Hlextor

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There is also an event at Andy and Katie's apartment, which Liam and Sofia are supposed to attend, but there is probably an option where Sofia will not be there. Although I am inclined to believe that Sofia will also come to them.
Why wouldn't she meet up with Liam at Kathy/Andy's? Who came up with this idea? Of course, she will be there. Why would there be an event without Sophia? The concert will be a complete event and then the Kathy/Andy event will follow. I would be surprised if he merged the two events and switched back and forth. That doesn't make any sense.
 

Alley_Cat

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I think Sam can do it, not Patricia.
Depending on how she gets there, it's far more likely Sam gives Ellie a lift home, since Sophia is due at Cathy and Andy's, and is also still trying to set up Ellie with Sam.
 

Bane71

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Why wouldn't she meet up with Liam at Kathy/Andy's? Who came up with this idea? Of course, she will be there. Why would there be an event without Sophia? The concert will be a complete event and then the Kathy/Andy event will follow. I would be surprised if he merged the two events and switched back and forth. That doesn't make any sense.
This makes no sense only as long as you do not know the plot of this evening!
 

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There is also an event at Andy and Katie's apartment, which Liam and Sofia are supposed to attend, but there is probably an option where Sofia will not be there. Although I am inclined to believe that Sofia will also come to them.
I don't think there will be any possibility of Sophia not being there. This is the stage of the beginning of a new storyline. So everyone will have to atleast play this first event of the Storyline ( as this event gets proposed on both the good and filthy wife paths, and Cathy mentions she wants to talk with both of them ). Ofcourse whether we continue it or not will depend on our choice with Cathy.
 

Bane71

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Sophia will return home and change her clothes, if we want to keep a trace of realism.
It's a marriage, not friends with benefits.
Look, this is already crossing all the boundaries! I don't understand why you don't like the jumpsuit?!
I don't see any problem with Sam driving Sofia straight to Katie and Andy's apartment. In the outfit in which Sofia was at the concert, she may well come to visit her friends.
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However, I don't understand at all why you don't like Sofia's jumpsuit?
 

Hlextor

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Look, this is already crossing all the boundaries! I don't understand why you don't like the jumpsuit?!
I don't see any problem with Sam driving Sofia straight to Katie and Andy's apartment. In the outfit in which Sofia was at the concert, she may well come to visit her friends.
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However, I don't understand at all why you don't like Sofia's jumpsuit?
Try to pump your blood back into your brain from below. The romper is simply a fashion fiasco.
 

Alley_Cat

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I'm guessing we won't be seeing Lesbian action with Sophia and Patricia
It's unlikely during the concert. But during the museum date and at the horse ranch, action is pretty certain, especially since Pat seems to like driving Sophia around.

And Sophia spending time with her sister is a much better excuse than spending time with her friends kid.
 

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Look, this is already crossing all the boundaries! I don't understand why you don't like the jumpsuit?!
I don't see any problem with Sam driving Sofia straight to Katie and Andy's apartment. In the outfit in which Sofia was at the concert, she may well come to visit her friends.
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However, I don't understand at all why you don't like Sofia's jumpsuit?
Liam doesn't know anything so far, he only knows that his wife wears a bra all the time, even inside the house.
No matter how naive you are, and I've known the type, when your wife shows up at your best friends dressed like that, nipples begging for attention, a red light goes on.
Plus she has to say where she's from, and dressed like that is no good.

Remember this:
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We can accept that she dressed provocatively for a teenager, to be the centre of attention and feel a little wild, but her husband doesn't need to know.

Here, Liam is an expert ( Dylan too ;) ) and Sophia NOT, and can be an excuse for the clothes chosen for the concert :ROFLMAO:
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t3alqdansam

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I was thinking about this & realised I've lost track of what the actual timespan of the story is meant to be. We're supposed to get 30 days but in San Alejo more time than this is supposed to have gone by. Still, it's bound to be a relatively short time to have sex with several men & women plus the family.

I'm all for some wild stuff, the debate revolves around what, when & who.
And it is so easy for him to solve. It could easily be part of his realism. Time jumps, no problem. Advance a day, or weeks, or a month not an issue for the audience if he uses it to help his realism. Forget the morning, afternoon and evening series of events. Why not one event a day. As many have discussed, be event based in the releases but, make the event a PD. Once again, simplifying the control of the corruption by making the time frame more believable. Spend time with just Sophia as she works through her dilemmas. The current day has the side job, then Cathy, then Aiden, then the jogging, then Nathalie, then the concert, then back to Cathy. Is Sophia so ignorant of her self she tumbles down the corruption path within hours? Or is she making decisions and accepting consequences that she may not want but, has to accept to achieve certain results/goals. Does she take the time to think about it? Unlike the rationalizations, in a certain scene, that was horrible writing to say the least.

I am getting the impression she is a runaway train and no one is in the driver seat. Not reasonable for whom he presented to start. IMO
 

Bane71

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Liam doesn't know anything so far, he only knows that his wife wears a bra all the time, even inside the house.
No matter how naive you are, and I've known the type, when your wife shows up at your best friends dressed like that, nipples begging for attention, a red light goes on.
Plus she has to say where she's from, and dressed like that is no good.

Remember this:
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We can accept that she dressed provocatively for a teenager, to be the centre of attention and feel a little wild, but her husband doesn't need to know.

Here, Liam is an expert ( Dylan too ;) ) and Sophia NOT, and can be an excuse for the clothes chosen for the concert :ROFLMAO:
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I didn’t want to answer you for childish nonsense about blood absent in my head, but to hell with you, I don’t care, you probably try everything on yourself.

First, we are talking about a game character, not a real person.
Secondly, our game character Sofia has not worn a bra for several weeks and sooner or later, of course, her husband will find out about it.
Third, why can't it happen now? The story should move forward with Liam as well. It is quite appropriate if this happens now in the circle of old friends. Sofia arrives and Liam notices that Sofia is without a bra. This may be an additional plot element in the development of an affair between these two couples.

Why you and some other visitors of this forum are extremely categorical in their judgments and do not allow the idea that something may not be as you imagine it, I categorically do not understand.
 

keefer43

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The thing is everyone, at some point something has to happen. I know we complain about the sense of realism slipping away while the corruption and pacing increase, but maybe it's an impossible balancing act. This game has been in development for 3+ years, and even the most hardcore fans will admit that it's getting tiresome. Many of us have complained about the pacing and that the story requires that Sophia's corruption gains momentum. And now that we're seeing it on PD 12, we're concerned that we're losing the sense of realism. It all feels unfair because we're putting ourselves in a lose-lose situation. In-game we're a week away from Sophia having her first extramarital affair...(sexy) stuff needs to start happening pronto in order for her to make that leap in fewer than 7 days. Meanwhile, we're only getting (MAYBE) two updates a year. Do you really want to play a game with the pacing of PD 9 or 10 while only getting 2 updates a year? I don't want that.

At some point this is a game, a sexy visual novel, but a game just the same. Putting aside the tutoring side job for a second, at some point this is a game where sex is going to happen- and that's going to include unrealistic sex. Maybe we just need to be more liberal about suspending our disbelief about things like biker bars and pigeons. I know that I'm still going to be critical of some things, and I will always hate the romper, but we adjust our expectations between pacing and realism. Without time jumps, a (roughly) 30-day window to devolve into a woman who has sex with her children is already insane. So there's an implicit understanding that some wild stuff is going to happen and that we just need to roll with it.
In fact many might argue that the seasons have in fact turned already she is slipping down that slippery slope as we speak.
 
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