Alley_Cat

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The fact that you and a few others here are badmouthing Dylan content will certainly not give L&P sleepless nights. Don't forget, Dylan leads in the list of the most popular characters. :D And that, although his content was added quite some time ago. Just think how much his popularity will increase if he catches up with Sam or even overtakes him. :LOL:

Honestly, aren't both Dylan and Sam important to the main story? Sophia/Dylan/Amber/Sam forms an interesting symmetry that allows for plenty of interesting stories. One can only hope that L&P will build on this potential. Just Sophia and Sam, even though I have nothing against Sam, is ultimately a bit boring. The two of them simply have far too few corners and edges to be really the base for an compelling story in the long run. Sam is far too interchangeable and also far too perfect. AWAM needs Dylan to bring more complication into the story. I think the same is true for the Sophia/Dylan/Ellie/Liam combination. Also there, the story gains a lot of possibilities through Dylan. Here, Sam isn't even necessary anymore, as his role is covered by Liam.
There is no main story for Dylan and Sam to be important to. I play neither, but still enjoy playing the Filthy route. You can take or leave any storyline you want, it doesn't matter.
 

VrVic

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Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.
 

Kirill86

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***Breaking News!!*** (hardly)
Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.
I have bad news for you. This happens every month. Patreon on the 1st of the month resets the counter of those who paid for a subscription for 1 month
 

palmtrees89

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***Breaking News!!*** (hardly)
Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.
Rookie mistake. :whistle:
 

Alley_Cat

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***Breaking News!!*** (hardly)
Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.
If you have a look at , you can see there's been a sawtooth pattern to his patron numbers for at least two years now.

What I'm more curious about are the poll numbers. While Dylan might still be in the lead, Ellie, and to a lesser extent Sam are closing in on him. If he doesn't reach 400 votes, then he would have lost fans since the last poll.

If Ellie does manage to take the lead, it will be saying a lot considering the last event on her route was two years ago.
 

palmtrees89

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There is no main story for Dylan and Sam to be important to. I play neither, but still enjoy playing the Filthy route. You can take or leave any storyline you want, it doesn't matter.
Yep, this.

The main story is what the players make of it with their choices. I'd say that's kinda the point of a choice-based VN. Also crazy to me how there's actual Sam vs. Dylan factions. It's...pixels on a computer / phone screen. I mean sure, immersion is a thing, but damn some people act like they are Dylan...or Sam, and Sophia about to climb out of their monitors to suck 'em off or something. lol
 

Alley_Cat

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Yep, this.

The main story is what the players make of it with their choices. I'd say that's kinda the point of a choice-based VN. Also crazy to me how there's actual Sam vs. Dylan factions. It's...pixels on a computer / phone screen. I mean sure, immersion is a thing, but damn some people act like they are Dylan...or Sam, and Sophia about to climb out of their monitors to suck 'em off or something. lol
Especially since whether or not you play a scene or not is entirely optional. I'm still kinda curious whether it will be possible to keep a decent relationship with Liam and still play the Filthy route. Just enough sex that he thinks he's still the one wearing the pants.

Which makes me annoyed the Morello route is required for the Ellie and Patricia routes. It means for my playthrough I'm probably locked out of both the Mr Harris content this update
 
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rAmSiMaL

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Especially since whether or not you play a scene or not is entirely optional. I'm still kinda curious whether it will be possible to keep a decent relationship with Liam and still play the Filthy route. Just enough sex that he thinks he's still the one wearing the pants.

Which makes me annoyed the Morello route is required for the Ellie and Patricia routes. It means for my playthrough I'm probably locked out of both the Mr Harris content this update
In the end it's just a game... If I need to go through specific paths to play the parts I like, I'll do it and just press skip to the scenes I don't want to see to go fast forward. You know you have that option too?
 

Alley_Cat

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In the end it's just a game... If I need to go through specific paths to play the parts I like, I'll do it and just press skip to the scenes I don't want to see to go fast forward. You know you have that option too?
Sure I can TAB or CTRL past the parts I don't like. I did that when I was testing if the Aiden path was required for the Sam route. It's not.

And if there's a scene interesting enough for me to even consider playing the Dylan or Sam route on skip to get to, I'll let you know.
 
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PietruccioTheHilander

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Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.
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PaxHadrian17

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So why AWAM?

I'm not here for the RL experience - I can get that whenever I want, I just need to get up from my keyboard.

I'm here for a light version of porn-world, AWAM rev.

This is Not the Pornhub version (almost all sex, barest hint of a story and Rarely something new).

My version of porn-world, AWAM rev, has:

A good/great engaging story including high quality renders, animations, sound effects and music appropriate to the scenes

Production values that include not just quality of creation but speed of development

Characters I can/do grow to like and root for

A villain(s) to overcome - can't be too over the top - I'm not here for a Dark Souls struggle. The 'villain' can be human, the environment (like a global pandemic...) societal/authoritarian rules etc.

The ability to choose the relationships I want to pursue and not be forced into relationships I don't want, recognizing that others will want 'their' story to be different from mine == and that's fine!

Adult interactions that I choose, and that fit the story and characters I like.

In AWAM, these relationships include:

Sophia/Dylan & Sophia/Sam

Sophia/Ellie, Sophia & Ellie/Julia, Sophia/Patricia, Sophia/Patricia & Ellie, Sophia/Nathalie, Sophia/Emma, Sophia/Marie

Dylan/Ellie, Dylan/Sophia, Dylan/Sophia/Ellie, Dylan/Sophia/Emma, Dylan/Marie, Dylan/Sophia/Marie, Dylan/Sophia/Patricia, Dylan/Amber

Ellie/Julia, Ellie/Christine, Ellie/Emma, Ellie/Marie

My preferred AWAM rev is different than what many others may prefer:

The postman does Not deliver

The shota boys get their education elsewhere

Two old guys get an equally old nurse to bathe them

Bennett and Aiden try to blackmail each other - they both get what they deserve - encounters with their favorite friend -- Ben Dover ... and it's taped by students, released to the public and both disappear in disgrace

Liam is Not an idiot who gambles away his house and has a wife who responds with a 'How Could You' which becomes 'oh well, no big deal' in a few days

Sophia will never be made airtight by some combination of the movers/Bennett/Aiden & his gang/the janitor/the soccer team

I know I will not get my preferred AWAM experience... none of us will, right, but if I am going to dream, why not dream big!

At least my AWAM experience will include some of the above.


Speaking of dreaming big... I'd like my AWAM experience to be completed before I die...
 
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So why AWAM?

I'm not here for the RL experience - I can get that whenever I want, I just need to get up from my keyboard.

I'm here for a light version of porn-world, AWAM rev.

This is Not the Pornhub version (almost all sex, barest hint of a story and Rarely something new).

My version of porn-world, AWAM rev, has:

A good/great engaging story including high quality renders, animations, sound effects and music appropriate to the scenes

Production values that include not just quality of creation but speed of development

Characters I can/do grow to like and root for

A villain(s) to overcome - can't be too over the top - I'm not here for a Dark Souls struggle. The 'villain' can be human, the environment (like a global pandemic...) societal/authoritarian rules etc.

The ability to choose the relationships I want to pursue and not be forced into relationships I don't want, recognizing that others will want 'their' story to be different from mine == and that's fine!

Adult interactions that I choose, and that fit the story and characters I like.

In AWAM, these relationships include:

Sophia/Dylan & Sophia/Sam

Sophia/Ellie, Sophia & Ellie/Julia, Sophia/Patricia, Sophia/Patricia & Ellie, Sophia/Nathalie, Sophia/Emma, Sophia/Marie

Dylan/Ellie, Dylan/Sophia, Dylan/Sophia/Ellie, Dylan/Sophia/Emma, Dylan/Marie, Dylan/Sophia/Marie, Dylan/Sophia/Patricia, Dylan/Amber

Ellie/Julia, Ellie/Christine, Ellie/Emma, Ellie/Marie

My preferred AWAM rev is different than what many others may prefer:

The postman does Not deliver

The shota boys get their education elsewhere

Two old guys get an equally old nurse to bathe them

Bennett and Aiden try to blackmail each other - they both get what they deserve - encounters with their favorite friend -- Ben Dover ... and it's taped by students, released to the public and both disappear in disgrace

Liam is Not an idiot who gambles away his house and has a wife who responds with a 'How Could You' which becomes 'oh well, no big deal' in a few days

Sophia will never be made airtight by some combination of the movers/Bennett/Aiden & his gang/the janitor/the soccer team

I know I will not get my preferred AWAM experience... none of us will, right, but if I am going to dream, why not dream big!

At least my AWAM experience will include some of the above.


Speaking of dreaming big... I'd like my AWAM experience to be completed before I die...
You will be cursed if you put Lord Sam behind Frodo Dylan :ROFLMAO:
 
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XaGnard

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Yep, this.

The main story is what the players make of it with their choices. I'd say that's kinda the point of a choice-based VN. Also crazy to me how there's actual Sam vs. Dylan factions. It's...pixels on a computer / phone screen. I mean sure, immersion is a thing, but damn some people act like they are Dylan...or Sam, and Sophia about to climb out of their monitors to suck 'em off or something. lol
Decisions alone do not make an interesting story. It needs consequences, where the actions made in the context of one character have effects on the actions with other characters. That is why especially Dylan and Ellie are so important. Sophia cannot detach herself emotionally from them because they are her children, so in a good story, the two react to the actions Sophia has with other characters and possibly even be involved (whether directly or indirectly). That is why, for example, a decision in relation to Dylan to either have a more romantically mindset about Sophia or also like to watch her doing stuff with others, allows for a good story.

Only through consequences, there are also some truly exciting events.Especially when you look at the combination between Dylan/Sophia/Amber/Sam, there is a lot of potential. Take the event in the pool as an example. Here, the competition between Sam and Dylan was the trigger for an event that would have had much less meaning and, above all, would have been much less excitetent without the presence of Sam and Sophia. Also, the event between Sophia and Sam, was made more exciting by the possibility of them being caught by others close to them. Decisive for a good story here is not only what happens between Sophia and Sam, but the consequences this event may have on their environment. Just imaging Dylan will be able to watch them some day. This makes an interesting story, because it would have an impact on him and therefore also on Sophia.
 
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