VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Vanq]

Incident, escape, escapade, cliche. There's one 'bright spot' & that is from the look of the barmaid, it's not like the patrons havn't seen someone who likes to advertise their over-inflated assets before. It has to be a getaway in a vehicle, so I'm assuming there's a hasty exit, where Sophia ends up in Sam's car but that leaves the problem of why weren't the sisters escaping together, or will there be three people, or more in Patricia's car? Yes, I'm thinking, what about the boys in the band? Patricia could take them for a spin, or is Patricia in their van? I'm not sure that the romper will end up in a fit condition to wear to visit Andy & Cathy, if Sophia goes at all.

That would escalate things, and give Sophia and Sam some alone time.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I feel that such a situation will be very porn like. I mean no matter the moral compass of a person. If she is leaving the house, it's going to be a really sad moment. What about the children, her family is in shambles and she thinks that this is the best moment to get some dick. He would have to kill believability to excecute such a scene.

What I see more plausible is what if the neighbors move out or someone in their locality and the movers come to meet Sophia and from there on the scene gets to wherever L&P intends it to.

I see it as up to the player. If you max out filthy points then yeah, I think the game could go very porn-heavy. But if you don't want that then I think it should be easy to avoid. And I'm not envisioning Sophia having sex with the movers right there as she moves out necessarily, just that she'll see them as possible sexual partners and that the opportunity may present itself late in the game.

 

[Bane71]

I see it as up to the player. If you max out filthy points then yeah, I think the game could go very porn-heavy. But if you don't want that then I think it should be easy to avoid. And I'm not envisioning Sophia having sex with the movers right there as she moves out necessarily, just that she'll see them as possible sexual partners and that the opportunity may present itself late in the game.

One thing makes me sad, L&P makes hints about various variations of sex with Sofia in the future, without specifically indicating what will be present in the game and what will not be!
This can be very disappointing later, if there were hints, but the expectations will not be met. And the reference to realism will not reduce these disappointments in any way.

 

[Bane71]

The venue is definitely not going to be used much. I also think not too much time was put into setting up the location, we still have been getting progress updates regularly.

He has said that there are basically two scenes in the Sam event, one is the bar performance and the other is a sequel afterwards, It's good that this is a short scene and he is more focused on the actual event. It is a waste to setup a location and not use it properly but if the story demands it's better to follow the story.

Until the update came and with it the disappointment, I want to explain.
L&P did not claim that Sam's evening consists of two parts!
This is my guess, I told L&P how I imagine the evening and the relationship between Sam and Sofia! L&P told me in response that it is not far from his plan.

I don't want to mislead anyone, we don't know exactly how events will develop, there are only guesses.

 

[Deleted member 1536527]

This isn't fap material for many of us "old fucks," it's much more serious than that!

Can't believe it but I feel like the adult here saying this: you SERIOUSLY need to reconsider a lot of things if that is the case.

just a growing resignation to the fact that the game is being skewed towards a certain paying demographic

And if you're grown, financially stable, and it's SO serious for you as you say it, why don't you become a part of said paying demographic. Personally I have played many games here (nothing more than fap material for me sorry mate) that gets certain updates that kill my boner. But I absolutely feel I have no right to really protest because it was voted in by patrons, and knowing (having experience) how absolutely soul crushing and tough game dev can be (yes even VNs) I think the devs are perfectly justified to cater to the demographics that pay their bills. Because they're the one's actually help making the games not us.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Until the update came and with it the disappointment, I want to explain.
L&P did not claim that Sam's evening consists of two parts!
This is my guess, I told L&P how I imagine the evening and the relationship between Sam and Sofia! L&P told me in response that it is not far from his plan.

I don't want to mislead anyone, we don't know exactly how events will develop, there are only guesses.

There are two parts, this is not based on what you have mentioned on the thread, it's great that you don't want a misunderstanding. This is something L&P told me when I had asked.
Initially I wouldn't have even talked about it since I didnt know if L&P would be okay with me disclosing it on the thread but then I think KillJoys also mentioned something similar about there being 2 events which he got from L&P, by that time it was more like common knowledge here that there will be 2 two scenes so I thought why not say it here.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Ellie is also possibly yet to arrive

Dont you think Sams mom Amber would want to see her sons first gig for support and possibly his sister too?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Dont you think Sams mom Amber would want to see her sons first gig for support and possibly his sister too?

There's no mention of them coming. Whereas Sophia specifically invited Ellie, but might have been doing things with friends, so I'm assuming may arrive later.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Can't believe it but I feel like the adult here saying this: you SERIOUSLY need to reconsider a lot of things if that is the case.



And if you're grown, financially stable, and it's SO serious for you as you say it, why don't you become a part of said paying demographic. Personally I have played many games here (nothing more than fap material for me sorry mate) that gets certain updates that kill my boner. But I absolutely feel I have no right to really protest because it was voted in by patrons, and knowing (having experience) how absolutely soul crushing and tough game dev can be (yes even VNs) I think the devs are perfectly justified to cater to the demographics that pay their bills. Because they're the one's actually help making the games not us.

There is a bit of a issue with that IMO. Anyone generally joins the patron after playing the game, basically after liking what the creator has to offer and his vision. Now if instead of his vision I get to see the vision of majority patrons then I'm not interested. I didn't pay to see how the Masses want a game to be but to see what the Dev has in mind.
Catering to everyone's wishes generally leads to the doom of most projects or an absolute mess of a story. That's what none want for AWAM. I have liked the game for L&P's vision not his patrons.

 

[randgom3083t3]

In terms of art, story, and eroticism, I don't think there's anything like AWAM. That doesn't mean it's the best game or anything, it's just super unique. The game isn't perfect, and I tend to be super critical, but the game has inspired over 70,000 posts in this thread so it's doing something right! If you're looking for something with decent dialog/story then I don't see any reason why you shouldn't play this game. Just know that we're probably around a decade away from the MC having sex with someone that isn't her husband. That isn't a joke.

Edit- another game that is often compared to AWAM is Jessica O'neil's Hard News. That's a pretty great game that is much faster paced and has a lot more sexual content.

Yeah, AWAM isn't the best written story or anything, but it's at least interesting and different. The character development could be better and so could the story, but erotic visual novels that don't revolve around a lot of sex isn't very common yet it seems.

As long as it made sense, then there's really no reason for her to have sex with someone else. Movies already have gratuitous sex in it. I only go down the lesbian path, but also wouldn't care if it took several more updates or never if it's sacrificing the story.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll take a look

 

[WW_Porn_Star]

There are 6 sex scenes in the game so far. Four with the husband Liam, one with Sophia spying on the neighbours, and one fantasy sequence with Sophia fucking a guy in prison.

Thank you!

Think of this game as "erotic" and not "porn". While there are sex scenes I think you'll find them underwhelming. This is a game that has built a fanbase around eroticism and anticipation and there's nothing else like it. That said, I think it's either a love/hate kind of thing. If you love it you'll do so because you're into the twists and turns of the eroticism, even if there aren't many moments that are traditionally "porn". If you hate it you'll do so because it's a lot of reading with very little payoff for masturbation.

The last few updates have seen a big improvement in the pacing of the game, but that's relative. If you come into this game now, I think you'll be left very underwhelmed with the increase in action over the last two updates. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have a hard time recommending this game unless you fully understand that it isn't a traditional porn game.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. This sounds like a very well-written story so I will invest the time. I got a bit nervous when I saw how long this game has been out and people were still complaining about the pace and lack or erotic scenes. But your comment about the fanbase here explains the complaints. Thank you again.

 

[Bane71]

Thank you!



Thank you for taking the time to explain this. This sounds like a very well-written story so I will invest the time. I got a bit nervous when I saw how long this game has been out and people were still complaining about the pace and lack or erotic scenes. But your comment about the fanbase here explains the complaints. Thank you again.

There are complaints and whining here, but the vast majority of people on this forum are quite interesting and friendly!
Join us, it's interesting.

 

[Jack Adams]

Get some alcohol in her system and you'll find out if she will be up on stage. Remember how she was at the club with Ellie and Patricia with alcohol.

The great social lubricator does its job well with Sophia. However, my imagination can't summon the 'Sophia on stage' scenario given the previews we have received so far. Your creativity may be more fertile than mine. How would you have this situation unfold?

 

[Bane71]

Speaking of recent controversies, about Liam's allegedly negative reaction to the appearance of Sofia without a bra in Katie's apartment! Here is another moment, Sofia came home from the city in a dress and she is not wearing a bra! And Liam didn't say a word to her!


Therefore, I strongly disagree that the appearance of Sofia in Katie's apartment in a jumpsuit without a bra is not realistic and acceptable, and I do not agree that her appearance in this form must necessarily cause a negative reaction from Liam!

These are the kind of heated arguments we have here!

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Speaking of recent controversies, about Liam's allegedly negative reaction to the appearance of Sofia without a bra in Katie's apartment! Here is another moment, Sofia came home from the city in a dress and she is not wearing a bra! And Liam didn't say a word to her!
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Therefore, I strongly disagree that the appearance of Sofia in Katie's apartment in a jumpsuit without a bra is not realistic and acceptable, and I do not agree that her appearance in this form must necessarily cause a negative reaction from Liam!

These are the kind of heated arguments we have here!

Cathy. It's Cathy's apartment.

 

[Bane71]

Cathy. It's Cathy's apartment.

No! This is the moment when Sofia returned home after a walk in the city.

 

[micketysn]

Any new update?

 

[Sabertooth__]

Speaking of recent controversies, about Liam's allegedly negative reaction to the appearance of Sofia without a bra in Katie's apartment! Here is another moment, Sofia came home from the city in a dress and she is not wearing a bra! And Liam didn't say a word to her!
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Therefore, I strongly disagree that the appearance of Sofia in Katie's apartment in a jumpsuit without a bra is not realistic and acceptable, and I do not agree that her appearance in this form must necessarily cause a negative reaction from Liam!

These are the kind of heated arguments we have here!

I don't see the bra thing problematic as well but answering Liam on where she has been all glammed up could be a little troubling. But keeping that aside

The issue with having Sophia go there in her romper from the Dev's pov is that he would have to do duplicate renders with another dress since there are people who don't follow the Sam storyline. Now the update is already big plus duplicating 100+ renders would be a real waste. He did it for the Aiden 2nd task because the alternative dress choice only had 5-6 renders at max.

 

[Deleted member 1536527]

There is a bit of a issue with that IMO. Anyone generally joins the patron after playing the game, basically after liking what the creator has to offer and his vision. Now if instead of his vision I get to see the vision of majority patrons then I'm not interested. I didn't pay to see how the Masses want a game to be but to see what the Dev has in mind.
Catering to everyone's wishes generally leads to the doom of most projects or an absolute mess of a story. That's what none want for AWAM. I have liked the game for L&P's vision not his patrons.

The point is that by becoming a patron you can influence the development of the game. Now do you know what the "majority" of patrons means exactly in this case? It could literally be 51%. Now idk how this dev's tier system works exactly, but most devs who do patreon polls, have higher tiers in which your vote can count twice as much or even three times as much, which can be significant to change the results. You can subscribe to those tiers if you're especially desperate. Anything would be more proactive than being here and going "oh ye curse those yunguns with their horniness and wanting to see sexy women and sexy clothes". The irony is that those young one's are the one's who have money enough to spare for this, some might even argue they're more successful .

 

[Alley_Cat]

No! This is the moment when Sofia returned home after a walk in the city.

But you keep referring to a "Katie". Her name is Cathy.