Sabertooth__

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Estimates vary between 3-5 years but the way I work it out, based on current output, it's 5 years away. PD16 actually appearing is not something I'd like to give odds on in RL but off the cuff I'm thinking 50/1. (Seems fair to me at least). What I'm 90+% certain about is that the Dev will do nothing about it either way, those odds are 1/1. If PD16 happens, I wonder how many current fans will still be following & how many will still be enraptured by single event-based updates taking 2 years to complete each AWAM PD? Now, cue chorus of "why so much negativity on the thread?", to which I reply, it's NOT negativity, just the facts as they currently stand. I look forward to any genuine fact-based estimates which prove a faster schedule is credible, possible, practical & not just wishful thinking. Any real evidence, gratefully accepted. [NB that's "fact-based" not 'I think he'll hire a team.']
Two years is still pretty harsh. As if now it is close to 1 and half year for this day. The next two days seem hopeful to me. Since we already know the event list for the next day and it has only 7 proper scenes unlike this day's 12-13 proper scenes. But we have to keep in mind this is a provisional list of events for PD 14. So he might just add a few events who knows.

Then PD 15 is also a massive Ranch event with one or two more additional events. That day too can't be 2000+ renders. There is a limit to how far L&P will go by PD 15 in terms of sexual content. So i believe the ranch can be close to 900-1000 renders which would still make this day half the size of the PD 12.

We might get to PD 16. But what is scary is that PD 16 might be way too massive. Since L&P has hyped that day up and also said that the wild event will be massive in itself. Let alone we have a lesbian sex scene, two hetero sex scene. Aiden's task, Dylan Ellie storyline's culmination too. It might easily take 2 years just for PD 16 events.
 

palmtrees89

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Just a little reminder.

We're now exactly at the 1 month mark since 0.161 was being released. It's probably gonna be a ~40 day development cycle again.

Just felt like pointing something out: Last update, some people said it took so long to create 140 renders because of the sheer amount of characters used in the scene. So, theoretically, since this update has likely only 2 characters with screen-time, it's either gonna be way more than 140 renders, or something unexpected which took more time to create.

I highly doubt this update will have more than 140 renders, and if none of the above is actually gonna be the case, it would mean he's gotten even slower, right? Can't wait for possible explanations from the usual suspects. ;)

I'm just saying this because some people here recently act like L&P's become "fast" for whatever reason.

Fingers crossed I guess?
 

ToshinRaizen

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Just a little reminder.

We're now exactly at the 1 month mark since 0.161 was being released. It's probably gonna be a ~40 day development cycle again.

Just felt like pointing something out: Last update, some people said it took so long to create 140 renders because of the sheer amount of characters used in the scene. So, theoretically, since this update has likely only 2 characters with screen-time, it's either gonna be way more than 140 renders, or something unexpected which took more time to create.

I highly doubt this update will have more than 140 renders, and if none of the above is actually gonna be the case, it would mean he's gotten even slower, right? Can't wait for possible explanations from the usual suspects. ;)

I'm just saying this because some people here recently act like he's become "fast" for whatever reason.

Fingers crossed I guess?
more time more moola...
 

hzjujk

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Just a little reminder.

We're now exactly at the 1 month mark since 0.161 was being released. It's probably gonna be a ~40 day development cycle again.

Just felt like pointing something out: Last update, some people said it took so long to create 140 renders because of the sheer amount of characters used in the scene. So, theoretically, since this update has likely only 2 characters with screen-time, it's either gonna be way more than 140 renders, or something unexpected which took more time to create.

I highly doubt this update will have more than 140 renders, and if none of the above is actually gonna be the case, it would mean he's gotten even slower, right? Can't wait for possible explanations from the usual suspects. ;)

I'm just saying this because some people here recently act like L&P's become "fast" for whatever reason.

Fingers crossed I guess?
You are rushing because of an assumption. You know nothing about the actual number of images.
Most of the "usual suspects" have always wanted L&P to work faster, but have pointed out that L&P works continuously according to them.
Now the continuity of his work is only assessable on a large scale - over years. All we can prove is that L&P is still developing the game. The crystal ball readers have already predicted years ago that the development will soon stop.
Whether on the other hand the progress bar is pure fake and L&P of the last 30 days has lain 28 days on the beach on Bali with my money and has updated only the progress or whether he has worked only 2 hours or 8 hours a day I cannot prove or you not the opposite.
You wanted and hoped for an answer - you got it. Am I now one of the "usual suspects"? :devilish:
 

palmtrees89

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You are rushing because of an assumption. You know nothing about the actual number of images.
Most of the "usual suspects" have always wanted L&P to work faster, but have pointed out that L&P works continuously according to them.
Now the continuity of his work is only assessable on a large scale - over years. All we can prove is that L&P is still developing the game. The crystal ball readers have already predicted years ago that the development will soon stop.
Whether on the other hand the progress bar is pure fake and L&P of the last 30 days has lain 28 days on the beach on Bali with my money and has updated only the progress or whether he has worked only 2 hours or 8 hours a day I cannot prove or you not the opposite.
You wanted and hoped for an answer - you got it. Am I now one of the "usual suspects"? :devilish:
Well, I didn't say I know the actual render count for the next update. I was just pointing out that IF it's in the same ballpark as the previous one while taking the same amount of time, statements from people who said his "speed" from 0.161 was caused by the amount of characters during the scene don't make much sense. So what I'm saying is just that, according to their logic, this update should have way more renders and/or something else causing it to take the same amount of time. And if that's not the case, and the render count is still gonna be around 140 or less, then that simply means he's become even slower, which is the opposite of what some people recently said about L&P's development speed.

There's not much of an assumption in my previous post, just pointing out some facts and the flawed logic of some members.

Yes, you certainly are one of those usual suspects. :p
 

Mr goose

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Well, I didn't say I know the actual render count for the next update. I was just pointing out that IF it's in the same ballpark as the previous one while taking the same amount of time, statements from people who said his "speed" from 0.161 was caused by the amount of characters during the scene don't make much sense. So what I'm saying is just that, according to their logic, this update should have way more renders and/or something else causing it to take the same amount of time. And if that's not the case, and the render count is still gonna be around 140 or less, then that simply means he's become even slower, which is the opposite of what some people recently said about L&P's development speed.

There's not much of an assumption in my previous post, just pointing out some facts and the flawed logic of some members.

Yes, you certainly are one of those usual suspects. :p
L&P got slower, I can't believe it.
 

DarkMask

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Hiring a coder would save so much time and allow L&P to focus on his strength, which is creating/rendering scenes. It's not like it would be that expensive and I'm sure there are fans who would even do it for free if it meant a faster release cycle.

Does anyone have the breakdown for how long each section of L&P process takes?
 
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armion82

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I agree with you,
the development of the plot and the various branches that increase the number of combinations,
the fact that animations will be greater,
L & P's personal needs will lead to an increasingly slow and prolonged development.
I am also of the idea that the game will have no end
I doubt many will see the sex scenes they are waiting for.
After all he practically is putting all sex scenes in the last third of the game-10+ years away from now.
Each of the last 10 days should have 3-4 sex scenes.
Unless most characters are just red herring and there is no plan at all for a sex scenes with them.
 
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Bibifoc

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Hiring a coder would save so much time and allow L&P to focus on his strength, which is creating/rendering scenes. It's not like it would be that expensive and I'm sure there are fans who would even do it for free if it meant a faster release cycle.

Does anyone have the breakdown for how long each section of L&P process takes?
"Save so much time"... in a classic VN where 95% of the time is spent on rendering and translation :unsure:
 

drax 4998

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Can anyone tell me why Sophie did everything that Aiden say
How Aiden blackmail her
Or he just threaten her by use her son name???
 

kristo0086

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Damn how to transfer this final save? At the end of part 1 , no final save is generated , the game simply ends with the main character and her husband falling asleep .
 

palmtrees89

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Hiring a coder would save so much time and allow L&P to focus on his strength, which is creating/rendering scenes. It's not like it would be that expensive and I'm sure there are fans who would even do it for free if it meant a faster release cycle.

Does anyone have the breakdown for how long each section of L&P process takes?
The programming/translation part only takes a couple days at most with event-based updates. That really isn't the problem with this project, and L&P does have help with that already.

"Save so much time"... in a classic VN where 95% of the time is spent on rendering and translation :unsure:
It's all your fault. :giggle:
 

Bibifoc

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Damn how to transfer this final save? At the end of part 1 , no final save is generated , the game simply ends with the main character and her husband falling asleep .
Your AWAM1 isn't up to date. Look at here.
Where did you download your Part 1 by the way?
 
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