VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Radoslaw Wolf]

***Breaking News!!*** (hardly)
Patron support took a nose dive 1639 down from 2200. that's around 600 if my math is correct. Seems like all efforts to keep them failed (teasers) and if my theory is correct we will not be seeing anymore teasers for quite sometime.Have to hand it to LP he is going to die on that hill, but hey...the lighting looks fabulous.

Let me play my broken record once more: if one month it had dropped below 1,000, we'd see a sudden and significant improvement in development pace and his work ethics overall. There's a slim chance he could lose his interest altogether, but that would mean finding some actual job, which I presume is a no no.
The pattern you just observed has been embraced by him long ago and is perfectly ok with him. The 600 he gains right before the release pays him a bonus for the traditional post-release vacation.

 

[SubtleHustle]

I have a save file with a goodwife path, just because I'm always interested what creators come up with for the road less traveled, for games like these.

I mean, hey, the goodwife should give up the butt right? Maybe not ATM but some buttstuff(TM).

 

[homejorz]

There is no main story for Dylan and Sam to be important to. I play neither, but still enjoy playing the Filthy route. You can take or leave any storyline you want, it doesn't matter.

Jesus you must barely ever play this. One of the best storylines is the shota stuff I think

 

[McZoy]

Let me play my broken record once more: if one month it had dropped below 1,000, we'd see a sudden and significant improvement in development pace and his work ethics overall. There's a slim chance he could lose his interest altogether, but that would mean finding some actual job, which I presume is a no no.
The pattern you just observed has been embraced by him long ago and is perfectly ok with him. The 600 he gains right before the release pays him a bonus for the traditional post-release vacation.

L&P was in Germany before were the average graduate salary for an employee with a UNI degree is around 2500 euros after taxes and insurance. I believe he is in Switzerland now where salaries are better plus reduced tax rates but still they can not reach his income from AWAM. Please add that is much better to be self employed.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

L&P was in Germany before were the average graduate salary for an employee with a UNI degree is around 2500 euros after taxes and insurance. I believe he is in Switzerland now where salaries are better plus reduced tax rates but still they can not reach his income from AWAM. Please add that is much better to be self employed.

Here, I spotted the flaw in your thinking right there - you're welcome

 

[Notretsam]

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

 

[GokutheG]

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

As someone who enjoys slow burns to build up to sex the problem seem to be the number of possible partners and the development time. The dev builds up the anticipation for sex and when it seems there will be some they stop in order to focus on the buildup of another character. This become a bigger problem when the focus is on a character(s) the player may not be into.

The way other games I enjoy seem to get around this is by having updates focus on multiple characters per update. An example may be that instead of focusing on just Dylan the update should also focus on Ellie. Next update could be Sam and Patricia or something like that. This way its possible that players can still be entertained if they aren't into one of the focused characters considering the time needed between updates.

 

[summersun]

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

I agree the last update was disastrous bad. He has always liked to troll us, but with the last update and then with 6 progress rings afterwards, which are all meaningless as the past has shown, he has reached a new level of foolery.

 

[whf]

This game is so funny sometimes. It's painfully obvious the boys are underaged in authors mind. "Parental activities", "Kids these days are more informed and understanding than we were in their age" but "I caught my 12 years old sister riding her boyfriend reverse cowgirl"?

 

[homejorz]

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

Sometimes with these VN's It feels like devs just do slow burn for the sake of slow burn, not to actually build any tension. There is a sweet spot IMO with VN's that devs can find, that builds tension without becoming boring. but most either have just a pointless brainless fuck fest, or a war and peace length slow burn to no end

 

[homejorz]

As someone who enjoys slow burns to build up to sex the problem seem to be the number of possible partners and the development time. The dev builds up the anticipation for sex and when it seems there will be some they stop in order to focus on the buildup of another character. This become a bigger problem when the focus is on a character(s) the player may not be into.

The way other games I enjoy seem to get around this is by having updates focus on multiple characters per update. An example may be that instead of focusing on just Dylan the update should also focus on Ellie. Next update could be Sam and Patricia or something like that. This way its possible that players can still be entertained if they aren't into one of the focused characters considering the time needed between updates.

It would take alot longer to add more characters per update, considering how long Dev time already is for these relatively short updates

 

[LSC82]

Yep, this.

The main story is what the players make of it with their choices. I'd say that's kinda the point of a choice-based VN. Also crazy to me how there's actual Sam vs. Dylan factions. It's...pixels on a computer / phone screen. I mean sure, immersion is a thing, but damn some people act like they are Dylan...or Sam, and Sophia about to climb out of their monitors to suck 'em off or something. lol

You have a point, but at the same time this is an unfiltered, NSFW forum, so from time to time me(and others) are gonna voice some unfiltered thoughts on the characters in the game.
I'm not Dylan, but certain character traits he has do feel relatable, so he ends up being a sympathetic character to me.
On the other hand Sam, specially early on, plays like an oportunistic weasel, using his friendship to well... weasel his way in.

I still play his route, because my number 1 priority is making Sophia as filthy as possible (and scenes can be hillarious with how dumb she gets), still, in RL i'd be wanting to give that opportunistic fuck a black eye, no doubt about it.

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

As someone who enjoys slow burns to build up to sex the problem seem to be the number of possible partners and the development time. The dev builds up the anticipation for sex and when it seems there will be some they stop in order to focus on the buildup of another character. This become a bigger problem when the focus is on a character(s) the player may not be into.

The way other games I enjoy seem to get around this is by having updates focus on multiple characters per update. An example may be that instead of focusing on just Dylan the update should also focus on Ellie. Next update could be Sam and Patricia or something like that. This way its possible that players can still be entertained if they aren't into one of the focused characters considering the time needed between updates.

LP is pushing the envelope on how slow can you make a story be... make it look like we are heading to somewhere interesting with one character, next thing character gets forgotten for a year, while everyone else catches up.
Nothing that accelerates the story "globally" happens, and sometimes in between these character hiatus it feels like Sophia cooled off, the escalation never happens.

 

[sept0342]

Who said the development was going fast? If we compare this version to Sam's, in day 16 of development (today) he was at 35% and 35%...

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.185.

25% - 25% - 0%
0% - 0% - 15%

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Who said the development was going fast? If we compare this version to Sam's, in day 16 of development (today) he was at 35% and 35%...

And "only" four progress bars at the time.

 

[armion82]

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Well,Liam get to the sacred 13.

Let me play my broken record once more: if one month it had dropped below 1,000, we'd see a sudden and significant improvement in development pace and his work ethics overall. There's a slim chance he could lose his interest altogether, but that would mean finding some actual job, which I presume is a no no.
The pattern you just observed has been embraced by him long ago and is perfectly ok with him. The 600 he gains right before the release pays him a bonus for the traditional post-release vacation.

Such a decrease can happen if the game get abandoned tag.
But the dev smartly split the day on 10 parts to avoid getting the tag.Otherwise if he was still on 1 full day in 1 update,the game for sure will get the tag.

You have a point, but at the same time this is an unfiltered, NSFW forum, so from time to time me(and others) are gonna voice some unfiltered thoughts on the characters in the game.
I'm not Dylan, but certain character traits he has do feel relatable, so he ends up being a sympathetic character to me.
On the other hand Sam, specially early on, plays like an oportunistic weasel, using his friendship to well... weasel his way win.

I still play his route, because my number 1 priority is making Sophia as filthy as possible (and scenes can be hillarious with how dumb she gets), still, in RL i'd be wanting to give that opportunistic fuck a black eye, no doubt about it.





LP is pushing the envelope on how slow can you make a story be... make it look like we are heading to somewhere interesting with one character, next thing character gets forgotten for a year, while everyone else catches up.
Nothing that accelerates the story "globally" happens, and sometimes in between these character hiatus it feels like Sophia cooled off, the escalation never happens.

There is no character in the game(except Sophia) that is getting updates in only an year.Even major characters like Ellie and Dylan have top wait 2-3 years for their next scene with Sophia.

 

[kadgilek]

the dev ruined her milf look with that new hair cut

 

[XaGnard]

Usually, I would make a post on what I think is going to happen in the next update, or at least what I would do. However, this time around, I'm like, meh, can't even be bothered. This VN is fascinating from a developer standpoint but I hate to say it, but this slow-burn storytelling is getting old. I'm all for taking your time and still say that even though there has not been sex, there have been a lot of really hot scenes but heck, AWAM needs something big, something that shakes up everything, either Sophia has sex or there is a major consequence for Sophia in regards to something.

Was a perfect chance in the last update to shake things up by having Julia actually catch Sophia and Sam. We know this update won't have sex, as Dylan only catches up with Sam but doesn't go further. Maybe we find out Dylan was watching from the bedroom and did see Sam with Sophia but doubt it, as the convo Dylan had in his head with himself in the car, no doubt he mention it there if he was watching.

I'm so over the slow burn in this and losing interest in AWAM.

Yes, I couldn't agree more. In particular, the fact that L&P ignored the opportunities that resulted from the event between Sophia and Sam (and which he so clearly hinted at) was really very disappointing. Especially with a Dylan who would have known about this event, the story could really pick up speed, without blackmailers like Aiden, etc.

As someone who enjoys slow burns to build up to sex the problem seem to be the number of possible partners and the development time. The dev builds up the anticipation for sex and when it seems there will be some they stop in order to focus on the buildup of another character. This become a bigger problem when the focus is on a character(s) the player may not be into.

The way other games I enjoy seem to get around this is by having updates focus on multiple characters per update. An example may be that instead of focusing on just Dylan the update should also focus on Ellie. Next update could be Sam and Patricia or something like that. This way its possible that players can still be entertained if they aren't into one of the focused characters considering the time needed between updates.

In my opinion, Dylan would be by far the best character in AWAM to accelerate the story. He is a little manipulative, has a voyeur skill and the motivation. Also he is well connected to the other characters of the main story. If Dylan had a little more knowlege (e.g. about Sophia action with Sam), and would be given the opportunity by L&P to influence other chracters, this could result in a fun story hat is much faster as these ever-repeating mini advances of the last few years.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Decisions alone do not make an interesting story. It needs consequences, where the actions made in the context of one character have effects on the actions with other characters. That is why especially Dylan and Ellie are so important. Sophia cannot detach herself emotionally from them because they are her children, so in a good story, the two react to the actions Sophia has with other characters and possibly even be involved (whether directly or indirectly). That is why, for example, a decision in relation to Dylan to either have a more romantically mindset about Sophia or also like to watch her doing stuff with others, allows for a good story.

Only through consequences, there are also some truly exciting events.Especially when you look at the combination between Dylan/Sophia/Amber/Sam, there is a lot of potential. Take the event in the pool as an example. Here, the competition between Sam and Dylan was the trigger for an event that would have had much less meaning and, above all, would have been much less excitetent without the presence of Sam and Sophia. Also, the event between Sophia and Sam, was made more exciting by the possibility of them being caught by others close to them. Decisive for a good story here is not only what happens between Sophia and Sam, but the consequences this event may have on their environment. Just imaging Dylan will be able to watch them some day. This makes an interesting story, because it would have an impact on him and therefore also on Sophia.

Except that it's stupidly easy to detach from the Dylan route. Just don't accept Aiden's demands, because there's no reason to anyway. The benefits are better for Dylan in the long run, since he's getting a better education on Carl's dime.

Jesus you must barely ever play this. One of the best storylines is the shota stuff I think

The shota storyline is one of the most idiotic. Makes absolutely no sense considering her training and upbringing

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

Wow the timing of the animation is in perfect synchro with the development cycle. Totally not suss at all.