Alley_Cat

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How do the side jobs contribute to Sophia's corruption? At all? It's entirely possible to either not wear the nurse outfit for the old farts, or not teach sex ed to the kids. Sure it might be enjoyable content for those that are into those kinks, but that's not the point. Like the Coach Sophia storyline, the side jobs are better off as DLC once L&P has a finished game under his belt. The sex ed classes also don't pass the Pub Test, so are highly likely to cause problems for a Steam release. I suspect L&P knows this but wont admit it. An attempt to speed up progress is a lot more palatable. **Yes and no it kind of does in its own warped way. I would have preferred those side jobs have never been started to begin with. The old men and Sophia's personality along with her tastes in men just never worked out from the beginning. The tutoring was so poorly done with the "corruption" of Sophia, it just missed so many plausible ways that story arche could be carried out. But they are in the game...right now and there is no closure, there is no work around that furthers the story at all. A long time ago I mentioned that Sophia's character build was a little off. To have either the job at the retirement home or tutoring work, Sophia from the very started needed to like the attention she gets from men (and women) ... she needed to be proud and vain of her looks as well. And if there was any "kink" Sophia needed it to even allow either the old folks or tutoring to have any creditability. Plus, those two-story arches just get in the way of better routes that could be small but entertaining. I'd like more Zac and his mother complicating Sophia's life--that would have taken the maid route out of the loop. Which at this rate we can forget that maid-Sophia event never happened since things are getting simplified.

The movers were never going to be a route. That much was clear from the walkthrough, since they don't get a highlight. They don't get relationship points. L&P was even abundantly clear they were only going to return at the end of the game. Their only point was to get the ball rolling for Filthy points. Many of the minor characters like the subway thugs, or Janitor Clarke are like that. Even Bennett and possibly Aiden are heading in that direction. Aiden is probably too popular for L&P to openly admit it though. I hate the Bennet route more than the side jobs route. To easy a solution for Sophia to solve...all she did have to do is go on a "date" with Bennet and get Bennet to admit to the blackmail while recording on a cell phone and have the choice of threating to expose him or just expose him. Aiden route was a total missed opportunity... I'd have liked that one to continue but the tasks where so lame. And the developer could have done so much more with Aiden story line.

Jules still does have a chance though. Her next appearance is I believe on PD16 for Ellie Day. And we've already seen that Ellie can use Jules to further her chances with Sophia. Am worried "Ellie" Day will be as lame as Aiden route... could have been better but wasn't just to keep the slow burn going
Why would more content with Zac and Alyssa take Nat's events out of whatever loop you are talking about? For the most part Nat's events are part of the GW route, Alyssa and Zac are part of Dylan's.

Solving Bennett's blackmail is even easier than you suggest - there's already the groundwork set - Sophia just needs to speak to the school board and go over Bennett's head. It wouldn't even need to be rendered. As for Aiden, I agree it's a missed opportunity - for me his threat just comes off as impotent. It may have worked against a young, inexperienced school teacher, but Sophia is more well-connected than Aiden could know. And if you're not playing the Dylan route, the only consequence so far is that Ellie comments that things are quieter around the house. Generally appears happier. Might even get in some nude sunbathing, and more naked Ellie around the house is a good thing.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know about the other routes, but Sophia doesn't seem to need much corruption once you get to a certain point. In my playthrough that's the gym session with Patricia on day 3. Once I've passed that point, I've gained enough Filthy points for them to be self-sustaining and no longer have worry about Filthy being more than GW.
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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So, if i’m playing along Sofia/Dylan path now, i should only stick on that road and no peeking into the lesbian path of Sofia/and other girls from the begining and no + points with female characters - because this will ruin my Sofia/Dylan path?

Just don't wanna read most part of the walkthrough... sorry)
It all depends on your play style; for example, the yoga event has some light lesbian stuff in it that involves Dylan. Sophia/Paticia/Claire/Marie and Dylan.
 
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So, if i’m playing along Sofia/Dylan path now, i should only stick on that road and no peeking into the lesbian path of Sofia/and other girls from the begining and no + points with female characters - because this will ruin my Sofia/Dylan path?

Just don't wanna read most part of the walkthrough... sorry)
As far as I'm aware, the routes are largely independent. So you can play the Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia routes all in the same playthrough.

What you can't do in the one playthrough is for Dylan to pursue anyone besides Sophia. Setting up Dylan with Emma, Amber, and I believe Marie (as of the Salon event) and whoever the LI is of the bonus storyline will close off the Sophia/Dylan route.

In fact if you have maximum points with Patricia for the Yoga event, Dylan benefits greatly. And while I speak highly of sending Dylan to boarding school whilst playing the Ellie route, it's not actually required. You just miss out on some flavour text.
 
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School setting doesn't work either. It's not a college, so there's underage students, and they all look underage too. There's so much stuff that doesn't work with Steam, I have no clue how he'd ever be able to go through with it.
Well, if DOL can't work either, what will be the new name of his censor, censor version?
 
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School setting doesn't work either. It's not a college, so there's underage students, and they all look underage too. There's so much stuff that doesn't work with Steam, I have no clue how he'd ever be able to go through with it.
Some games (like JOHN) could be ported to Steam pretty effectively, but I agree that AWAM isn't one of them. Even with the DOL version of the game, there's just a ton of work required to bring the game to Steam while keeping things coherent. I could see it being worth the effort if AWAM was struggling to find an audience on Patreon, but considering the financial success he's had on Patreon is it really worth the investment to basically rebuild the whole game? Especially when he's still so far from completion.

I don't think Steam is a realistic option for L&P to pursue.

Dr.Fapalot you posted as I was reponding. I think the problem with DOL is that it's a shell of a game that isn't actually meant to be played. It has forcibly aged Dylan and Sam, but that was done in haste just to keep Patreon happy. But the story (from what I remember) is just a bare bones "Find/Replace" with mother --> landlady; son---> tenent. When I played it, DOL didn't make sense as a standalone game. So it isn't that he would need a censored version of the censored version, it's that he'd basically need to reimagine the entire game.
 

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it's that he'd basically need to reimagine the entire game.
Absolutely right! And not only to rethink, but also to completely remake the game, which makes the new version of the game almost of little interest to me.
But the worst thing about this story is that everything he's done in the game so far is hinting at upcoming events, he's kind of making promises. The various plots of the game promised various sequels in the direction of various fetishes. But now, when it comes to the hot, then the situation changes dramatically and he declares that he will remove certain plots from the game.
Many people here know that I have always supported L&P, including financially, when I had the opportunity to do so. I always justified him by telling those who called him a liar, those who insulted him, that they were wrong and should not rush into their assessments and judgments.
Now I am extremely depressed and disappointed.
If, in addition to the Steam and DOL version of the game, he does not continue to create an unofficial version of the game by continuing the plots that have been presented so far, I will have to apologize to everyone who previously called L&P a liar. It is in this case that I will regret for the first time that I supported him all these years.

Now I still have a ghostly hope that he will continue to create what he started. But this hope is fading every day.
 

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I'm aware that the next Sophia/Ellie event won't be a shower one.. but incase L&P decides to do one more shower event, then I wish it leads to something like this:
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They don't need to be in the shower. The shower was just the catalyst for Ellie to get Sophia naked. Their relationship has progressed passed that.

The bathroom now just has the advantage in that it locks. I'm a little curious why Sophia forgot that during the recent Dylan event though
 
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They don't need to be in the shower. The shower was just the catalyst for Ellie to get Sophia naked. Their relationship has progressed passed that.
I absolutely agree with the fact that they don't need the shower anymore.. It was just wishful thinking (or a fantasy in the far-off future) where Ellie/Sophia would just barge into the bathroom when the other is taking a bath and start making out without any hesitation/inhibition.. well, atleast it's a nice dream I guess
 

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I absolutely agree with the fact that they don't need the shower anymore.. It was just wishful thinking (or a fantasy in the far-off future) where Ellie/Sophia would just barge into the bathroom when the other is taking a bath and start making out without any hesitation/inhibition.. well, atleast it's a nice dream I guess
That sounds more like something I need to do for the fan art thread
 

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I absolutely agree with the fact that they don't need the shower anymore.. It was just wishful thinking (or a fantasy in the far-off future) where Ellie/Sophia would just barge into the bathroom when the other is taking a bath and start making out without any hesitation/inhibition.. well, atleast it's a nice dream I guess
I am assuming he will choose the drunk path to push boundaries, while it is not the most imaginative way, it is definitely the most realistic one.
 
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