tofhdns

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It amazes that these people moaning about consensual 'incest' sex are bothered by the morality of it, but are OK with non-consensual sex (rape, etc).

Trying to figure out whose morality is worse.
I hope this isn't about me.
But I don't remember seeing a post with this kind of content.

What I am saying is not that incest is bad or good. (within the game)

Someone said that the scene where a mother and son kiss or the son sucks his mother's breast is incest, and I just said that that scene is not incest.

I have never denied that I am on this forum to enjoy porn games.
Also I said I wanted a penetrative sex scene.
 
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TomUK

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I hope this isn't about me.
But I don't remember seeing a post with this kind of content.
Not you specifically, just in general, on this thread and other game threads that have incest in them, in some countries incest is legal, including in France if you're over the age of 18 I believe or no more than 3 years older than the relative. Even in the UK incest stops at 1st cousins, 2nd cousins onwards it's allowed.
 

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Not you specifically, just in general, on this thread and other game threads that have incest in them, in some countries incest is legal, including in France if you're over the age of 18 I believe or no more than 3 years older than the relative. Even in the UK incest stops at 1st cousins, 2nd cousins onwards it's allowed.
I'm not saying whether it's legal or illegal, and I'm not saying whether it's moral or immoral.
I said obviously I wasn't saying whether it was good or bad.

Find someone else.
 

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Not you specifically, just in general, on this thread and other game threads that have incest in them, in some countries incest is legal, including in France if you're over the age of 18 I believe or no more than 3 years older than the relative. Even in the UK incest stops at 1st cousins, 2nd cousins onwards it's allowed.
Incorrect.



" Here in Britain it’s actually perfectly legal for first cousins to marry. "
 

DarthSpitz717

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Are you bored?
I don't feel it's worth talking about.

I don't care about Bill Clinton.

I thought he was asking, “Has Sophia had sex with anyone other than her husband?” and I said, “Not yet.”

Do we need to discuss this?

If you want to say "he may have meant a different character" or "he may have meant sex differently" or "Sofia had sex with her husband", then you right.
ok?
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Are you bored?
Yes, I am. Its rainy and cold out.

I don't feel it's worth talking about. My post was dealing with the progression of the story.

I thought he was asking, “Has Sophia had sex with anyone other than her husband?” and I said, “Not yet.”
Yes, and we all knew what he was referring to.
Do we need to discuss this?
If you want to, sure. Love to hear your thoughts.
If you want to say "he may have meant a different character" or "he may have meant sex differently" or "Sofia had sex with her husband", then you right.
ok?
Goes back to the original question, but that does preclude Sophia having lesbian sex with the girl next door and the maid.
I don't feel it's worth talking about.
Was hoping to start a dialogue on the corruption status of the MC.
I don't care about Bill Clinton.
T'was a joke bringing up Clinton since its infamously stupid statement he made. No reason why these post can't have a little humor.
I thought he was asking, “Has Sophia had sex with anyone other than her husband?” and I said, “Not yet.”
Yes, context kind of gave it away.
Do we need to discuss this?
We don't have too. Or if you wish we can discuss the new findings of the James Webb Telescope.
If you want to say "he may have meant a different character" or "he may have meant sex differently" or "Sofia had sex with her husband", then you right.
ok? Now I am not mocking you at all. Nor will I in the future. Just throwing out a few ideas, using a little bad humor here and there and maybe start up a good conversation. The one thing I don't do here or any other forum is ridicule, belittle or worst 'troll' someone. Ok, the last statement is a total lie, but this forum isn't about politics so, no trolling....here...
 

Hotcoupleeasy

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It's so frustrating that we will see Sophia in the mid of next year 2024 .
Any update without Sophia is a waste of time .
The next update and the update after is a waste of time .
Sorry
 
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tofhdns

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Are you bored?
Yes, I am. Its rainy and cold out.

I don't feel it's worth talking about. My post was dealing with the progression of the story.

I thought he was asking, “Has Sophia had sex with anyone other than her husband?” and I said, “Not yet.”
Yes, and we all knew what he was referring to.
Do we need to discuss this?
If you want to, sure. Love to hear your thoughts.
If you want to say "he may have meant a different character" or "he may have meant sex differently" or "Sofia had sex with her husband", then you right.
ok?
Goes back to the original question, but that does preclude Sophia having lesbian sex with the girl next door and the maid.
I don't feel it's worth talking about.
Was hoping to start a dialogue on the corruption status of the MC.
I don't care about Bill Clinton.
T'was a joke bringing up Clinton since its infamously stupid statement he made. No reason why these post can't have a little humor.
I thought he was asking, “Has Sophia had sex with anyone other than her husband?” and I said, “Not yet.”
Yes, context kind of gave it away.
Do we need to discuss this?
We don't have too. Or if you wish we can discuss the new findings of the James Webb Telescope.
If you want to say "he may have meant a different character" or "he may have meant sex differently" or "Sofia had sex with her husband", then you right.
ok? Now I am not mocking you at all. Nor will I in the future. Just throwing out a few ideas, using a little bad humor here and there and maybe start up a good conversation. The one thing I don't do here or any other forum is ridicule, belittle or worst 'troll' someone. Ok, the last statement is a total lie, but this forum isn't about politics so, no trolling....here...
Since your kind words, I would like to give you some advice.

Adding color to text doesn't seem like a good choice.
My eyes get tired.

When you write, you sometimes give examples that do not fit the topic or write ambiguous content.
Because of this, I tried reading your post several times and then gave up.

I recommend that you write the way others write.

And I apologize for writing to you in a somewhat offensive way.
Currently, I am not a good conversation partner for you.

I hope you have good conversations with other people.
 

DarthSpitz717

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Since your kind words, I would like to give you some advice.

Adding color to text doesn't seem like a good choice.
My eyes get tired.

When you write, you sometimes give examples that do not fit the topic or write ambiguous content.
Because of this, I tried reading your post several times and then gave up.

I recommend that you write the way others write.

And I apologize for writing to you in a somewhat offensive way.
Currently, I am not a good conversation partner for you.

I hope you have good conversations with other people.
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Just as long as things can be fun and lighthearted. I do love the English language and love how a person can use the same words in an order that is different.

Anyhow you and I will agree on some posts, disagree with others and maybe even comment on each other's comments. For the most part the community for this game is a good one... minus some grumbling here and there. But it's pretty constructive for the most part. And I do learn some things. Hopefully you'll enlighten me on some ignorance I have... others have and not too sutdlely either
 

Nettuno8090

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se Dylan non beve alcol, non penso che abbia senso.

Se Dylan beve in un club ma non può bere a casa di Christine, avremo un "Dylan domestico" e un "Dylan dormitorio" seguiti da un "Dylan analcolico".
E questa frammentazione stancherà tutti.

in ogni caso, le persone avranno "due Sophia" seguite da "tre Dylan"...
Oh, ci sono anche due Ellies. L'Ellie che perdona Logan e l'Ellie che non lo fa.
Non capisco cosa stia pensando questo sviluppatore facendo questo.

Sono d'accordo con la tua opinione

Dylan ha già lasciato la porta di Amber spalancata.
Può fare tutto ciò che vuole e anche Amber può farlo.

Inoltre, i personaggi in grado di mostrare la prospettiva di Dylan e il suo processo di crescita mantenendo la storia separata non sono Christine, ma Julia e Mari, e il piano originale dello sviluppatore era Emma.
(ma l'evento di Emma è stato rimosso a causa dell'impopolarità.)

E la storia Dylan/Christina è una storia che verrà comunque scartata, proprio come quella di Larry.
Non importa cosa Dylan possa fare lì.
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Lo scopo di Dylan nella storia non mi sembra basato sull'interesse nel bere alcolici, quindi ogni occasione è buona per bere (e non capisco come abbia fatto a comprare quelle bottiglie di superalcolici alla sua età, non siamo in Europa dove questo è possibile siamo credo negli USA) anche la serata trascorsa con Sophya ci siamo finalmente accorti che lei gestiva meglio le birre, a differenza di Sophya che era così ubriaca che si è fatta palpare il culo nudo durante il ballo , davanti a tutti. Quindi l'interesse di Dylan in questa storia è fare sesso con belle donne. Ma ha problemi a causa della sua età e della sua inesperienza. L'inesperienza emerge dal fatto che è testardo con Christine che è fuori dalla sua portata, sia per il fatto che ha già un fidanzato, sia per il fatto che vede Dylan da bambino.
 

awamman

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Do you want to insist that something that is not incest in real life is incest in the game?
This is not a question of generosity, but of intelligence.

Some people saw eggs and insisted they were chickens, while others saw chicks and insisted they were chickens.
Another person did not realize his ignorance and even laughed at me.

I tried to convince them, but failed, and between the limitations of the Patreon version and the expectations of the Steam version, I wondered if I should still convince them.

This is not caused by a gap between reality and the game.
The definition of incest is clear.

Are you uncomfortable with my writing?
why?
Because I said it wasn't incest when it wasn't?
Or, is it because you can't insist that something that isn't incest is incest?

I've only posted twice, but I don't understand why you're throwing a fit.

“I am not a porn star. But I enjoy porn and at the same time I am aware of reality.”
Thanks for the reply.
Just to be clear, I'm 100% against incest in real life, it's not even my favorite part of the game, I would rather see Sophia with real men, however it's clear that anyone that is here, is into a little escape from reality. I don't judge people's fantasies as long as they don't cross the line in real life.

"I'm not a porn star but if I was, my name would be Clit Eastwood"
 
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dkatryl

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I discovered something new about incest laws.


Penal Code § 285 PC is the California statute that prohibits incest. Under this section, marriage or sexual relations between close relatives is a felony punishable by up to 3 years in jail and fines of up to $10,000.

Note that only sexual intercourse is criminalized by California’s law on incest.
Other forms of sexual activity are not.

Example:
One night when both of them are drunk, Michael and Madison “hook up”—and end up engaging in oral copulation.
Because they did not engage in sexual intercourse, Michael and Madison have not violated California’s incest law.

The reason that only sexual intercourse is considered incest in California is that incest laws were written in part to prevent inbreeding between relatives—which can lead to birth defects. Thus, only sex that can lead to pregnancy is treated as criminal behavior.


What I said was right again!!
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So do it in the butt!

Makes both Church and State happy!
 

ancienregimele

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The throwing of disabled children off a cliff in ancient Sparta is a myth. Archaeological research has shown that only adult bones have been found, people that were convicted of criminal acts.
They were taken away & abandoned far from help, not thrown off a cliff. This practice was still followed in C18th London but there the unwanted babies were left on rubbish tips. Sometimes passers-by took them & some ended up in orphanages.
 

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The throwing of disabled children off a cliff in ancient Sparta is a myth. Archaeological research has shown that only adult bones have been found, people that were convicted of criminal acts.
If so, then my analogy remains valid :sneaky:
 
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tofhdns

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Lo scopo di Dylan nella storia non mi sembra basato sull'interesse nel bere alcolici, quindi ogni occasione è buona per bere (e non capisco come abbia fatto a comprare quelle bottiglie di superalcolici alla sua età, non siamo in Europa dove questo è possibile siamo credo negli USA) anche la serata trascorsa con Sophya ci siamo finalmente accorti che lei gestiva meglio le birre, a differenza di Sophya che era così ubriaca che si è fatta palpare il culo nudo durante il ballo , davanti a tutti. Quindi l'interesse di Dylan in questa storia è fare sesso con belle donne. Ma ha problemi a causa della sua età e della sua inesperienza. L'inesperienza emerge dal fatto che è testardo con Christine che è fuori dalla sua portata, sia per il fatto che ha già un fidanzato, sia per il fatto che vede Dylan da bambino.
From the first sentence of your post, it is being translated as conflicting statements such as "It is good for drinking alcohol" and "Drinking alcohol is probably not the purpose."

I don't know Italian. (I also don't know English)
Perhaps the translation program did not translate properly from the first conversation.

Since I don't know any Italian, I can't detect the error in the translation program and I can't continue the conversation with you.

sorry
 

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First of all, I think some here should realize that AWAM is not a game about Sophia alone, but a game about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother". Nowhere does this title specify that all scenes must be depicted from Sophia's perspective.

Telling a story from multiple perspectives is an often-used device. One example is maybe "The Godfather" were not all the scenes in this movie are told from just one perspective. Like in AWAM also in this movie it is not just about one charakter, but about the construct and dynamics in this family. The change of perspective is necessary to show the development of other characters and thus give depth to the story.

Incredibly, I think there are elements of agreement here. I never believed that the story was going to be a detailed daily diary of what Sophia got up to. Indeed, there were characters that seemed to have great potential in what they might do, as well as in their inter-actions with Sophia. Most have been discarded, written out, forgotten about, or placed in limbo for indefinite periods but certainly for years at a time, e.g. Bennett, Alyssa, Aiden, Nathalie & there are many more.

My point is that there was no need to make Dylan an official "2nd MC" because he was already prominent throughout the story. His elevation to official lead status & the reduction of Sophia to what used to be termed, his "leading lady," (a supporting role, however important), transformed AWAM into the average teen porn that it now resembles. That is, it would be average teen porn if there was any penetrative sex. It would also need to be faster paced to fully qualify. Story-wise, IMO, it's debatable whether it's even average but the high quality renders bring it up to this level.

This 'Dylanisation' wasn't done to tell a great erotic story of a woman's cheating & corruption in VN form but to please a youthful core audience of paying Patrons, many of whom, presumably, identify with the teenage virgin schoolboy, in some way. So far the writing in Part Two is not worthy of the occasional high standard that the Dev proved capable of achieving in Part One.

What other reasons could exist for the departure from the original concept outlined in the promo blurb? Simplification could be one. Having a woman as MC while writing as a man, [L&P is male ... end of], was always going to be difficult. There's also the lack of plot-lines for a mature woman, (other than the stupidest of porn fictions), which could be readily adapted without a huge effort. Dylan, on the other hand provides a wealth of well-trodden scenarios from which to draw, with the upcoming teen party being one example. Acting tough while remaining seated on his first visit to a night-club with 2 potential opponents, beating up hobos in the park after one martial arts lesson, with 4 drunken, nothing-to-lose, potential opponents, etc., have also endowed him with frankly, ridiculous super-powers, which even many confident teenagers do not possess, let alone the shrinking violet of Part One, who found it difficult to get a girlfriend & needed his Mammy to tell him about girls & sex. It's all about schoolboy wish fulfilment. That needn't have been an issue but in practice it's left no room for anything else. Dylan is the real MC of a simplified story of teen porn & with a large supporting cast of other teenagers.

Now of course AWAM needs to appeal to teens, I understand that. It's a fact I was a teenager myself for 7, not always easy, years. It's also a fact that AWAM originally attracted a wider audience than this, an audience which has been ignored during Part Two.

You mention "The Godfather" & I agree that this was an example of excellent story-telling. It's one of my all-time favourite films & I've seen it numerous times. Audiences experience the activities & POVs of Michael, Santino, Tom etc., all without the need to make any one of them an official 2nd MC. Imagine an intermission in the cinema where it was announced that a particular character was now a "2nd MC," 'for your viewing pleasure.' It wouldn't have worked.

Speaking of which, imagine also a vociferous lobby who were into nasophilia & wanted Don Corleone's nose to grow 2 or 3 inches. [There are & have been whole cultures for whom the nose had sexual connotations, e.g. Ancient Rome]. Part Two of the movie would then have been shown with a 2nd MC & a newly mutated Don, just like Dylan plus Sophia & her ever-growing "milk jugs."
 
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