palmtrees89

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9) In the end of the game there will be a branch where Sophia will not go well. Presumably Liam will learn of his wife's betrayal. Will a possible reunion between them be possible?

Well, there will be bad and good endgins. Many things will be possible. It's probably the most complex VN as for story branches on the market.
There will be zero endings. The delusions are strong with this one. I mean, obviously L&P won't admit that he's not going to work on his project in 30+ years from now, but goddamn. Anyway, calling AWAM the most complex VN for story branches in the market is laughable. What he calls branching is simply cutting out big portions of the story, which is why many playthroughs end with a "to be continued" screen after one or two renders per update. Yeah, very complex indeed. Eww... Just yet another comment of L&P showcasing on why he's one of the most cocky and hated characters in the world of VN gaming.
 

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There will be zero endings. The delusions are strong with this one. I mean, obviously L&P won't admit that he's not going to work on his project in 30+ years from now, but goddamn. Anyway, calling AWAM the most complex VN for story branches in the market is laughable. What he calls branching is simply cutting out big portions of the story, which is why many playthroughs end with a "to be continued" screen after one or two renders per update. Yeah, very complex indeed. Eww... Just yet another comment of L&P showcasing on why he's one of the most cocky and hated characters in the world of VN gaming.
I'm afraid you are right my friend.
 

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consider that lp is in the top of the best developers in terms of complying (not necessarily on time but within an acceptable margin) with the delivery of high quality products.

Compared to various artists in the environment, he is one of those who complies and does not become milk cows with the public
 

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consider that lp is in the top of the best developers in terms of complying (not necessarily on time but within an acceptable margin) with the delivery of high quality products.

Compared to various artists in the environment, he is one of those who complies and does not become milk cows with the public
I have to disagree with you on this.

He does provide small, typically high-quality, updates about every 3-4 months, but this has effectively doomed AWAM to abandonment due to the decades it will take for AWAM to be completed through PD 30 at this pace.

He is already working on a remaster of the early part of AWAM 'in his free time' and he will have to create other remasters in the future due to the glacial pace at which AWAM is being created.

His refusal to build a team to share the load and increase the pace of the development is also on display with each new release.

He's not pulling an ICSTOR with Milfy CIty - but development is proceeding at a snail's pace, and he has offered no reasonable explanation on how this will improve over time (and to do this, he would have to demonstrate that development speed has materially increased -- this has yet to happen).
 
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There will be zero endings. The delusions are strong with this one. I mean, obviously L&P won't admit that he's not going to work on his project in 30+ years from now, but goddamn. Anyway, calling AWAM the most complex VN for story branches in the market is laughable. What he calls branching is simply cutting out big portions of the story, which is why many playthroughs end with a "to be continued" screen after one or two renders per update. Yeah, very complex indeed. Eww... Just yet another comment of L&P showcasing on why he's one of the most cocky and hated characters in the world of VN gaming.
AWAM is one of the most complex stories on the market. Don't know about "The most" but definitely in the top 5. Your point on "To be continued" is a byproduct of the complexity, as it's pretty much impossible to develop all the routes at once.

Sophia's routes. Good Wife, Filthy, Lesbian + all the LI's and often branches involving the LI's. Like Aiden's tasks, Morello etc.
Dylan's routes. Boarding school. His unknown "cuck" stat, his own LI's.
Ellie's routes. Her BF, her friends, maybe Sam etc.
 

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AWAM is one of the most complex stories on the market. Don't know about "The most" but definitely in the top 5. Your point on "To be continued" is a byproduct of the complexity, as it's pretty much impossible to develop all the routes at once.

Sophia's routes. Good Wife, Filthy, Lesbian + all the LI's and often branches involving the LI's. Like Aiden's tasks, Morello etc.
Dylan's routes. Boarding school. His unknown "cuck" stat, his own LI's.
Ellie's routes. Her BF, her friends, maybe Sam etc.
Free Pass is my favourite example of how events can be tailored to suit various tastes, incredibly seamlessly (so not "pretty much impossible"). A few simple choices at the start of the game, determines whether or not the MC and her friend's sons join the women at the sauna. Or whether or not the MC fucks the trans character after a video recording.

I still only play around the same percentage of the game as I do here (well, a little more), but Free Pass has the advantage in that I've never had just a few renders then "to be continued". And an update released around once a month, if not faster.

The Yoga event is a pretty good example of how this game could be designed better. Within the one event there was both hetero and lesbian content. v.115 was also a great update in that it delivered content for the lesbian, straight and GW routes.

Which is my main gripe with this game. L&P has shown he can deliver timely updates with content for all players. He just chooses not to.
 

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JOHN has had my eye for awhile now and to be honest I feel like the last AWAM update overshadowed the last JOHN update even though in JOHN the scene went to a higher level if I remember correctly.
Oh god, let's not bring JOHN into this conversation. JOHN's development may be an even bigger clusterfuck than AWAM's. It's all so frustrating because JOHN literally got it's start in response to frustration over AWAM's development.
 

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i never said that. zoey takes care of patricias horses.
"Takes Care"

Mob; fix a problem, usually ends in a death.
Porn; screw the problem, usually ends in creampie.
Local municipality; charge the problem a large fee, usually ends in lawsuit.
Electric, water and gas utility; disconnect the service to the problem, usually ends in a large fee.
Gang; drive by the problem and shoot at it, usually ends in a death.

So as you can see "takes care" of ______ can have a lot of meanings.
 
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consider that lp is in the top of the best developers in terms of complying (not necessarily on time but within an acceptable margin) with the delivery of high quality products.

Compared to various artists in the environment, he is one of those who complies and does not become milk cows with the public
l and p it the greatest milker
 
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3. What is Sophia's maiden name?
Unknown for now.
34) Do you know Sophia's maiden name?
Ferdinand
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I have the distinct feeling that both the form and substance of L&P's replies to anyone interested in the plot developments of his game seem more and more inspired by magic 8-ball logic.
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The answer to the question about Sophia's maiden name, on the other hand, reminds me a lot of the film .
I think L&P was probably listening to something by Franz Ferdinand when he answered this question.
Anyway, as for Sophia's maiden name, we will almost certainly know when her parents arrive from their holiday in New Zealand on Tuesday (PD17 - Day 24: in about 4-5 years' time).
 

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yeah despite all the grudges we hold against lp, we have to agree upon the fact his game is the best on the market now. Even great games like manofhouse, milfcity, beingadik, desires still cant compare to awam
I don't agree with your supposition on this.

You certainly have a right to your opinion but there are, for me, multiple AVN's that are better than AWAM.

I'll give two brief examples:

Chasing Sunsets - up to rev 0.7 right now and likely to be completed within the next 15 - 21 months (versus 2+ decades for AWAM)
It has great renders, better music, an intriguing story, some fantastic humor

Summers Gone - great story, some of the best music in any AVN, top quality renders and animations.

I like AWAM - don't get me wrong - and I am intrigued by the journey of Sophia as well as the journeys of Ellie and Dylan.

However, L&P is a very inflexible creator who has a great 'product' that he insists on doling out a small dollop of story every 3-4 months.

This is his choice, but for supporters like me, I will eventually give up on any $ support and limit my hopes only to some great discussion on F95.

We will have more and better discussions than the dialogues that will be found in AWAM because we will, in part, have 20+ more years to create those discussions and we are, in many ways, a better team in the way we interact than anything L&P has shown us.

One of my favorite recent scenes was the Dylan Amber scene.

This was a great scene, both well-written and well-rendered.

4+ months later, that is all it is.

There is No immersion

There is no true sense that a story is being told.

There is only the sense of being given a series of vignettes - short scenes about characters that we enjoy, but whose story we will never see in full.

If you have to wait years to see a favorite major character appear in a scene, then - Boom, they have their scene or several scenes, then they are gone for more years RL, there is No immersion and in time, I see other entertainment displacing AWAM because AWAM cannot maintain its entertainment value.

You can disagree or tell us that your standard rewards those small vignettes over other stories that are better told, using equal or better renders and animations, quality music and sound effects along with immersion which I actually value in any entertainment experience.

You have every right to your opinion, and I just chose to share why I disagree versus simply using a thumbs down emote - this post is part of those genuine discussions I spoke of earlier.
 
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