VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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palmtrees89 said:
I agree with the first part. For the graphics though, one can hardly say that it looks ugly. What you could say is that a bunch of developers are catching up, and there's also quite a few devs out there producing the same quality. Now, my issue is more about L&P saying that he can't possibly work faster without reducing render quality, which that's simply not true.

According to L&P, renders have gotten better since Part02 started, but in reality it's only the excessive use of filters and blur. Without those, his renders would look the same as they did 2 years ago. It's an illusion which causes renders to look more...modern, but the amount of work remains pretty much the same as adding filters and turning up the lighting does not result in more work. It's not like posing, facial expressions, working on clipping of clothing or environment. It's simply filters with certain values added to the render. That does NOT cause a developer to produce 30-40% less renders in a year, but that is exactly what's happening, and it doesn't only apply to Part02 of the game. This has been the case for the past 3+ years, as can be seen looking at the raw numbers. Less renders year after year.

Why? Well, for Part02 some people would argue that it's because of animations, and I tend to agree. Problem is, L&P himself said that animations do not affect his development at all. He's also said that there's some mysterious "animations helper" creating them, and so his workload would remain the same. But then he's also saying that he's got to edit those animations in post, which in itself is contradicting the above statements. In fact, animations have slowed down the development of every single update, which again contradicts above statements.

And so the question remains. Why? Why is it that the development becomes slower year after year? Why is it that L&P constantly manages to contradict himself? Why is he lying for the past 5 years about finding people and ways to increase development speed without it ever happening? Quite the opposite, actually. There's a million question marks to which we'll likely never get a real answer as L&P is guarding this project like Fort Knox.


I'd give it a 6/10. Gotten worse since Part02 due to event-based releases. Feels very disjointed as we go from one event to another without any in-between imo. The rest of this quote is kinda nonsense, as the game wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the people paying for it. This applies to every major AVN project out there, with some having more support than others. That's just how it works. L&P's Patreon is stagnating for a good year now, so I'd say he's reached his limit of people who don't mind (for now) a ever decreasing development speed.


Mostly agree here. L&P is full of himself. Sometimes I do wonder if he's the same way IRL, because that must be a pretty darn lonely existence. Anyway, if you want to compare hardware and skills, L&P is way up there. Not many developers have two monster rigs with a total of 4x 3090ti's to work with. His talent for art is also way above the average in the world of AVN's. Saying otherwise would be lying to yourself. Yes, there are other devs on the same level and also a bunch who are catching up, but those are equal in number to some grains of sand on a beach. That's gonna change within the next few years with AI being a thing, though.

Not a fan of the Dylan storyline but if you'll lose interest after Sophia's first sex scene, well, then you're not after a good story anyway. A good game will keep it's players entertained, even after the female MC got her cherry popped. Problem here is more that this hasn't happened in almost 6 years of development, which one would expect from a AVN. But that again comes down to L&P's abysmal development speed and increasingly large single-event updates taking 2+ years for a single PD at this point.

Anyway...Wall of text achieved. Fuck.
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There is no animation helper. L&P a greedy POS. Not 1 dime elsewhere from his/her pocket. I promise you there is NO animations helper
 
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L0b0ts said:
Cease and Desist on L&P please, he is feeling the burn, so everybody chill, don't make it worse you barbarians.
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Makes no diff. This game has established an unattainable pace and makes abandonment an inevitability. Thankfully though the content of the game is illegal so any other dev can simply find/develop assets and finish the game.
 
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The main problem I see with most of his updates, one that directly affects the turn around time between updates, is that L&P wastes time rending many insignificant shots.

So much could be trimmed down to move the scenes along, but then that would mean he has to actually move the story along.

So, instead, he bloats scenes with redundant shots that are minor camera angle changes at best, and now it takes, what, 2 years to get 1 PD?
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Here is the problem, he want's to milk, i like milking i am a fan in that area, reason i don't watch porn as well, what's so hot about someone just fucking, but to milk atleast make regular updates not 1 small update in 2 months, that's crazy. If the update is going to take long make it big and worth the wait. Zeno's anthology also has slow update but when it update the story moves much more forward. I don't care about this game anymore just seeing what goes on. The author is stupid, don't give him money. or else he will not change.
 
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hmc15 said:
There is no animation helper. L&P a greedy POS. Not 1 dime elsewhere from his/her pocket. I promise you there is NO animations helper
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Well yeah, that's what many people, me included, have been saying since animations are a thing. My post was simply based off L&P's own statements, showcasing how even without the obvious he's managing to contradict himself time and time again.

Glad you've come to the conclusion that nothing he says makes sense, as your posts had a very much different tone a couple months back.
 
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hmc15 said:
There is no animation helper. L&P a greedy POS. Not 1 dime elsewhere from his/her pocket. I promise you there is NO animations helper
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Answer me a question: why does he only use Blender to render animations, instead of all animations and images rendered with Blender to make them consistent, since LP himself can use Blender to do the animation,build the scene and lighting and rendering?
 
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Rui Kisugi said:
Answer me a question: why does he only use Blender to render animations, instead of all animations and images rendered with Blender to make them consistent, since LP himself can use Blender to do the animation,build the scene and lighting and rendering?
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Because Blender is more time consuming to create regular renders with. DAZ is specialized in statics. Assets used in DAZ would look like garbage in Blender in many cases aswell, which means he'd have to spend stupid amounts of time adjusting everything to Blender.
 
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Rui Kisugi said:
Answer me a question: why does he only use Blender to render animations, instead of all animations and images rendered with Blender to make them consistent, since LP himself can use Blender to do the animation,build the scene and lighting and rendering?
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Oh, also; When L&P started creating animations, he came here asking for help to import assets from DAZ to Blender without it looking like shit. Now ask yourself why he'd do that if he had a professional animator for Blender at hand.

And how come animations only progress when the other progress bars are moving if L&P's and the "animation helpers" work is independent from eachother? Why is it that during the time L&P created his "in-between specials", the animation bar wasn't moving, the same way created scenes/rendered scenes weren't moving? Does that make any sense to you?

Isn't it also very convenient that both CS+RS and animations seem to progress at roughly the same pace? A bit much of a coincidence, huh?
 
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ai12 said:
People don't get it, but the average of releasing each update increased into 2.5 months.
with the current progress it will take over 30 years for L&P to finish the game.
despite all of his promises and excuses the progress is only getting slower.
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The author can reveal more plot to satisfy people's curiosity :)
 
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palmtrees89 said:
Oh, also; When L&P started creating animations, he came here asking for help to import assets from DAZ to Blender without it looking like shit. Now ask yourself why he'd do that if he had a professional animator for Blender at hand.

And how come animations only progress when the other progress bars are moving if L&P's and the "animation helpers" work is independent from eachother? Why is it that during the time L&P created his "in-between specials", the animation bar wasn't moving, the same way created scenes/rendered scenes weren't moving? Does that make any sense to you?

Isn't it also very convenient that both CS+RS and animations seem to progress at roughly the same pace? A bit much of a coincidence, huh?
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you win, you win :LUL:
 
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