Whitekink

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Pardon me, but that is an Äpfel und Birnen (apples and pears) post!
Yes, practically every thread has the guys who cry "milking" if there are two days without news. BUT that is not the case here, while you find these specialists here too, the MAJORITY of those who accuse L&P of milking are longterm fans and former patrons of him.
I am a hobbywriter and since I know intimately the problems when you do something creative, I am very, very careful in giving out the "milker" tag. In fact, there is only a handful of games on F95 where I would give the "milker" to it. AWAM deservedly is one of those few!
L&P is a proven liar, full of comtempt for his fans as well and development speed is abyssally bad and slow even for a single dev game. Nobody with just a single active braincell can believe that AWAM will get completed. L&P´s strategy is clearly the old, but proven "a sucker is born every minute".
I was making a general statement, not a personal one to you or anyone else, about several games available and the similarity of the comments pertaining to each on their forum. I am at a loss as to the 'apples and pears' comment. They are different games, I agree, but all of the same genre.

I did not go into the detail of each complainer and whether they were long term patrons or not, as I said, it was a general statement, trying to make the point that a random choice of forums brings up similar comments, nothing else.

If you believe this Dev is one of the few who deserve the term 'milking' etc., that is your opinion and I might or might not agree with you.
 

SuperPerv96

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Sophia is attracted to Sam - her young Springsteen. This update should progress things to the next level between them - nipple sucking, petting, & maybe, maybe some oral.
You can save my words, theres not going to be nothing Major between Sam and Sophia in the next update (0.175) They are going to talk about what happen, Sophia will tell Sam that it was totally wrong, thats shes married with childs, and that she is way too old for him, and that its wrong, and Sam it's going to tell her that its okay, that he has loved her since he was a kid, that he cant forget what happened, and that she has to accept that she liked it and it felt good, then at the end, Sam its going to steal some kisses from Sophia and then maybe grope her over the clothes and thats it
 

FullyAnimated

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You can save my words, theres not going to be nothing Major between Sam and Sophia in the next update (0.175) They are going to talk about what happen, Sophia will tell Sam that it was totally wrong, thats shes married with childs, and that she is way too old for him, and that its wrong, and Sam it's going to tell her that its okay, that he has loved her since he was a kid, that he cant forget what happened, and that she has to accept that she liked it and it felt good, then at the end, Sam its going to steal some kisses from Sophia and then maybe grope her over the clothes and thats it
L&P said this update between will be hotter than the hot tub. So we shall see.
 

SuperPerv96

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L&P said this update between will be hotter than the hot tub. So we shall see.
Oh really? didint knew that, well then at most i think nipple sucking, but i dont thinks theres going to be any oral, because if he get thing too sexual this early in the game (Day 13 out of 30 playable days) then LP says that the game will be Boring
 

davsun

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I don't understand why people are so annoying with L&P, patrons don't own it, they give him money because they want to, the truth is that L&P is the only owner of the game, and everyone knows the guy is a perfectionist he never does what the patrons say, he never listens to what they say, even so they keep sponsoring him, he will spend 10 years making this game and you will stay here whining... funny
 

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davsun

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I don't believe L&P is doing this for money, to me he's just a passionate artist, if he wanted money, AWAM should have been completed a long time ago and he should be making other games. For example, the creators of the Genesis Order game, they have 14000 patrons, just on patreon. They've made a lot of games, they update games with a lot of content and really fast, they really make good money. Like I said L&P doesn't care about money he does AWAM for love, he loves Sophia very much and is probably jealous of her so he will be making this game for 10+ years! lol
 

Ryan Starc

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You said you have applied the patch from here. What did you do if you don't have any final_export.rpy in your game folder? (When I say "game folder", I talk about the folder named "game" in your AWAM1 folder).

Or you could try a new install. I have reuploaded a compressed and fixed version here for Mac (reusing JokerLeader compressed version).
This worked with no errors... thanks a lot.
 
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I don't believe L&P is doing this for money, to me he's just a passionate artist, if he wanted money, AWAM should have been completed a long time ago and he should be making other games. For example, the creators of the Genesis Order game, they have 14000 patrons, just on patreon. They've made a lot of games, they update games with a lot of content and really fast, they really make good money. Like I said L&P doesn't care about money he does AWAM for love, he loves Sophia very much and is probably jealous of her so he will be making this game for 10+ years! lol
their game next update becomes half done while l&p rests after each update
 

Lukereds

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You can't justifiably defend this.

"But but freetime"

If he wanted to use his free time in this manner and he REALLY wanted to make the people that follow his game happy he would use said free time to speed up the development of future updates.
It's really simple: he wants change and add something because the storyline wasn't written in the reality.
The justification is to remake the renders, the reality is another one above....
 

Alley_Cat

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No answer yet but Luis&Passion is getting ratio'ed on his own patreon page.

And perhaps counterintuitively, I'm more protective of the work of devs that do share their asset lists. There's a few devs I've started supporting that have started sharing the asset lists for their characters. I know some of the location assets and have used them in fan art, but wont share what they are, because the dev will release that in their own time.

Take Free Pass as an example. That dev freely shares the asset list of their characters here, and has a recently released update that will likely eventually get a public release here. I've already played it, and could release it here, but wont. The release took longer than we would have liked, but when we heard what personal troubles they were going through, most of us financial supporters responded with things along the lines of "Sorry to hear that, don't rush with the update, we can wait, get your personal stuff sorted out first".

Whereas as soon as I found the asset to the bathroom Jules has a shower in from the Dylan/Amber event, I hopped on the fan art thread here and told everyone what it was.
 
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