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LOL, it kills me the "i would appreciate if this teaser wouldnt be shared"You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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That's becaues L&P is a male trying to write from the perspective of a female, and not understanding fully what that means. So L&P keeps inserting Dylan into the story more and more as he can relate far better to Dylan than Sophia and her struggles. I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but it's why L&P needs a small group of people to sound board off of so that he can gain different perspectives. Dylan just feels like an insert character and the "hero" of the story, Sophia is just the lens through which we watch the story.It is the characters around Sophia that drive the story forward, not Sophia herself. Also, please remember, AWAM is about Sophia and her role as wife and mother. It only makes sense that Dylan and Ellie get more space here. Also, I think it's good to bring Dylan forward even a bit more. After all he has to seduce both his mother and his sister. That takes time.
Sorry, but the stories around Dylan make the whole game worth playing from my point of view. Even Sam only gains weight in the story through his role as a competitor to Dylan. Without Dylan, AWAM just wouldn't work. He has the best overarching stories next to Sophia. I'm even curious to see the story between Dylan and Ellie accelerates.
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According to L&P, they will do something before the jacuzzi and they'll have more privacy. Therefore, the jacuzzi is implied for part 2.After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
Outside in the hot tub with Dylan, where everyone can watch them both. By everyone I mean Sam among others. Sam as Cuck - I want to see the whining here in the forum.After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
Very very interesting, the supposed "thing" before the Jacuzzi intrigues meAccording to L&P, they will do something before the jacuzzi and they'll have more privacy, Therefore, the jacuzzi is implied for part 2.
What's wrong with mother and son taking a bath in the Jacuzzi? It is not something so crazy or extreme considering everything that has happened between them, also they had already planned it and no less than in broad daylightOutside in the hot tub with Dylan, where everyone can watch them both. By everyone I mean Sam among others. Sam as Cuck - I want to see the whining here in the forum.
For this reason and the incest reason I would rule out an event at the pool.
I guess it will be the massage, considering their talk at the end of the running event and the cream that Claire just gave to Sophia the last event.Very very interesting, the supposed "thing" before the Jacuzzi intrigues me
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L&P has several female characters in AWAM with clearly self-motivated actions that drive the story. Patricia, for example, is well aware of how the world works and certainly has no problems in achieving her goals. Also Amber and Ellie have their own goals. No, it is Sophia who is really frighteningly passive for an MC. That's why I think Dylan should clearly get more content.That's becaues L&P is a male trying to write from the perspective of a female, and not understanding fully what that means. So L&P keeps inserting Dylan into the story more and more as he can relate far better to Dylan than Sophia and her struggles. I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but it's why L&P needs a small group of people to sound board off of so that he can gain different perspectives. Dylan just feels like an insert character and the "hero" of the story, Sophia is just the lens through which we watch the story.
So many of the different story threads tie directly to Dylan, because Dylan is the more relatable character to L&P. Bennet's blackmail. Aiden's blackmail. The Sam/Amber/Dylan MILF-off thing. Christine/Marie/Emma all being love interests to Dylan; even though Emma was telegraphed as a lesbian route interest for Sophia, Marie and, specifically, Claire as swinger type route, and Christine seemed way more tied to Ellie's story than to Dylan. Dylan is active in multiple sports and is learning martial arts to defend himself, we've spent multiple scenes following those plot lines. Two scenes have been dedicated to Dylan getting a haircut.
Ellie has a lot of her own content and there was even an event for Liam point of view. Of the family, Dylan is the furthest behind when it comes to having progress with Sophia. In general, however, I think it makes no sense to expect Sophia to be equally engaged with all characters in the family or even in the game. Rather, Dylan is a good second main charkter for the story, since he belongs to a different generation as well as to the opposite sex than Sophia. That alone can be reason enough to give him more space, not to mention that he is the most popular character next to Sophia.It's confounding since there are other family members whos lives should also be affecting Sophia and her story. What has happened in Ellie's life that has affected the story? Kissed a girl at the pool, and asked her mother some pretty benal, at least so far, things about sex. And we've spent one scene at the dance studio, one in the dressing room, and one short scene with Ellie smoking a cigarette with Christine, that Dylan takes a part in unless sent away to the boarding school. What about Patricia? Encouraged Sophia to go out to a club and to a galla event at a museum, and introduced Sophia to Claire. Patricia has done little else in the story besides introduce Sophia to someone else. You know what most of these scenes have in common? They all came very early in the story. The longer the story has gone on, the more focus has shifted in Dylans favor, when he was already getting as much time as the rest of the family.
From my point of view, all the gangster stories in AWAM are somehow implausible. The Casio stroy with its subsequent visit to the prison is no exception. In my opinion AWAM would have been better off without Aiden and co. and more than that, i don't count any of this characters to be Dylan content.I absolutely cheered when Liam got in trouble at the casino, because finally someone else was having an effect on the family and it was a fire that wasn't directly tied to Dylan that Sophia had to put out. It was supposed to make Liam out like a bad guy, and I turned around and created a goodwife savefile solely because of this event.
Strange how much one's own preference influences one's judgment. I think that Dylan has currently come off worst. Ellie made much better progress. And considering charakter outside the family, the events with Alyssa or Nathalie in the lesbian path and the Sam event in the hetero path were much further than anything Dylan had so far. Even the sex education children had more action from Sophia than him. If there is anyone who needs more content, it is Dylan.My problem with Dylan isn't that it's Dylan, it's that he isn't Sophia. I enjoyed the early parts of this story, specifically because Sophia seemed like a well written character. Most of the early filthy options weren't even filthy, but iwere pretty innocous things like giving a phone number to a galla coordinator or enduring a hug that would make most people uncomfortable. Same goes with most of the lesbian temptations; rubbing sunscreen on a daughter's back, complimenting the looks of another woman, have a bathtowel lowered during a massage. It planted all these seeds for what could become of Sophia, and now for the last twoish year it feels like to story has drifted further away from all these early plot points so that Dylan can take up more focus.
What does personal preference come into it? I'm talking about removing storylines that contribute nothing to the advancement of the protagonist's story. If I wanted to argue for my personal preference, it would be something like an Ellie POV of her and Jules getting up to shenanigans - the things that are easily and have been done in a render or two of discussion. Or Jules' MSND performance.L&P has several female characters in AWAM with clearly self-motivated actions that drive the story. Patricia, for example, is well aware of how the world works and certainly has no problems in achieving her goals. Also Amber and Ellie have their own goals. No, it is Sophia who is really frighteningly passive for an MC. That's why I think Dylan should clearly get more content.
Again, Dylan is Sophia's son and it is only logical that he plays an important role in her life, just as Ellie does. The fact that Liam has so little space is technically well explained in the story and is probably also due to the fact that his character is not very popular. Don't forget that Dylan is in the on top of the characters beside Sophia, even though he is far behind others in terms of progress.
Also, please do not forget that Ellie also got a lot of focus. She has the friend group from the dancing course, the connection with Emma (including the shopping event) and a series of events with Julia, which have brought the lesbian story forward considerably. In addition, she is also a part of her story with Dylan. It's like I said. In a game called "A wife and mother", so the children have a certain importance.
Ellie has a lot of her own content and there was even an event for Liam point of view. Of the family, Dylan is the furthest behind when it comes to having progress with Sophia. In general, however, I think it makes no sense to expect Sophia to be equally engaged with all characters in the family or even in the game. Rather, Dylan is a good second main charkter for the story, since he belongs to a different generation as well as to the opposite sex than Sophia. That alone can be reason enough to give him more space, not to mention that he is the most popular character next to Sophia.
From my point of view, all the gangster stories in AWAM are somehow implausible. The Casio stroy with its subsequent visit to the prison is no exception. In my opinion AWAM would have been better off without Aiden and co. and more than that, i don't count any of this characters to be Dylan content.
Looking at how the story around LIam was structured, I think his strong plots would have been the one in his company (there were some really good looking female colleagues), the competitive relationship with Carl in the square between Liam/Sophia/Carl/Patricia and the event with the wedding preparations (swinger planed?). The fact that Liam is not very popular with the players is probably the reason he do not get much attention at the moment, but L&P put a lot of time creating content with him.
Strange how much one's own preference influences one's judgment. I think that Dylan has currently come off worst. Even the sex education children had more action from Sophia than him. Ellie made much better progress. And considering charakter outside the family, the events with Alyssa or Nathalie in the lesbian path and the Sam event in the hetero path were much further than anything Dylan had so far. If there is anyone who needs more content, it is Dylan.
I think you're drawing the line way too narrow. It is a story about "A wife and mother" and Dylan and Ellie are Sophia's children with an strong emotional bond. If L&P would treat these two characters the same as all others it would certainly doesn't do the game justice.What does personal preference come into it? I'm talking about removing storylines that contribute nothing to the advancement of the protagonist's story. If I wanted to argue for my personal preference, it would be something like an Ellie POV of her and Jules getting up to shenanigans - the things that are easily and have been done in a render or two of discussion. Or Jules' MSND performance.
But I'm not arguing for that. I do agree with you that Dylan comes off worst. He has made the slowest progress with Sophia so far. At the slowest rate. But that's precisely my point. Dylan's POV was pure fan-service and didn't serve the story in any way. It only gave Dylan the chance to see women naked. But not Sophia to invite Dylan to see it, which might have advanced the storyline. L&P could easily have introduced Dylan to Marie at the salon. If you take the popular events on the Dylan route like the Bikini Fashion show, and remove ones like Sophia pushing him on the swing, his progress would probably be much better. Around the time of the Yoga event, there were many posts here asking if it was going to be "another shitty lesbian update", so I suspect Dylan was added just to quell those people. Don't know if it was like that on Patreon.
Were you around in the thread around the time of the Yoga event? We had our own poll for hottest event. Despite Dylan being more popular at the time, it was the Ellie/Julia event that one. One of the main factors was that of the events chosen, there were 2 Ellie and about 6 Dylan. So all the Dylan votes were spread out, and an Ellie event won the day.
I suspect something similar is happening here. There's been so much focus on having Dylan events that the quality of each event and storyline suffers.
L&P would have been better off if he'd created 2 games. Unfortunately that would have been a full-time job. Alternatively he could have opted to complete AWAM within a more reasonable time frame than 30-40 years, which wouldn't have demanded F/T working but would have needed more focus on Sophia. Both methods would of necessity have not included time-wasting side jobs & numerous duplications of characters, kinks & situations. Then he could have brought out a sequel game featuring Dylan as the MC & expanded his adventures as he got older & stopped being a virgin. IMO, there is no room in a game, (any game), for 2 official MCs, it's a contradiction in terms.I think you're drawing the line way too narrow. It is a story about "A wife and mother" and Dylan and Ellie are Sophia's children with an strong emotional bond. If L&P would treat these two characters the same as all others it would certainly doesn't do the game justice.
Also, I think, for a good story it is better to describe a smaller group of people in more detail, and have more events with this people involved rather than simply have a lot of disjointed stories were there is only little depth in the charaters (e.g. like the old guys). For example, It helps the story to know that Dylan is a voyeur in general and not limited in his interrest to Sophia or Ellie. This brings his behavior into a better understanding and could also be an important basis for his Cuckold path incl. a good reason for Dylan saw the event beteen Sophia and Sam. Even though Sophia is not allowed to know anything about this yet (similar to the event between Dylan and Amber), this is certainly not insignificant for the further course of the main story (and will most likely also results to some events with Sophia direct involvement). In any case, the possibilities for interesting entanglements in these stories (with Dylan as a 2nd main) are much better than in all the side stories (with only weak side characters, like the old guys).
BTW, I have nothing against the lesbian stories. They are a very importend base for some Ellie events, i guess. It's just that there are a lot of individual stories that are at least in part poorly integrated into the main story. The event between Ellie/Julia/Sophia was so strong, because, as with the events including Dylan, it is not only connnected to Sophia and Julia, but also one of her childern. This brings so much more story progress, that the event with Alyssa, even including way more sexual progess, is less important for the main story, i think.
In general, I think Dylan is probably the most important character in this story, next to Sophia. If anything, L&P should expand his part and not reduce it. Otherwise, the game runs the risk of simply becoming a collection of unrelated stories.
The point I'm trying to make is that Sophia/Dylan/Ellie/(Liam) are the main story. It's not just about Sophia. It is therefore wrong to pretend that events presented from Dylan's perspective steal Sophia's story. Rather, Dylan offers a part in the story of AWAM.For me it has nothing to do with how intimant Dylan has been with Sophia vs. anyone else. Dylan has far and away been more of a force of influence on the story than any other character. To the detriment of Sophia. The earlier content Playable Days 1-5 or so, Sophia was a much more active participent in her own life. Now, she is exactly as you say a passive protagonist, because, as I've said, she is the lens through which we are now viewing Dylan's story.