GingerSweetGirl

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Something tells me our balls will be of a certain color when we play the update
No because you shouldn't expect anything but slight story progress. This update was never supposed to be significant, the story it tells is literally just a bridge to what was supposed to be the next substantial update. Do not go into this update expecting something super sexy. It's why all of the effort for this update has been mindblowing, we already know that nothing happens.
 

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Actually it is relevant how Patreon is perceived. Pardon me, but it is not just "some" people who perceive Patreon the same kind of marketplace Kickstarter or SubStar are, but the majority who know of it.
It is not even questioned that there is a "market lite" situation on patreon! As for the high end patreons of the various games, those are mostly patrons in the old mold, but they are a distinct minority on any project.

As for the hot content, L&P himself implied it. He threatened to remove "further hot content" from teasers and the game itself, if the pic would be leaked or even discussed here. "Further hot content" means argumentum e contrario that the spoiler in question has to contain hot content for it to be a threat of removing future hot content beyond that spoiler. It is completely senseless to threaten to remove stuff not even included in the spoiler, so hot content in addition to a mega spoiling of storylines he boldheaded should be in there. He failed to deliver both! That pic is neither hot nor does it spoil much of any type of storyline in the game.
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Nowhere does it say "Further hot content".
If it's from somewhere else - please show it.

And about the perception of Patreon. We both know it's not a marketplace. We can maybe call it a "kind of a marketplace" like you did, but only when the payment is done with every release, and not monthly (as in this case) otherwise it just isn't, nor it is advertised as one. We can agree to not agree here...
 
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No because you shouldn't expect anything but slight story progress. This update was never supposed to be significant, the story it tells is literally just a bridge to what was supposed to be the next substantial update. Do not go into this update expecting something super sexy. It's why all of the effort for this update has been mindblowing, we already know that nothing happens.
L&P promised a couple of extremely hot moments :D
 

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L&P promised a couple of extremely hot moments :D
And you believe that?

There will be a couple suggestive moments, some flirting, and maybe some nudity (Natalie seems like the best bet), but "hot"? No. We need to calibrate our expectations for what this update is, an overly elaborate filler episode before the evening's main events. Sophia will look great in her leather bodysuit, but don't expect anything too wild from it.
 

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Read it again here
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Nowhere does it say "Further hot content".
If it's from somewhere else - please show it.

And about the perception of Patreon. We both know it's not a marketplace. We can maybe call it a "kind of a marketplace" like you did, but only when the payment is done with every release, and not monthly (as in this case) otherwise it just isn't, nor it is advertised as one. We can agree to not agree here...
Chummer, I cannot repost the stuff the moderators removed!:FacePalm: L&P stated/threatened in it clearly that "further hot content" would be removed from teasers, spoilers and the game itself, if the pic would be leaked or just discussed here! As said, further hot content can only be removed if the spoiler has some of it itself!

As for Patreon we really should agree to disagree, since your argument is not valid from a contract law perspective. § 145 ff BGB Invitatio ad offerendum and "2 übereinstimmende Willenserklärungen" (2 consensual declarations of intention) means a contract is closed. In this case it would be considered a service contract § 631 ff BGB. Pure patronage would be handled differently, but as said we should agree to disagree.
 
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And you believe that?

There will be a couple suggestive moments, some flirting, and maybe some nudity (Natalie seems like the best bet), but "hot"? No. We need to calibrate our expectations for what this update is, an overly elaborate filler episode before the evening's main events. Sophia will look great in her leather bodysuit, but don't expect anything too wild from it.
We don't know anything about work 1 - 2, why there are so many renderers, of course we won't fuck around there, and we don't know Aiden's task... :)
 

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What grudges? You can do whatever you want. I am not an L&P, I can easily ignore you and people like you. I just feel sorry for him and it is unpleasant for what you are doing in relation to him.
Just a note I have already ignored the miscreant and it has cleaned up this thread immeasurably.:):ROFLMAO:
 

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Chummer, I cannot repost the stuff the moderators removed!:FacePalm: L&P stated/threatened in it clearly that "further hot content" would be removed from teasers, spoilers and the game itself, if the pic would be leaked or just discussed here! As said, further hot content can only be removed if the spoiler has some of it itself!
How convenient...
 
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Jesus so many pages. This forum should do something to forbid new accounts to post for X days.
Let's all just wait for june 15.

As for the copyright talk, tbh I think that even if laws weren't on L&P's side, at least some common sense should forbid you from posting stuff around here that he specifically asked not to share. Share on DM or wait like a week before posting so he can get some money out of it. He's not exactly some unknown dev that doesn't participate here in f95.
 
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Honestly, I think that this preview image offers a lot of possibilities for Dylan. I guess, Nahalie is waiting to enter the house to do her work (using her adequate work outfit) which should give Dylan (not Sam) some new perspectives on working life itself ... ;)

I guess, the combination of this three has a lot of potential to finally give the story some progress, but I think the event will end up relatively mild. L&P's previews usually seem to the hint on more than he ultimately delivers.

At the same time, it has to be said that Dylan really needs to make some progress in his story compared to his sister. So maybe, ... he will get to see something more than just naked skin this time ... or not ...:ROFLMAO:
Anyone who expected a half-naked woman on the sofa as a teaser is sure to have been disappointed.
But actually you can see a lot that stimulates the imagination. Sophia and Dylan, very familiar and easygoing, on their way home. The hug / touch is both common and unusual. Since we know that there is a comfortable way for Sophia to get out of blackmail after Aiden's 3rd task, I would assume that there was a conversation between Sophia and Dylan.
In this scene Dylan will do something or say / offer to open up this path for Sophia. Hence the familiarity with touch. They're celebrating an agreement.
And if we assume that the girl in front of the house is Natalie and Sophia comes back from exercising sweaty, it is only correct to assume that there will be a shower scene. Only this time Natalie will watch Sophia. And Sophai will know that and, according to Natalie's event on the marriage bed, will return the favor.
You can a lot interpret in this picture, you just have to have your imagination. I think that's what teasers like this are for. When I want to see a naked woman I go to fan art.
 

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As for Patreon we really should agree to disagree, since your argument is not valid from a contract law perspective. § 145 ff BGB Invitatio ad offerendum and "2 übereinstimmende Willenserklärungen" (2 consensual declarations of intention) means a contract is closed. In this case it would be considered a service contract § 631 ff BGB. Pure patronage would be handled differently, but as said we should agree to disagree.
I took the time to actually read those contract law paragraphs, and in no way it makes my point invalid. Maybe if a creator doesn't produce anything at all, maybe then you'll have a point, but that's clearly not the case here.
 

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How convenient...
Not my fault you had no chance to read it, so please scale down on the sarcasmmeter. It would have spared me a couple of your questions, if you had. Was an "interesting" read, I can tell you this much. L&P was literally foaming at the mouth, he truly lost it.

I took the time to actually read those contract law paragraphs, and in no way it makes my point invalid. Maybe if a creator doesn't produce anything at all, maybe then you'll have a point, but that's clearly not the case here.
It would be a muddy go and no way most lawyers would go the full way for something like this, but there are further laws covering things in the whole range of §631-650 BGB, teleological approaches of Unsatisfibility §323 BGB or funny teleological approaches of §311 ff BGB, but that goes too deep. Point is, true Mäzenatentum or Sponsoring is regulated differently.
 
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