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Note I had written the following 2 lines:
"Ordered in rough order of likelihood from highest first to lowest last." and
"But the first 7 girls and first 3 boys I see as (eventually) likely across 4-5+ routes"
i.e. I had already said that Amber and then Marie were least likely of the choices that I wanted to see happen.
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Uh Patricia had already warned her of safety and given the pepper spray so yes she had been warned. So you walk down and see a bad situation. Do you stay? No you haul your ass out of Dodge. Was that a choice? Nope! It was L&P choice to do it that way. I would have done a Taxi. She could have even set that up before she left Claire's. I imagine Claire would not have had an issue keeping a paying client safe.
I always love how you resort to the it was "MY" choice thing. No it is not. All the story, good and bad is L&P's choices. If you want to read a novel do you skip chapters randomly. I am pretty sure you would miss a few ideas from the Bard or Mr Tolstoy. In this case if you take certain paths L&P takes other paths away from you. It is his choice. Not mine, not yours! So stop with that Trope it was "My" choice. I am commenting on his realism and how he forces issues vice taking the time to create the logic of the story. It is his fail. I have no problem saying he is a skilled artist and he has done some great work. However, I also have no problem saying he screwed up. Apparently you do. Why is that?
Damn Biker Bar!
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Don't answer. Just a rhetorical question. Are you healthy and in your thirties?
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But this isn't a plain book! it is a choice based adult visual novel. L&P has the ultimate choice in deciding what to offer us, and he did offer us a choice in this case. Each and every player of this game has a choice - either go with a car or via the subway. It's a choice just like any other choice in this game. If you don't want to lose any render L&P made, just play all choices in several playthroughs (or use unren). No one is forcing you to choose the subway. If you feel it's stupid and unrealistic, just click the other option.
This whole debate reminds me of some extreme ntr haters, which never plays a game with ntr, even if it's absolutely avoidable, just because it's there...
And about the game being realistic - because it's an adult VN featuring many fetishes, including incest in the course of 30 days, it's quite obvious it isn't going to be realistic. As almost everything, realism is relative and this VN is relatively more realistic than most (if not all) incest games/VNs here, at least in my opinion.
ask KillJoys , he runs the AWAM Beta Testing Program.
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His claim was class and realism. Therefore, he can get called on it any time he fails and praised any time he succeeds. All the choices and results are his. None of us wrote the story. We are in his realm. If you think that your choice is actually your choice you are sadly mistaken. Were you/we given the choice to avoid the subway and take a taxi. NOPE! Whose choice was that. It was L&P to drive the narrative he wanted. It is simple if you "Open you mind. Open you mind Quaid". Endex
Damn Biker Bar
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But there was a choice to avoid the subway scene. It could even be ended quick if people chose to go that route. Don't blame L&P if you chose all the choices that led you to the point there. That's all a you problem. If you failed to recognize those choices which happened much earlier in the game, that responsibility lays squarely upon your own shoulders. Go read the walkthrough if you need to know where those specific choices are.
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This is why we need faster releases. We get bored and bad things happen. Some of us fiddle with our avatars while others get into endless debates over nuances to the story that sometimes rival L&P's own efforts. The crux of the problem is the same, we're bored and need our fix.
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Please continue fiddling with your avatar! Totally acceptable. Thank you
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We know if the second part of the sophie/sam we will be more easy to so for L&P?you know not a bar with 18 people
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She warned her about roaming on those streets not the subway station. On a bad day nothing is safe, Even ones own house.
What bad situation did she see. Could she foretell that the subway is empty at a reasonable hour or that she will he attacked. When she enters the subway she too is surprised at how empty it is. Giving you the impression that it was not the case in her previous city. If I move to a new city and decide to take the subway I would consider using it based on my experience with the transport in the previous city, not automatically assume that I going to get attacked.
It's just like how as an audience of a horror movie when you see MC go down the cellar of his own house when he hears a noise, most people call him dumb or and idiot not considering that they as an audience are aware there is actual danger not the MC. Hence most people call it unrealistic not stopping to think that it would be logical thing for the MC to do.
As for the option of the taxi, why not also have an option of calling Liam to come pick her up. If he can't then Carl or Patricia. Then an option to directly take the bus and also an option of Claire considering to drop Sophia home as she is concerned for her safety and of course we have the option of her taking her own car. Let's have 200 renders of Sophia having realistic options to go home because In a real world she definitely would.
Because until L&P gives us every choice possible in the world for the situation it isn't realistic and it is basically his choice not mine.
He should have also given a choice for the way Sophia is dressed for the "Damn Biker Bar" as I and many others find it unrealistic.
If we sit down to pick apart the scenes and try to provide solutions for every situation in the game, there will hardly be a scene left. For god's sake there are solutions to every Saw Movie Trap. So what would you say, that was unrealistic as well because all of those had a solution to them, a way to avoid their deaths and it didn't occur to the people. If things don't happen the way that they do there is no story to tell.
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