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LOL, it kills me the "i would appreciate if this teaser wouldnt be shared"
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That's becaues L&P is a male trying to write from the perspective of a female, and not understanding fully what that means. So L&P keeps inserting Dylan into the story more and more as he can relate far better to Dylan than Sophia and her struggles. I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but it's why L&P needs a small group of people to sound board off of so that he can gain different perspectives. Dylan just feels like an insert character and the "hero" of the story, Sophia is just the lens through which we watch the story.It is the characters around Sophia that drive the story forward, not Sophia herself. Also, please remember, AWAM is about Sophia and her role as wife and mother. It only makes sense that Dylan and Ellie get more space here. Also, I think it's good to bring Dylan forward even a bit more. After all he has to seduce both his mother and his sister. That takes time.
Sorry, but the stories around Dylan make the whole game worth playing from my point of view. Even Sam only gains weight in the story through his role as a competitor to Dylan. Without Dylan, AWAM just wouldn't work. He has the best overarching stories next to Sophia. I'm even curious to see the story between Dylan and Ellie accelerates.
So many of the different story threads tie directly to Dylan, because Dylan is the more relatable character to L&P. Bennet's blackmail. Aiden's blackmail. The Sam/Amber/Dylan MILF-off thing. Christine/Marie/Emma all being love interests to Dylan; even though Emma was telegraphed as a lesbian route interest for Sophia, Marie and, specifically, Claire as swinger type route, and Christine seemed way more tied to Ellie's story than to Dylan. Dylan is active in multiple sports and is learning martial arts to defend himself, we've spent multiple scenes following those plot lines. Two scenes have been dedicated to Dylan getting a haircut.
It's confounding since there are other family members whos lives should also be affecting Sophia and her story. What has happened in Ellie's life that has affected the story? Kissed a girl at the pool, and asked her mother some pretty benal, at least so far, things about sex. And we've spent one scene at the dance studio, one in the dressing room, and one short scene with Ellie smoking a cigarette with Christine, that Dylan takes a part in unless sent away to the boarding school. What about Patricia? Encouraged Sophia to go out to a club and to a galla event at a museum, and introduced Sophia to Claire. Patricia has done little else in the story besides introduce Sophia to someone else. You know what most of these scenes have in common? They all came very early in the story. The longer the story has gone on, the more focus has shifted in Dylans favor, when he was already getting as much time as the rest of the family.
I absolutely cheered when Liam got in trouble at the casino, because finally someone else was having an effect on the family and it was a fire that wasn't directly tied to Dylan that Sophia had to put out. It was supposed to make Liam out like a bad guy, and I turned around and created a goodwife savefile solely because of this event.
My problem with Dylan isn't that it's Dylan, it's that he isn't Sophia. I enjoyed the early parts of this story, specifically because Sophia seemed like a well written character. Most of the early filthy options weren't even filthy, but iwere pretty innocous things like giving a phone number to a galla coordinator or enduring a hug that would make most people uncomfortable. Same goes with most of the lesbian temptations; rubbing sunscreen on a daughter's back, complimenting the looks of another woman, have a bathtowel lowered during a massage. It planted all these seeds for what could become of Sophia, and now for the last twoish year it feels like to story has drifted further away from all these early plot points so that Dylan can take up more focus.
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After thinking about it a lot, I honestly don't think Sophia and Dylan will take a bath together in part 1, think about it, if that happens, what's left for part 2? Will they play Elden Ring on Dylan's PC for the rest of the night? IMO I think that Dylan will take Sophia to the basketball game, they will return late, Harris would have already left, Liam will have fallen asleep and they will decide to take a bath in the Jacuzzi, this following the plan they had in PD 12 to have a massage after the exercises, I think all the teaser of Sophia in a bikini is if she decides not to go with Dylan ergo she will take the bath alone in the Jacuzzi not in the bathroom, why you would put a bikini if your going to take a solo bath inside the house??! All will happen outside
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According to L&P, they will do something before the jacuzzi and they'll have more privacy. Therefore, the jacuzzi is implied for part 2.
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Outside in the hot tub with Dylan, where everyone can watch them both. By everyone I mean Sam among others. Sam as Cuck - I want to see the whining here in the forum.
For this reason and the incest reason I would rule out an event at the pool.
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Very very interesting, the supposed "thing" before the Jacuzzi intrigues me
What's wrong with mother and son taking a bath in the Jacuzzi? It is not something so crazy or extreme considering everything that has happened between them, also they had already planned it and no less than in broad daylight
Don't dismiss it completely, it can happen, plus Sam's tears will be very sweet
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I guess it will be the massage, considering their talk at the end of the running event and the cream that Claire just gave to Sophia the last event.
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Upcoming update won't be released before end of April he said.
Ok, thanks, L&P.
1. When do you think the current update would be done and released?
Sun, Mar 5 at 6:30 AM
>>> I cannot tell any concrete release date at this stage of development. But not earlier than end of April
Am Montag, 27. Februar 2023 um 08:48:25 MEZ hat Kimb <kimbe
Ok, thanks, L&P.
1. When do you think the current update would be done and released?
Sun, Mar 5 at 6:30 AM
>>> I cannot tell any concrete release date at this stage of development. But not earlier than end of April
Am Montag, 27. Februar 2023 um 08:48:25 MEZ hat Kimb <kimbe
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Progress Report Ver. 0.185. 35% - 30% - 0%
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Nice jump, thanks Mr. Xanatos
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L&P has several female characters in AWAM with clearly self-motivated actions that drive the story. Patricia, for example, is well aware of how the world works and certainly has no problems in achieving her goals. Also Amber and Ellie have their own goals. No, it is Sophia who is really frighteningly passive for an MC. That's why I think Dylan should clearly get more content.
Again, Dylan is Sophia's son and it is only logical that he plays an important role in her life, just as Ellie does. The fact that Liam has so little space is technically well explained in the story and is probably also due to the fact that his character is not very popular. Don't forget that Dylan is in the on top of the characters beside Sophia, even though he is far behind others in terms of progress.
Also, please do not forget that Ellie also got a lot of focus. She has the friend group from the dancing course, the connection with Emma (including the shopping event) and a series of events with Julia, which have brought the lesbian story forward considerably. In addition, she is also a part of her story with Dylan. It's like I said. In a game called "A wife and mother", so the children have a certain importance.
Ellie has a lot of her own content and there was even an event for Liam point of view. Of the family, Dylan is the furthest behind when it comes to having progress with Sophia. In general, however, I think it makes no sense to expect Sophia to be equally engaged with all characters in the family or even in the game. Rather, Dylan is a good second main charkter for the story, since he belongs to a different generation as well as to the opposite sex than Sophia. That alone can be reason enough to give him more space, not to mention that he is the most popular character next to Sophia.
From my point of view, all the gangster stories in AWAM are somehow implausible. The Casio stroy with its subsequent visit to the prison is no exception. In my opinion AWAM would have been better off without Aiden and co. and more than that, i don't count any of this characters to be Dylan content.
Looking at how the story around LIam was structured, I think his strong plots would have been the one in his company (there were some really good looking female colleagues), the competitive relationship with Carl in the square between Liam/Sophia/Carl/Patricia and the event with the wedding preparations (swinger planed?). The fact that Liam is not very popular with the players is probably the reason he do not get much attention at the moment, but L&P put a lot of time creating content with him.
Strange how much one's own preference influences one's judgment. I think that Dylan has currently come off worst. Ellie made much better progress. And considering charakter outside the family, the events with Alyssa or Nathalie in the lesbian path and the Sam event in the hetero path were much further than anything Dylan had so far. Even the sex education children had more action from Sophia than him. If there is anyone who needs more content, it is Dylan.
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lesser no of renders and longer time for development ..
this is sad
this is sad
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What does personal preference come into it? I'm talking about removing storylines that contribute nothing to the advancement of the protagonist's story. If I wanted to argue for my personal preference, it would be something like an Ellie POV of her and Jules getting up to shenanigans - the things that are easily and have been done in a render or two of discussion. Or Jules' MSND performance.
But I'm not arguing for that. I do agree with you that Dylan comes off worst. He has made the slowest progress with Sophia so far. At the slowest rate. But that's precisely my point. Dylan's POV was pure fan-service and didn't serve the story in any way. It only gave Dylan the chance to see women naked. But not Sophia to invite Dylan to see it, which might have advanced the storyline. L&P could easily have introduced Dylan to Marie at the salon. If you take the popular events on the Dylan route like the Bikini Fashion show, and remove ones like Sophia pushing him on the swing, his progress would probably be much better. Around the time of the Yoga event, there were many posts here asking if it was going to be "another shitty lesbian update", so I suspect Dylan was added just to quell those people. Don't know if it was like that on Patreon.
Were you around in the thread around the time of the Yoga event? We had our own poll for hottest event. Despite Dylan being more popular at the time, it was the Ellie/Julia event that one. One of the main factors was that of the events chosen, there were 2 Ellie and about 6 Dylan. So all the Dylan votes were spread out, and an Ellie event won the day.
I suspect something similar is happening here. There's been so much focus on having Dylan events that the quality of each event and storyline suffers.
I think you're drawing the line way too narrow. It is a story about "A wife and mother" and Dylan and Ellie are Sophia's children with an strong emotional bond. If L&P would treat these two characters the same as all others it would certainly doesn't do the game justice.
Also, I think, for a good story it is better to describe a smaller group of people in more detail, and have more events with this people involved rather than simply have a lot of disjointed stories were there is only little depth in the charaters (e.g. like the old guys). For example, It helps the story to know that Dylan is a voyeur in general and not limited in his interrest to Sophia or Ellie. This brings his behavior into a better understanding and could also be an important basis for his Cuckold path incl. a good reason for Dylan saw the event beteen Sophia and Sam. Even though Sophia is not allowed to know anything about this yet (similar to the event between Dylan and Amber), this is certainly not insignificant for the further course of the main story (and will most likely also results to some events with Sophia direct involvement). In any case, the possibilities for interesting entanglements in these stories (with Dylan as a 2nd main) are much better than in all the side stories (with only weak side characters, like the old guys).
BTW, I have nothing against the lesbian stories. They are a very importend base for some Ellie events, i guess. It's just that there are a lot of individual stories that are at least in part poorly integrated into the main story. The event between Ellie/Julia/Sophia was so strong, because, as with the events including Dylan, it is not only connnected to Sophia and Julia, but also one of her childern. This brings so much more story progress, that the event with Alyssa, even including way more sexual progess, is less important for the main story, i think.
In general, I think Dylan is probably the most important character in this story, next to Sophia. If anything, L&P should expand his part and not reduce it. Otherwise, the game runs the risk of simply becoming a collection of unrelated stories.
For me it has nothing to do with how intimant Dylan has been with Sophia vs. anyone else. Dylan has far and away been more of a force of influence on the story than any other character. To the detriment of Sophia. The earlier content Playable Days 1-5 or so, Sophia was a much more active participent in her own life. Now, she is exactly as you say a passive protagonist, because, as I've said, she is the lens through which we are now viewing Dylan's story.
L&P would have been better off if he'd created 2 games. Unfortunately that would have been a full-time job. Alternatively he could have opted to complete AWAM within a more reasonable time frame than 30-40 years, which wouldn't have demanded F/T working but would have needed more focus on Sophia. Both methods would of necessity have not included time-wasting side jobs & numerous duplications of characters, kinks & situations. Then he could have brought out a sequel game featuring Dylan as the MC & expanded his adventures as he got older & stopped being a virgin. IMO, there is no room in a game, (any game), for 2 official MCs, it's a contradiction in terms.
As I have no interest in incest, I began playing AWAM out of curiousity having seen quality renders of Sophia & Patricia on PD2 visiting the school, in what looked like a very clean city. As always I was in search of escapism. I was aware of incest content but back then managed to avoid most of it. Right now the stories & characters that interest me are in long-term limbo, or have most likely been written out. It's years since we've seen Alyssa, Aiden isn't due back for 5+ years, Nathalie isn't scheduled to reappear until 2035 at the current pace, Bennett is nowhere & there's more but you get the idea. I basically hoped for more interactions between Sophia & adults, (as in a proper extra-marital affair) but this has been noticeably absent for a long time. I only stay with AWAM because of quality renders & out of curiosity, which is where I came in.
As an aside, I play the Aiden path but I don't do it because I want to see Sophia turn into a "filthy whore," there's 100s of games out there like that & they are boring in the extreme.
L&P decided to drop the realism, (at least there was a veneer) & the class (apart from the quality renders), to focus on a game devoted to school-boy wish fulfilment, with a huge cast of good-looking teens, that wouldn't look out of place in an early-'60s beach movie. That concept of a sex race between Dylan & Sam is risible but it's not limited to them, with other characters also playing catch-up. So much for the realism....
What's ironic is that AWAM moves at a pace which will ensure that the teen fans of today will be middle-aged, with teens of their own, by the time they get to see their favourite 'shota-lite' shag Sophia. AWAM doesn't move at the pace of the average teen porn game. I'm guessing that by that time there'll be a whole new generation of fans asking whether Sophia has had sex outside of marriage yet. That's if we believe AWAM will still be around.
The point I'm trying to make is that Sophia/Dylan/Ellie/(Liam) are the main story. It's not just about Sophia. It is therefore wrong to pretend that events presented from Dylan's perspective steal Sophia's story. Rather, Dylan offers a part in the story of AWAM.
Also, I would not call Sophia passive. It's just that she's portrayed as a character who doesn't act out of her own motivation and thus functions poorly as an MC on her own. That Dylan works better here at the moment is, in my opinion, mainly because he is pursuing his own goals. This was already the case from the very beginning. Take the basketball game or the swimming lesson as examples. In both events, it was Sophia who only reacts while Dylan and Sam have an interest in Sophia which they pursue and even start a competition due to it (including Dylan's first decision about how to handle Sophia's interaction with other guys). I don't know which day it was, but the game didn't turn around as you depicted. It is just a very slow build-up, because there are to many side stories.