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From the Randy / Luis saga: Luis got ratioed on his own page so he posts a teaser so everyone moves on from those comments.
Randy posts again on the first teaser. Does Luis answer? No. He just posts another teaser for everyone to move on and not read it. He can't answer these questions.
Keeps running away.
edit: speaking of the devil, randy just posted again on the new teaser, the same message.
What will come first? A new teaser or a deleted comment?
"If you don't have an answer to this, you can just say it."
Randy posts again on the first teaser. Does Luis answer? No. He just posts another teaser for everyone to move on and not read it. He can't answer these questions.
Keeps running away.
edit: speaking of the devil, randy just posted again on the new teaser, the same message.
What will come first? A new teaser or a deleted comment?
"If you don't have an answer to this, you can just say it."
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I'm curious about the comparison to Free Pass that this Paul P is making, since Free Pass is one of the games I financially support and have since it was in its early stages when I started to lose interest in this one.From the Randy / Luis saga: Luis got ratioed on his own page so he posts a teaser so everyone moves on from those comments.
Randy posts again on the first teaser. Does Luis answer? No. He just posts another teaser for everyone to move on and not read it. He can't answer these questions.
Keeps running away.
edit: speaking of the devil, randy just posted again on the new teaser, the same message.
What will come first? A new teaser or a deleted comment?
"If you don't have an answer to this, you can just say it."
Especially since in Free Pass when that dev went back and "changed the story", first it was to add a male MC, smooth out the plot and update the graphics. But adding the male MC ruined the game for a lot of her supporters, and the backlash was so great that she was pretty much forced to remove him (about 90% voted to remove him last I checked).
Funnily enough the male MC really was your standard VN protagonist - the brother of the wife (so a little different than son of the MILF), didn't even have a name, and was only there to placate the self-insert incest fans that would drop into the thread here just to say "no male protagonist? hard pass". Didn't even put in the effort to save him when the option to remove him was put to a vote.
I guess my point is that it appears that my warning from a while back about there being newer games with devs that appreciate their supporters is starting to gain traction, and that L&P's insistence on alienating supporters like Randy and potential supporters like me is really going to start making more of us look elsewhere.
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Randy is a real one.From the Randy / Luis saga: Luis got ratioed on his own page so he posts a teaser so everyone moves on from those comments.
Randy posts again on the first teaser. Does Luis answer? No. He just posts another teaser for everyone to move on and not read it. He can't answer these questions.
Keeps running away.
edit: speaking of the devil, randy just posted again on the new teaser, the same message.
What will come first? A new teaser or a deleted comment?
"If you don't have an answer to this, you can just say it."
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I guess that explains why he has such a dedicated following. Most people who play this game also play other games here. They are used to seeing such a character being able to get any girl he wants with his "charm".
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I agree but I like it more than what the Aiden route seems like it will lead to.
Not to say I dislike the Aiden route, it had me very intrigued till the last event where I see it will be nothing but a humiliation esc route (I was fine with the blackmail but didn't like how it was with Aidens gf) which I don't care much for. I'd rather it been kept between just Aiden, Andre, and Sophia.
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Hi friends im sam fan and i have a small doubt...?
Everybody telling that sam tricks sophia everytime with wine...but while sophia relaxing in pool sam comes and tells her about his dream and ask her as a lover in parallel life.. And she says ofcourse yes...
And she likes his dream very much .. But in this scene sam not given any wine to sophia......? Am i correct friends..?
Everybody telling that sam tricks sophia everytime with wine...but while sophia relaxing in pool sam comes and tells her about his dream and ask her as a lover in parallel life.. And she says ofcourse yes...
And she likes his dream very much .. But in this scene sam not given any wine to sophia......? Am i correct friends..?
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There is no wine in the scene, what is there is Sam trying to gain sympathy. Read the dialogues, you'll see yourself. He also admits in same scene that he also has similiar dreams for Ellie. And that is when Sophia says that this is just a phase of his. Sophia admitting to being in a hypothetical relationship can be attributed to her liking Sam but also to her being good natured, she sees no harm in admitting that because that would make Sam happy as throughout scene he shows that he is very troubled and is having difficult nights with his dreams and that he "wets" his bed because of it, though Sophia says Amber must know exactly what it is.
Sophia wants to cheer him up and make him feel better. A common theme throughout all storylines of Sophia. She is selfless and mostly says things that will make others happy.
It's up to you decide how tricky or not Sam has been.
One could just as easily say Sophia is the one manipulating him. She is the adult here, not Sam. Actually the idea of a woman as mature and refined as Sophia, being manipulated by a teenage boy is rather laughable.
Sam is a teenager with raging hormones. Yet Sophia offers him a drink, kisses him, flaunts her body on several occasions, asks if he masturbates thinking about her, and teases him by exposing herself and showing partial nippleage.
She's done a pretty thorough job of leading him on.
It takes two to tango and both of them have been willing participants.
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I ignored it before but you have written it again. So i have to correct it. Sophia didn't offer any alcohol to Sam. Sam is the one who asked Sophia to introduce the bottle and that they should drink. He was the one continuously coming up with solutions to all concerns raised by Sophia against him drinking, now what can Sophia even say after he says that he allowed to drink wine at home sometimes and just to leave no room for doubt here is the dialogue. Sam is the one bringing up the wine.
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Sophia only reveals her areolas to him when she is drunk, and that too because Sam who was asked to bring a casual soft drink decides it is better to bring her alcohol.
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Dude - now I must correct you.
Sophia brought the bottle not Sam. She could have refused Sam a drink. It seems like the wine made both of them bolder and act on their inner desires.
You say Sam is manipulating Sophia. But is she the one manipulating him? Or does she enjoy being manipulated?
There's culpability to share between the two of them. Neither party is blameless.
You give too much credit to Sam and too little blame to Sophia - who is, again I repeat, the ADULT here.
Sophia brought the bottle not Sam. She could have refused Sam a drink. It seems like the wine made both of them bolder and act on their inner desires.
You say Sam is manipulating Sophia. But is she the one manipulating him? Or does she enjoy being manipulated?
There's culpability to share between the two of them. Neither party is blameless.
You give too much credit to Sam and too little blame to Sophia - who is, again I repeat, the ADULT here.
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I thought it would be common sense but fine. I'll even spell that out. Sophia brought the wine for HERSELF because she was going to be ALONE in the Jaccuzi before Sam who for some reason knew exactly that Sophia was going to be in the Jaccuzi already with his shirt off even before looking up the wall or receiving Sophia's permission to join her in the Jaccuzi. Suspicious don't you think.Dude - now I must correct you.
Sophia brought the bottle not Sam. She could have refused Sam a drink.
You say Sam is manipulating Sophia. But is she the one manipulating him? Or does she enjoy being manipulated?
There's culpability to share between the two of them. Neither party is blameless.
Sophia has already brought the bottle but since Sam joined she refused to drink from it. But Sam was persistent about drinking wine and kept giving reasons as to why Sophia should let him drink. It was Sam's big night and since he was allowed to drink at home Sophia can't say much against that. Even after Sam giving all reasons as to why he should be allowed to drink if Sophia refuses it will not only go against all the buildup of the storyline and how Sophia thinks he is nice boy but also make Sophia look like a cheapskate who refuses to share her wine with anyone even though she is so rich and has no logical reason to refuse Sam. This is common sense behaviour.
Regarding your point of Sophia manipulating. Read the entire story friend. Sophia manipulates no one. That is not her character. She is the same with every character she meets in the novel. Her basic values consistent in all routes. This is more than enough evidence of her having nothing to do with manipulation. She only wishes to do what's best for other characters and try to be helpful selflessly.
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To be honest, i've ignored every route except for lesbian, incest or shota, so can't say much about Aiden route.
All you've spelled out is you have a very blindered view that puts Sophia on a pedestal.
And, oh yeah...
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I have never put Sophia on a pedestal. Infact i am the one who recently posted long messages of how people here consider Sophia innocent and blame everyone else for taking advantage of Sophia, however Sophia herself enjoys it. I went into detail explaining numerous scenes from the game where Sophia is clearly enjoying all this and hence allows others to easily convince her.
Here's that post - https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8885245
Even in my initial message today which started this discussion from you i said that part of the reason Sophia accepts Sam's hypothetical "can we be together in some world" is because she also likes Sam, but that is thing, she enjoys herself with every character, heck she even enjoys Aiden's tasks. So this is nothing special in the Sam route. She is turned on and is doing more sexual things with everyone.
What i said was wrong in your post is that Sophia manipulates others, which she does not and second you said she gave Alcohol to Sam when infact it was Sam that insisted that they drink together.
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If you click on the posted render you will see the text-Day20_9_90_Sophia_thinks_about_nipple_tapes-lines-scale-1_00x.jpeg
Did you even look at the picture I posted? She's TOTALLY manipulating Sam in that scene.
As to the alcohol - Sam insists!?!? Give me a break! Who's the adult in that scene? If Sophia lets herself get pushed around by a boy then how could anyone like her?
She manipulates Sam. You're in denial and wearing Sophia blinders.
But hey! If that's the way you need to operate to enjoy the game, that's your wagon to pull.
We'll agree to disagree and go off enjoy the game the way we prefer to enjoy it.