Sabertooth__

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Lmao the lenghts this guy goes to justify unrealism in a 3D VN.
It's hilarious.

The picture someone posted there. A full class and no one looks behind when the teacher goes Aiden? Seriously? She raises her skirt, no one saw.
Upskirt, no one talks. Yeah right.
"More than 90% secret stuff never left the students circle". That's what you think. Teachers just don't approach those things back with students. If some crazy hot teacher is flashing her students it will of course be reported. If she dresses in provocative outfits, it will obviously be reported.
Obviously this is a 3D vn that needs to have erotism so we suspend reality a bit to move one, but claiming this is realistic is idiotic.
I am not saying that "NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT" and neither does the game emphasize that no one talks. If anything quite the contrary is potrayed in the scene but it is already an established fact on this thread that you don't know how to read what is written.

There is difference between intentional flashing and accidental flashing. For the students that was accidental. If your maturity is on the same level as the apostles go run around the school telling everyone what you saw. Because that is the logical thing in your eyes. Tell the teaching staff, tell your parents, file a complaint for indecent behaviour over an accidental upskirt.

To me from a logical point of view these things are talked about with only on your close friends. The whole class is never one group. Each group never consists of all friends you talk perverse stuff with. There are a select few.

But really who I am trying to reason with over here. An established troll. So have your fun. I'm not arguing any further. If you think this is 100% unrealistic, DROP THE ROUTE. Sweet and Simple.
 
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Oh fuck, I liked the game even with the lack sex, but if the development is that slow I might drop it. It's pretty weird since I am checking the patreon now and the dev has a decent amount of support.
Patience is a virtue. You will be tested here. Also suspension of belief. Just a consideration.
 

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Although I don't like his often aggressive and condescending demeanor, I would agree with ViperDonkey here. A one-off event might not spread very widely within the school. But we are talking about a teacher who already attracts a lot of attention by her appearance and becomes too wet a dream for some students. If she dresses provocatively and shows her underwear it will not stay within the class but will spread like wildfire, maybe not through the whole school but beyond the class. And the teachers will definitely hear such rumors, but not immediately, but sooner or later.
And if you read the past few messages of mine you will see, I acknowledge that talks will happen outside of class. Ofcourse it will. The scenes itself emphasize on the fact that the students are stumped. They talk amongst themselves. Sophia thinks that they are definitely going to talk about her after class. It is there. Sooner or later even the staff will find out. But a mere accidental flash is not going to create such controversy that the whole school will know. It will take time.

Regular occurrences like this will actually get everyone's attention and finally get the staff talking about it. And later will come the principal. Calling this completely unrealistic right of the bat, because it has not been reported immediately is just nothing but picking on things unnecessarily. Things don't spread the way Viper thinks, in an instant
 

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I am not saying that "NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT" and neither does the game emphasize that no one talks. If anything quite the contrary is potrayed in the scene but it is already an established fact on this thread that you don't know how to read what is written.

There is difference between intentional flashing and accidental flashing. For the students that was accidental. If your maturity is on the same level as the apostles go run around the school telling everyone what you saw. Because that is the logical thing in your eyes. Tell the teaching staff, tell your parents, file a complaint for indecent behaviour over an accidental upskirt.

To me from a logical point of view these things are talked about with only on your close friends. The whole class is never one group. Each group never consists of all friends you talk perverse stuff with. There are a select few.

But really who I am trying to reason with over here. An established troll. So have your fun. I'm not arguing any further. If you think this is 100% unrealistic, DROP THE ROUTE. Sweet and Simple.
It's as realistic as a superbowl saturday ;)

Anyways, you learn nothing even after getting schooled for months now on several topics by the "established troll"..
Keep lying (just like when you lied about dev GPUS) and contradicting yourself (Just like when you said batch rendering wasnt good without even knowing what it was, which you admitted you did not know). Several people in this topic have been shifting opinions and now have the same opinion as I do regarding L&P, maybe I'm a very good troll and I'm deceiving them all or maybe, just maybe, they stopped what you're doing, which is to blindly defend L&P on anything he does.

The only thing you're good at is labeling a post with trolling and then reporting it.
 

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And if you read the past few messages of mine you will see, I acknowledge that talks will happen outside of class. Ofcourse it will. The scenes itself emphasize on the fact that the students are stumped. They talk amongst themselves. Sophia thinks that they are definitely going to talk about her after class. It is there. Sooner or later even the staff will find out. But a mere accidental flash is not going to create such controversy that the whole school will know. It will take time.

Regular occurrences like this will actually get everyone's attention and finally get the staff talking about it. And later will come the principal. Calling this completely unrealistic right of the bat, because it has not been reported immediately is just nothing but picking on things unnecessarily. Things don't spread the way Viper thinks, in an instant
She's the hot new teacher, mother of a student who every boy has now a crush on. I'm fine with it in the story, as again, I don't think this story has to be 100% realistic - but then again I don't bring "immersion" to this topic when it suits me and forget about it when it suits someone else, and like I said previously, it's necessary so the erotism goes on but this isn't realistic at all.

But for people who for instance, care about grass detail so they can feel immersed, I do wonder how plot holes /story inconsistencies /lack of logic/lack realism doesn't break their immersion.
 

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And so you are going to post about it repetitively, ad infinitum.....
:(
Only if I'm not too busy. I stopped, for a while but it only goes to show how many of us are obsessed with Sophia's breasts, one way or another, because I started again. Maybe the New Year will be different. Maybe we'll get more updates, intrigue, beautiful renders, sexy scenarios etc., as in all the things I like about AWAM. Faster updates is what we need but less than one month into the new production schedule, content for the "the festival" doubles the expected/predicted time. Pirate or not, it puts me in a negative criticism mode.

BTW, I'm not the only fan on the forum who's in a rut regarding a particular aspect. We may not ever see the game speed up & at the present rate, never see the end. If we're in for more delays then more communication could be a useful palliative for the Dev & us. It would give everyone more to think & talk about. It happens on several threads but with AWAM, is that likely.....?
 

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It's as realistic as a superbowl saturday ;)

Anyways, you learn nothing even after getting schooled for months now on several topics by the "established troll"..
Keep lying (just like when you lied about dev GPUS) and contradicting yourself (Just like when you said batch rendering wasnt good without even knowing what it was, which you admitted you did not know). Several people in this topic have been shifting opinions and now have the same opinion as I do regarding L&P, maybe I'm a very good troll and I'm deceiving them all or maybe, just maybe, they stopped what you're doing, which is to blindly defend L&P on anything he does.

The only thing you're good at is labeling a post with trolling and then reporting it.
Just like you were caught actually lying about the GPU'st, whereas my statements always used the word assumption, unlike you who was claiming facts.

And just a few days ago you were caught once again manipulating L&P's statement by quoting specific parts of his message and using it to spread hatred against him.
You were caught red handed.
As for being schooled, hope you have finally learned what KINK SHAMING is. I did give you actual material to learn it's meaning and hope you also learnt HOW TO GIVE AN OPINION, or do you want me to teach you that as well.
She's the hot new teacher, mother of a student who every boy has now a crush on. I'm fine with it in the story, as again, I don't think this story has to be 100% realistic - but then again I don't bring "immersion" to this topic when it suits me and forget about it when it suits someone else, and like I said previously, it's necessary so the erotism goes on but this isn't realistic at all.

But for people who for instance, care about grass detail so they can feel immersed, I do wonder how plot holes /story inconsistencies /lack of logic/lack realism doesn't break their immersion.
I don't need you to decide for me what is realistic. Reality can have multiple possibilities, so until is COMPLETELY unrealistic, IT IS REALISTIC, it can happen. Also I am pretty certain I am younger than you. I have still been in actual class environments until recently relating to professional studies, before that College and School. My brother still is in school, coincidentally he is in the same standard this year as Dylan is. So I am well in touch with what happens in an actual class and what goes through teenage boys minds.

Sophia just didn't lift the skirt. She looked around first checked if anyone was looking. When no one was, she lifted her skirt. The show didn't last for hours but mere seconds. An important render that you ignore I must would say.

You can't just say how did someone just cross an extremely busy road without getting hit by a car. Well if they checked that no car was coming in that moment, they can can cross the generally busy road.
 
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Just like you were caught actually lying about the GPU'st, whereas my statements always used the word assumption, unlike you who was claiming facts.

And just a few days ago you were caught once again manipulating L&P's statement by quoting specific parts of his message and using it to spread hatred against him.
You were caught red handed.
As for being schooled, hope you have finally learned what KINK SHAMING is. I did give you actual material to learn it's meaning and hope you also learnt HOW TO GIVE AN OPINION, or do you want me to teach you that as well.
Wrong again, which isn't a surprise coming from you.

I wasn't caught lying about the GPUs. I was actually the one correcting myself. You, on the other hand, were the one caught lying about the nr of GPUs and PC's he had. You were the one saying he had 2 and look at that, only now is he allegedly building the second one for his allegedly special dev. :ROFLMAO:
So your argument goes out the window, once again.

The difference between us is when I say something wrong, I come and correct it while you just shy away and change the topic of the conversation or say its a troll or kink shaming just to report it next. That's what you do, mr "Batch render wont help oh btw I don't know what batch render is".
I present numbers and facts, you only present lies and assumptions. Friendly reminder you were even lying about how much time it took the last development cycle, when it was just a matter of counting the days. You were hoping no one did it and the lie would stick but then the "established troll" came and correct you once again, only for you to divert the topic to something else. Don't worry, we won't forget.


As for the "manipulating L&P's statements". I quoted his statement, and I wasn't the only one understanding it like that because there was at least another member understanding the same as I did and as far as I see, only you and a couple of others believe this dev works 11h a day, which is more than double of the 5 he said on the last post. Poor guy probably forgot he had said 11h /day before.

Also, let me remind you that L&P is the guy that announces some special dev like he is already hired (or on the verge of being hired) and then a few days later things change and he's actually looking for the special dev that will bring us the special part on this/next/the other update (we really don't know when it is, all we know is that is special and we'll specially like it ;) ). Maybe send him an e-mail and tell him to hire someone to write his patron posts, that way no one will be left in confusion by his contradictions.

Everyone knows what kink shaming is. If you feel kink shamed by saying that the MC jacking off two pre-teens/teens in the second meeting they had doesn't fit the story, that's your problem, not mine, because that's what I said, it does not fit the story. Just like other things don't fit the story but for those you don't call it kink shaming. Geez I wonder why, maybe the prejudice is all in your head.

But I understand that the lack of arguments to defend L&P's inconsistencies makes you want to find issues so you can report posts since you have no answer.


I don't need you to decide for me what is realistic. Reality can have multiple possibilities, so until is COMPLETELY unrealistic, IT IS REALISTIC, it can happen. Also I am pretty certain I am younger than you. I have still been in actual class environments until recently relating to professional studies, before that College and School. My brother still is in school, coincidentally he is in the same standard this year as Dylan is. So I am well in touch with what happens in an actual class and what goes through teenage boys minds.
What an idiotic argument. You don't know anything about me and everyone in this forum has been a teenage boy in a classroom before , but okay, I guess you're special just like L&P's supposed new dev.

But since we're talking about realism, how likely it is for a teacher with a solid background as a wife/teacher to jack off 2 teens for a sex lesson (with another one watching), in their home, with their freaky religious mother downstairs? Would you say that it is completely unrealistic?
I'll wait for the back breaking logic on how realistic it is.
 
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Wrong again, which isn't a surprise coming from you.

I wasn't caught lying about the GPUs. I was actually the one correcting myself. You, on the other hand, were the one caught lying about the nr of GPUs and PC's he had. You were the one saying he had 2 and look at that, only now is he allegedly building the second one for his allegedly special dev. :ROFLMAO:
So your argument goes out the window, once again.

The difference between us is when I say something wrong, I come and correct it while you just shy away and change the topic of the conversation or say its a troll or kink shaming just to report it next. That's what you do, mr "Batch render wont help oh btw I don't know what batch render is".
I present numbers and facts, you only present lies and assumptions. Friendly reminder you were even lying about how much time it took the last development cycle, when it was just a matter of counting the days. You were hoping no one did it and the lie would stick but then the "established troll" came and correct you once again, only for you to divert the topic to something else. Don't worry, we won't forget.


As for the "manipulating L&P's statements". I quoted his statement, and I wasn't the only one understanding it like that because there was at least another member understanding the same as I did and as far as I see, only you and a couple of others believe this dev works 11h a day, which is more than double of the 5 he said on the last post. Poor guy probably forgot he had said 11h /day before.

Also, let me remind you that L&P is the guy that announces some special dev like he is already hired (or on the verge of being hired) and then a few days later things change and he's actually looking for the special dev that will bring us the special part on this/next/the other update (we really don't know when it is, all we know is that is special and we'll specially like it ;) ). Maybe send him an e-mail and tell him to hire someone to write his patron posts, that way no one will be left in confusion by his contradictions.

Everyone knows what kink shaming is. If you feel kink shamed by saying that the MC jacking off two pre-teens/teens in the second meeting they had doesn't fit the story, that's your problem, not mine, because that's what I said, it does not fit the story. Just like other things don't fit the story but for those you don't call it kink shaming. Geez I wonder why, maybe the prejudice is all in your head.

But I understand that the lack of arguments to defend L&P's inconsistencies makes you want to find issues so you can report posts since you have no answer.




What an idiotic argument. You don't know anything about me and everyone in this forum has been a teenage boy in a classroom before , but okay, I guess you're special just like L&P's supposed new dev.

But since we're talking about realism, how likely it is for a teacher with a solid background as a wife/teacher to jack off 2 teens for a sex lesson (with another one watching), in their home, with their freaky religious mother downstairs? Would you say that it is completely unrealistic?
I'll wait for the back breaking logic on how realistic it is.
The whole Debate then I used the word the word assumption and my opinion not like you claiming FACTS which were wrong. There was difference between what you and I did.

Again you don't lie, you correct yourself. Others lie. What am I talking to a five year old. Certainly looks like it.

You would like to go back and check the past 100 messages of mine. And see that I have actually used facts and pictures, statements, dialogues, everything concrete to prove my point. But you are so lost in your fantasy, you don't seem to realise it.
And One again this is a lie from you.

I counted the days of development correctly. It is 4 months 15 days. And I remember being the one correcting you. You love to go back and search messages. So if it was not deleted. I would like to bring out the message where I said a lie about the development cycle and said a false number about the length of the cycle of development for v0.150.

Nobody but you started it. And I know exactly who you are talking about. All I will say to you is. If you have any idea of the English language then your interpretation was absolute GARBAGE. He was talking about his time off between working on updates and how he still is associated with his project for 4-5 hours. The message from L&P will still be there and anyone who wants can go read it himself

"Everyone knows what kink Shaming is" :ROFLMAO:
I know a ViperDonkey who didn't know. You didn't say it didn't fit, you used it as a derogatory remark at L&P and his game numerous times and that is kink Shaming.

Seems like all that work I put into teaching you went to waste afterall.


As for realistic, how many women do you know who were in the same situation as Sophia in the scene. How many books on human psychology have you read to decide that no educated woman would do it. Then just like I would say No educated woman will help someone to be confident about their sexuality by having sensory play them. No educated woman will let her children make sexual advance on her. No educated woman will kiss her sister for a stupid bet.

You can't tell, what a person can do. Even the most educated people sometimes are found doing stuff no expects them to. My thoughts on the 2nd side job are known on This thread. I have mentioned its flaws and if only you could understand English, you would have already known.

The word hired was never in his message. He just said that he has contacted a few and is awaiting their reply.

A classic example of you trying to manipulate a person's words and then try and to prove your point.

I have nothing more to say. It's new year and i don't want to spoil the thread. And hence this is Full Stop from my side.

Hope you have an nice New Year and you can move on from a dev who you hate and who Hates you, and from a game that it stupid to you to a game you can genuinely enjoy without having a guilty conscience.
 
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This argument is about the task when she had to lift her skirt, right?

Obviously the odds that other students wouldn't notice isn't realistic. They don't have their heads down doing work the entire class. They'd look around, especially boys when a hot teacher walks past them. I remember a substitute teacher in HS, she usually wore tops that showed cleavage. Boys often tried to look down her top, and other students noticed them. Female students do the same with attractive male teachers. Teenagers are perverted, it's part of being a teenager.

And regardless of the students being in friend groups, every student in the school would know about it within a few days. Friend groups can overlap, students overhear things, social media etc. This is how 99% of rumors start. Someone learns about something they weren't supposed to know about and tell others about it.

The same applies to an accidental flash. Everyone in the school would know about it. I remember knowing things about other people in HS and I'd never even met them before. When she bent over and flashed the entire class, or spread her legs when she was sitting on the desk so they could see. 10000% that every student in that school knows about it.
 

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I just want to add this little thing. A visual evidence of what I am saying.

She checked before doing it and and the skirt lifting only lasted a few seconds. Pretty easy to pass, if you have made sure that no one is looking.

It was not like L&P ignored the part that some students could be looking over. He used this scene to show that no one was.
If people are just going to ignore certain Renders and lines to facilitate what they say then it is not the scenes fault but the person's failure in interpreting what is happening on screen.

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It is after this that she lifts her skirt for a few seconds. I have no issues and I see no problem.

Also the part that the students will be talking about Sophia has been addressed. Things take time to spread. Eventually everyone will be aware of what is happening in the class but something so trivial as an accidental upskirt creating a ruckus to the point where everyone in the whole building knows it on the same day is literally a stupid belief to me.

Edit - Also Apparently the students got accustomed to this style and weren't distracted anymore during the second half. Even after the upskirt unlike some people on the thread who just couldn't get over the fact that she wore such a dress and couldn't control their excitement that they saw an upskirt and it should be reported to every single person in the building on the Same Day.

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The biggest problem is people create their own reality here. Even if a matter has been addressed in the novel they will ignore it to create their own version and then say that what happens in the novel is unrealistic. The students aren't as immature. Just an accidental upskirt doesn't get them as riled up. But for some here the very idea that the students aren't going crazy over an upskirt in class is absurd.
 
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I counted the days of development correctly. It is 4 months 15 days. And I remember being the one correcting you. You love to go back and search messages. So if it was not deleted. I would like to bring out the message where I said a lie about the development cycle and said a false number about the length of the cycle of development for v0.150.
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There you have it.
Sabertooth caught in another one of his lies. Like I said previously, I was the one correcting you. And you were absolutely lowballing the number. Truth is between updates it was from June 15. Just because he's on vacations, it doesn't mean it shouldnt count.


"Everyone knows what kink Shaming is" :ROFLMAO:
I know a ViperDonkey who didn't know. You didn't say it didn't fit, you used it as a derogatory remark at L&P and his game numerous times and that is kink Shaming.

Seems like all that work I put into teaching you went to waste afterall.
If you think that saying what happened which was "L&P put Sophia jacking off 2 teens and that storyline advanced way fucking quickly and it didnt fit the story" is making a derrogatory remark, then you're the one with prejudice in your head. Maybe the kink shamer is you :/



The word hired was never in his message. He just said that he has contacted a few and is awaiting their reply.

A classic example of you trying to manipulate a person's words and then try and to prove your point.

I have nothing more to say. It's new year and i don't want to spoil the thread. And hence this is Full Stop from my side.

Hope you have an nice New Year and you can move on from a dev who you hate and who Hates you, and from a game that it stupid to you to a game you can genuinely enjoy without having a guilty conscience.
The "word" hired was never in his message, then what was that? An announcement of an announcement? Is it this update or the next? He was also confused by it. Is the dev special or not? We're all waiting on those answers.
Or maybe, just maybe, was just another L&P announcement that'll never happen, just like his patreon promises.

As for realistic, how many women do you know who were in the same situation as Sophia in the scene. How many books on human psychology have you read to decide that no educated woman would do it. Then just like I would say No educated woman will help someone to be confident about their sexuality by having sensory play them. No educated woman will let her children make sexual advance on her. No educated woman will kiss her sister for a stupid bet.

You can't tell, what a person can do. Even the most educated people sometimes are found doing stuff no expects them to. My thoughts on the 2nd side job are known on This thread. I have mentioned its flaws and if only you could understand English, you would have already known.

The word hired was never in his message. He just said that he has contacted a few and is awaiting their reply.

A classic example of you trying to manipulate a person's words and then try and to prove your point.
Thank you for that statement. Seriously. By not telling us good people here, with an actual brain, that a suposedly educated, well-respected women would go on a 2nd class at the home of another woman and jack off her 2 very young looking kids, believing the shitty "its just for a sexual education lesson" excuse, you show us all what you're doing here: stan for L&P no matter what his choices are.
 
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AHAHAH
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There you have it.
Sabertooth caught in another one of his lies.
If you remember the chart that was used for calculating the update cycle you would know what date was used and accepted widely on this thread.
Also I am not a patron but I do remember him mentioning that he will start his work on Monday which was the 5th of July. Any patron can go and read the message right now.

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And once again proved with FACTS what a big liar and manipulator of facts you are. Even though I am certain you have that patron message saved, you deliberately ignored it.

Rest of the facts you mentioned in your edited message I have already answered.
And won't do it again.


Also lastly thankyou to Talcum Powder for making these graphs.
 

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This argument is about the task when she had to lift her skirt, right?

Obviously the odds that other students wouldn't notice isn't realistic. They don't have their heads down doing work the entire class. They'd look around, especially boys when a hot teacher walks past them. I remember a substitute teacher in HS, she usually wore tops that showed cleavage. Boys often tried to look down her top, and other students noticed them. Female students do the same with attractive male teachers. Teenagers are perverted, it's part of being a teenager.

And regardless of the students being in friend groups, every student in the school would know about it within a few days. Friend groups can overlap, students overhear things, social media etc. This is how 99% of rumors start. Someone learns about something they weren't supposed to know about and tell others about it.

The same applies to an accidental flash. Everyone in the school would know about it. I remember knowing things about other people in HS and I'd never even met them before. When she bent over and flashed the entire class, or spread her legs when she was sitting on the desk so they could see. 10000% that every student in that school knows about it.
No dude, stop being logical. This isn't the place for that. Sabertooth_ is the only person here who was a teenage boy once.

Quite funny he keeps banging on that scene with a massive post when I've already said this:
She's the hot new teacher, mother of a student who every boy has now a crush on. I'm fine with it in the story, as again, I don't think this story has to be 100% realistic - but then again I don't bring "immersion" to this topic when it suits me and forget about it when it suits someone else, and like I said previously, it's necessary so the erotism goes on but this isn't realistic at all.

But for people who for instance, care about grass detail so they can feel immersed, I do wonder how plot holes /story inconsistencies /lack of logic/lack realism doesn't break their immersion.
but I guess his interpretation is as good as he says mine is.
 
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