VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[jonnybravo11]

After the last HOT update of sam, this garbage update

someone posted lp reasoning for it
it has more fun than this event

 

[SubtleHustle]

is this update worth it or do i wait for the next big one?

How's your health? Are your ancestors known for their longevity? Any centenarians?

 

[Alley_Cat]

How's your health? Are your ancestors known for their longevity? Any centenarians?

Wait, when for you is the next update worth downloading?

 

[lockerxx]

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[davsun]

Christine Watson release is out today... inspired on AWAM but much better, the dev has 100 patrons only, I believe his game has more potential to become something more atrative to thw public soon than AWAM, L&P has delaying his history to make money not for his patrons, this guy baap deserve more patrons... if you dont know the game just check it Christine Watson

 

[SubtleHustle]

Wait, when for you is the next update worth downloading?

I'm not picky on the particulars. But it is going to have to be raunchy.

And while I'm thinking about it, all this build-up and hype is going to do nothing but be a let down for people when "it" happens. What "it" is doesn't matter. The quality of any "it" is hardly worth this much expense. Worth some but not this much. Idealization is not good. You build up an ideal(lover, situation, job, home, vacation spot, etc.) long enough and nothing will ever live up to the ideal. It's like falling in love for an expensive car and setting your sights on buying it and afterwards you're like, "that Accord would have been less hassle and still a great car."

Foot Of The Mountain comes to mind. All the grind and BS and the final execution of the first scene everyone was waiting for was phoned in dog shit. I doubt the scene by LP will be dog shit but when the time comes it will likely be Not Good Enough(TM) especially in the time frame that he's working with. It's likely in the near future, tech will be able to completely lift the assets from this game re-render and animate it in photo realistic quality with a bit of effort from a determined individual.

 

[lockerxx]

Christine Watson release is out today... inspired on AWAM but much better, the dev has 100 patrons only, I believe his game has more potential to become something more atrative to thw public soon than AWAM, L&P has delaying his history to make money not for his patrons, this guy baap deserve more patrons... if you dont know the game just check it Christine Watson

meh there are better games: project Myriam,free pass,jessica o´neil, her desire , Love Honor and Betray

 

[Bishop Robert]

meh there are better games: project Myriam,free pass,jessica o´neil, her desire , Love Honor and Betray

Ive been getting annoyed with JOHN especially with going back to these Hscenes with Connor that barely anyone wants or cares about in the first place

 

[supppppbroooo]

Hello lads, I only found in the first page the saves that lead to the end of 0.180 but where can i find a save file that can open the Marie path because mine doesn't lead to it. Thank you

 

[MisterG]

Yes, this is dev an entitled moron. 6 years and really nothing worth playing for a porn game. Only zealots could like this shit.

Well, he's been milking the game for years and making quite some money with it.
I don't think HE is the moron here, to be honest...

 

[MikeOG]

the combined edition is currently up to date ?
like does it have part I and II ?

 

[rAmSiMaL]

I don't understand this. How can you draw the conclusion you're drawing and then decide that you'll only drop support if the next 2 updates take more than 5 months? Either you're disgusted with the development and you can't support it, or you're ok with what's happening and you'll continue to support it. What about supporting this game makes you feel good?

I like the game that's why I'm supporting it. I hate the time it takes though to completion. 1 day 2 years means that the 17 remaining days will take 34 years... if you are 18 you have to wait till you go 52 to finish the game... come on...!!!

 

[multiplex1]

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A Wife and Mother - Combined Edition v0.180

This is a crunched version of A Wife and Mother version 0.180, which includes the complete Part 1. That means you can play the game from the beginning or just import your old save files without any issue. If you don't like the crunched low quality images, you can just put and replace the HQ images from v0.150, 0.160, 0.161, 0.165, 0.170, 0.175, 0.180

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[GingerSweetGirl]

I like the game that's why I'm supporting it. I hate the time it takes though to completion. 1 day 2 years means that the 17 remaining days will take 34 years... if you are 18 you have to wait till you go 52 to finish the game... come on...!!!

But these two points are incongruous. If you like the game and support it, then you are literally giving your approval to the development philosophy. If you think that 34 years is unacceptable, then you shouldn't support this game. And we know that it's not going to get better, and even if L&P accomplishes your threshold of getting the next two updates out in five months...that does nothing to substantially reduce the 34 years required to finish the game.

So I'm just perplexed how you can sit here and hold both positions simultaneously. I supported the game but stopped once I realized how unacceptable the development was. Once it was clear to me there was no sense in continuing my support for another day because I knew that this was not behavior I wanted to encourage.

I don't mean to be a bitch. I just haven't seen someone here who supports the game, but is drawing a line in the sand that we know L&P will cross, and hates the development speed. Usually people are like "Yeah, I support the game. I love it. It'll be done when it's done. Meanwhile I have other things to keep me occupied."

 

[SubtleHustle]

This update may disappoint some, but it demonstrates how Dylan will put her to the test in the next update

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[hmc15]

Is there only two scenes? The ending at Sam's house/room and the hairstylist? Thought there was a yoga scene??

 

[Bishop Robert]

This update may disappoint some, but it demonstrates how Dylan will put her to the test in the next update

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I don't think the next update will be this exactly.

I think it's a bit early for there to be anything for the cuck Dylan route atm.

 

[Frank Chateau]

meh there are better games: project Myriam,free pass,jessica o´neil, her desire , Love Honor and Betray

Her Desire gang checking in. Anyone frustrated by AWAM pace and dev should play Her Desire.

 

[maybes4]

I worked with a lot of projects that involves coding (Mobile, ML, Web, IoT) but never in adult games. The render handling part from what I can tell is done via graphical tools and depends a lot on the skills and experience on the person handling them. Answering all the other your questions: I am pretty sure after 6 years he should be able to choose what's more important to have an update ready. Im not saying he should half ass it.

The problem with this guy is that he claims his game to be an 'erotic', sensual novel. Basically, he finds all adjectives to justify the lack of sexual content (when comparing the time this game has been under development). Although, the game has routes since the early stages that contradicts those explanation, such are the routes with the sexual education, the janitor, the blackmail by the teenagers, routes that are specific to very hardcore porn. Therefore, the game contradicts his own words.

So, assuming he really intends to do an under the radar incest game with high quality, what exactly is high quality? The renders? The story? the sex scenes? the animations? Look, I already said this before, you don't see italians being portrayed as they are, he has no knowledge of how the mafia really works. He literally spent money buying gun 3D models, so a lot of italian guys can show heavy weapons to scare off little kids and small time thugs. If you have any kind of mafia movie knowledge, you know that's not how it works, so you can't say he's looking for realism in the story at least, so we have another contradiction here.

As you see above, perfection doesn't exist and is subjective. Whenever someone says they want to do something perfect is just an excuse to be slow and late, and it is exactly what is going on here. When you ask "But do you agree with me the premise of this project is always its meticulous details?" what details to refer to? If we nitpick more stuff around this game, we'll find a lot of flaws and mistakes. This game does have a very good visual, camera angle, filters and models. But, let's go back to the fabric touching scene, is that really perfection? You may be tempted to argue slow burn, but it isn't.

At this point of the thinking, we can imagine a X and Y graph with a curve where content is X and time is Y. At the middle point of the curve is where he needs to be, beyond that, more updates like this will happen, where time increases and content decreases, therefore turning into an increasing LINE.

As for your third point, I don't really feel you absorbed the entire point. The point being is that everyone releases 1.0a, 1.1b, 1.3c and so forth to fix small mistakes like that, therefore he has many ways to deal with them other spending a massive amount of time to fix them. Even then, you have that game Dreams of Desire that is also about incest, where it didn't even have animations, only two years after the game was completed the developer decided to remaster the game with animations. Take this game for example, you have part 1 where he was learning how to develop basically, now part 2 you have animations too. It looks positive to see that he's improving, but at the same time it shows quality inconsistency, because the simple fact he improved implies quality change, so how much details was there previously?

Thank you for elaboration.
Blue: Erotic, sensual, and hardcore are not mutually exclusive. Even in those hardcore routes, they are still built slowly, not like other cheap porns.
Green: I agree with you that not how mafias are in real life. What confuses everyone here is how LP defines realism. Like real life? Or just realer than other fictional works? Back to the word "high quality", im not an experienced developer, but from a gamers perspective, i think AWAM is high in quality, not in all respects, i know, but in many respects. Renders: Check( i havent seen more stunning games on this web). The story: Not flawless, but is invested much more than cheap ones on the market. Sex scenes: Idk, too few to value. In short, i do think awam is with high quality.
Purple: Yep perfection is illusion. But you know when someone says they wanna perfect a thing, maybe they are just implying they wanna do it as good as possible. And for ur question, the detail im talking about is everything in a render. The characters, stuff, looks far better than they are in other games. Again, i know awam itself is not perfect. So yep, touching fabric scene is stupid. But there couldve been more mistakes if the time had been reduced.
Yellow: I think what is causing the conflict here between LP and his fans is always how they look at AWAM. For his fans, this is a project, business, so he has to produce it more and more quickly, even drop quality. But for him, this is art. He considers himself as a novelist and has the right to be creative. I know this is not quite commensurate but do you know authors or novelists, they never care about the progress pace, they just wanna perform as best as they can, as much as theyre pleased in their works.
So i dont think whos right or wrong here, just different viewpoints.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

But these two points are incongruous. If you like the game and support it, then you are literally giving your approval to the development philosophy. If you think that 34 years is unacceptable, then you shouldn't support this game.

I've been trying to explain the same for years now to all who support him: you are not his motivators, you are his enablers! No money, no honey, stupid!