.
- Again on a frivolous note, the "bra mystery" is still unsolved I think. As in the teaser, she is wearing one during the meeting but it's not mention anywhere that she put it back on (if she removed it). When she is leaving school and met Jennifer, it does not seem she is wearing it again.
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And in the car it's cleverly occluded by the arm, damn it!
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Anyways, this is just a silly and very minor aspect that had some debate because every detail counts when speculating: it's not necessary that it is written to imagine that at some point she recompose herself before going to Morello.
- The meeting for the 5th task. Those two-three lines at the end have a lot to unpack.
- Many of us noted that the dress she is ready to wear to meet Aiden is cute but not really the type you want to wear when meeting such a sleazebag, especially after what she might have witnessed during the bonus scene.
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It's strange because Aiden doesn't ask for it, he only imposed the dress code for school. In a way this could be coherent with the corruption level achieved after the 4th task, with Sophia becoming less and less inhibited and accustomed to the wicked game.
- The other important thing about the meeting that I almost missed is that it will take place (in the next update??) no matter the Morello's decision. And Morello told her he will send his men to visit Aiden later. So, **potentially** the visit may have different outcomes, among which Morello's chivalry barging in and maybe "saving" Sophia from another humiliating demand.
- Which leads to the question whether the meeting is solely to give her the assignment to be done at a different time (the next day, the next class etc) or the whole task will take place. It's strange to ask her for a meeting just to give the assignment instead of the usual call/sms. It could be a task to do in place, with a lot of possibilities for depraved requests, or elsewhere/another time-frame.
The 5th task is not listed among the events of this PD, it could be that the visit is just a short event for the assignment (i.e. not worth it to be listed) or he didn't want to spoil it. This makes the next update more interesting.
[1] Once she accepts to meet with Aiden, the task is automatically fulfilled.
On the other hand depending on the choices during the art class there are 3 different paths:
1) she refuses to dress as Aphrodite, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and no Ares/Aiden at all.
2) if she stop Ares from groping her, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and Aiden won't reveal Ares was him.
3) if she has wine and allows Ares, she will look at the paintings at the end and Aiden reveals he was Ares.
I think you are correct with that statement, because some have morello in their route, and some dont
have morello in any of our routes. so it only make sense that there has to be more than one out come
at the next meeting with aiden
i could be wrong but from my understanding the "tags" can only be put up only after that type
of scene as been add to the VN.
which is why some devs add a "future tags planned"
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