VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

Lol, This route makes the Dylan character poor and weak in the game. And mainly players start to lose interest in Dylan's main story line, the Sophia/Dylan stotyline. And players start hating the Dylan character. It has already started

I don't see it that way. If I understand L&P correctly, it is Dylan who is trying to create these situations. Dylan plays a manipulative role in this. That is the opposite of weak. Dylan and Sophia have already had voyuer events in the game. I see no reason why Dylan shouldn't continue. That you do not like the path does not mean that there are no fans for it. On the contrary, I think this path has a lot of potential for exciting twists and turns.

Also, I think the term "cuck" is wrong. It would require a romantic relationship between Dylan and Sophia (which happens on the other path), and Dylan would have to disagree with the events. If you read L&P's previous comments on this, the story does not fit the term cuck.

More generally, Dylan has some bitter enemies on this forum. I've always found that funny. Especially when you realize that Dylan is regularly at the top of the most popular chracters in this game.

 

[tofhdns]

I don't know why people think Dylan wants to watch Sofia with another man.

Part 2 is a continuation of Part 1.

For Dylan to come to Part 1, he must defend Sofia from thugs, confront students who evaluate her body, and warn Sofia at the hair salon.

Because of what Dylan said?

Dylan had said similar things a couple of times before, but his behavior was always exclusive.

Of course, it is LP's habit of ignoring the existing settings.

Dylan has at least two paths. In one of them he tries to bring Sophia together with other guys. There was a post about it from L&P. some time ago:

Spoiler: L&P about Dylan like to see his mom with other guys

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I think, both PART1 and PART 2 are not about this Path:

Spoiler: L&P about the two Sophia/Dylan events

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I clearly stated 'Part 2'.

And you refuted this post of mine.

Now, it doesn't seem fair to evade by saying that English isn't your first language.

I also make mistakes because English is not my first language.

I think you need to admit your mistakes.

I talked about both. The story as a whole and the content of the two PARTs. That this update is probably only about the romantic path is also clear to me in the meantime. That is the reason why I have added L&P answer in my post.

It does not matter. Perhaps I have expressed myself incorrectly. English is not my native language.

 

[SophiaLovesDylan]

In the game it's your choice if dylan likes to get cucked or not. You can simply not follow that route and do the main route. that cuck Dylan is actually optional. It doesn't really effect much if you don't like mom/son cuckold, which is absolutely normal because it makes no sense.

I don't see it that way. If I understand L&P correctly, it is Dylan who is trying to create these situations. Dylan plays a manipulative role in this. That is the opposite of weak. Dylan and Sophia have already had voyuer events in the game. I see no reason why Dylan shouldn't continue. That you do not like the path does not mean that there are no fans for it. On the contrary, I think this path has a lot of potential for exciting twists and turns.

Also, I think the term "cuck" is wrong. It would require a romantic relationship between Dylan and Sophia (which happens on the other path), and Dylan would have to disagree with the events. If you read L&P's previous comments on this, the story does not fit the term cuck.

More generally, Dylan has some bitter enemies on this forum. I've always found that funny. Especially when you realize that Dylan is regularly at the top of the most popular chracters in this game.

But unfortunately, those disgusting scenes are now mixed up in the Sophia/Dylan storyline. We should have only Sophia and Dylan related stuff's/subjects in the every Sophia/Dylan events. We have no problem with l&p experimenting with those cuck scenes during others events, but don't include them in Sophia/Dylan events.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Lol, This route makes the Dylan character poor and weak in the game. And mainly players start to lose interest in Dylan's main story line, the Sophia/Dylan stotyline. And players start hating the Dylan character. It has already started

Dylan or sam hate Is forced really. Both routes are very enjoyable

People who don't understand why the dylan/sophia path soo slow compared to others .. I've said this many times.
** Sam has a pure romance route with sophia and they're not releted and not commiting incest so it make things easier for both them to get close quickly. Makes sense. But When it comes to dylan, that dude gotta work hard, why? he's trying to seduced his own mother and this is where I've to give credit to L&P. He didn't rush things this dylan/sophia. He's providing a good build up to a forbidden relationship between a mother and a son. So we have to be patient with this one. Any other game make it too easy to build that kind of relationship. That's why I'm very interested in this game and particularly in the D/S route. **

Ofcourse i agree there is some nonsense in the game but it's a porn game so ignore it, there's nothing we can do abt it .

 

[DylansMoM_001]

But unfortunately, those disgusting scenes are now mixed up in the Sophia/Dylan storyline. We should have only Sophia and Dylan related stuff's/subjects in the every Sophia/Dylan events. We have no problem with l&p experimenting with those cuck scenes during others events, but don't include them in Sophia/Dylan events.

Not every single dylan/sophia event has cuckold
Look at v0.185 d/s part1 .. it's purely a romantic event between Dylan and Sophia

 

[Zacko man]

Not every single dylan/sophia event has cuckold
Look at v0.185 d/s part1 .. it's purely a romantic event between Dylan and Sophia

L&P has been sending mixed signals lately.



Starting with Sophia's first time, he said there would be no flashbacks about that, and instead he added them as part of Dylan's cuck route/path (I agree that "voyeur" is more appropriate, so cDylan --> vDylan )



He said that in Part 1 & 2 there would be no cuck events, but just focusing on the progress of the two.

The whole Part 1 (and 2) is prevented if the cuck path (Dylan not telling Sophia about Davon) is chosen during the previous event. Story-wise, the choice is rationalized as making Sophia feel safer and protected by Dylan so he can join the relaxing bath.

At the same time, this **seems** to suggest that the cuck/voyeur path in which Dylan will somehow test his theory about Sophia is alternative to the "normal" Sophia/Dylan path. And yet, see above, we got cuck points for the flashback. Which is kind of inconsistent (leaving aside the weirdness of the exchange), why collecting points for a path that is mutually exclusive with the current one? Unless there will be other events à la Devon in the future that allows to switch again to the cuck path. OR, simply, the two routes are not so distinct/independent?



For the upcoming event, I'd still tend to expect no major cuck/voyeur event because the focus should be on Sophia/Dylan, but in the light of the previous event I won't exclude there would be still some points awarded for a minor voyeuristic action: for example letting someone paying a compliment or lightly flirt with Sophia without any further development. It would still not be consistent or make sense in terms of "paths" IMO, but I'm afraid that the consistency boat has sailed some time ago.



PS

In the process of looking back at the various intel, I realized that we "lost" (as in deleted member) Mr.Gamer who was a serial question asker and he contributed a lot to the information we know about future events

buddy, read this completely once, xxxorro has answered your confusing questions correctly and some things you don't know. Added 1 cuck point to Dylan in Sophia/Dylan Part 1 event. L&P said that there will be no Cuck events or scenes and in Part 1 and 2, only focusing on the progression of the Sophia/Dylan romantic relationship. But look at this. And He said that there were no flashbacks to Sophia losing her virginity for the first time, and instead he included it in the event via a flashback scene in Part 1 as part of Dylan's Cuck scene.



L&P has been sending mixed signals lately.

Starting with Sophia's first time, he said there would be no flashbacks about that, and instead he added them as part of Dylan's cuck route/path.

He said that in Part 1 & 2 there would be no cuck events, but just focusing on the progress of the two.

 

[Xyzwvu]

No other games to play meanwhile?

 

[Zacko man]

The flashback scene where Sophia loses her virginity could only be explained in detail in the dialogues. Or in that flashback, instead of that 3rd character, Dylan could have shown himself as imagined in that scene. just like jail scene or sam's dream sequence. But he didn't think of l&p to create a scene like that. Dylan fans are disappointed at every Sophia/Dylan event. Also, there are no proper build ups in the Sophia/Dylan storyline in the game.

 

[shepardcommander]

I wonder if Tyler is there and spots Sophia to come over and either asks her to dance again (since he danced with her previously) or asks if he can buy her a drink and a juice box for the boy .
Remember Tyler already met Dylan in the diner when he lied about being her boyfriend and acting like a tough guy and they said they wouldn’t beat him up cause that would be child abuse

Which game is your signature from?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

buddy, read this completely once, xxxorro has answered your confusing questions correctly and some things you don't know. Added 1 cuck point to Dylan in Sophia/Dylan Part 1 event. L&P said that there will be no Cuck events or scenes and in Part 1 and 2, only focusing on the progression of the Sophia/Dylan romantic relationship. But look at this. And He said that there were no flashbacks to Sophia losing her virginity for the first time, and instead he included it in the event via a flashback scene in Part 1 as part of Dylan's Cuck scene.



L&P has been sending mixed signals lately.

Starting with Sophia's first time, he said there would be no flashbacks about that, and instead he added them as part of Dylan's cuck route/path (I agree that "voyeur" is more appropriate, so cDylan --> vDylan )

He said that in Part 1 & 2 there would be no cuck events, but just focusing on the progress of the two.
The whole Part 1 (and 2) is prevented if the cuck path (Dylan not telling Sophia about Davon) is chosen during the previous event. Story-wise, the choice is rationalized as making Sophia feel safer and protected by Dylan so he can join the relaxing bath.
At the same time, this **seems** to suggest that the cuck/voyeur path in which Dylan will somehow test his theory about Sophia is alternative to the "normal" Sophia/Dylan path. And yet, see above, we got cuck points for the flashback. Which is kind of inconsistent (leaving aside the weirdness of the exchange), why collecting points for a path that is mutually exclusive with the current one? Unless there will be other events à la Devon in the future that allows to switch again to the cuck path. OR, simply, the two routes are not so distinct/independent?

For the upcoming event, I'd still tend to expect no major cuck/voyeur event because the focus should be on Sophia/Dylan, but in the light of the previous event I won't exclude there would be still some points awarded for a minor voyeuristic action: for example letting someone paying a compliment or lightly flirt with Sophia without any further development. It would still not be consistent or make sense in terms of "paths" IMO, but I'm afraid that the consistency boat has sailed some time ago.

Because he’s a lousy liar, even Sophia knows it

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Which game is your signature from?

Lisa

 

[XaGnard]

I seriously don't think there will be any cDylan in this update. And if something is to happen between Dylan and Sophia i think it will take place in the house after they return home. And if there is cDylan in the update, im not fan of it. It'll ruin the romantic vibe between them. Im not doing that shit.


Also I've got a question about Aiden events if anyone could answer.
(Q). Will we be able to get rid of him without sending dylan to the boarding school in the future ??

This update is about Dylan and Sophia. This is what L&P wrote and what has been repeated here several times.

At the same time, it must be said that I don't see a romanic vibe between the two. The whole thing is not, at least so far, comparable to the story between Sophia and Sam which contains clear romanic elements. Ultimately, Dylan builds entirely upon educating himself and even mentions Marie as his possible LI. Maybe this will change with this update, but so far everything is quite clearly one-sided and sexually driven.

Dylan being okay with the other guys having something with Sophia is ultimately a different path. That this is intended as an alternative to the romantic path can be clearly read from the L&P text. Again, They are two different paths. If you don't like the second path, that's your business, but I'm sure there are many here, myself included, who see it differently for themselves.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

If it weren’t for the gallery by Bibifoc, a lot of people would be missing out on some good scenes in this game because there not on that path or don’t have enough points with certain character

 

[HanSolofan]

If it weren’t for the gallery by Bibifoc, a lot of people would be missing out on some good scenes in this game because there not on that path or don’t have enough points with certain character

What gallery?

 

[Wbwbd85]

But unfortunately, those disgusting scenes are now mixed up in the Sophia/Dylan storyline. We should have only Sophia and Dylan related stuff's/subjects in the every Sophia/Dylan events. We have no problem with l&p experimenting with those cuck scenes during others events, but don't include them in Sophia/Dylan events.

Cuckold is disgusting but incest is ok??? Taboo is taboo. Just cause you don't like something doesn't mean it's disgusting. I don't like trans content so I don't play or watch it. But people that like it doesn't make them or the content disgusting.

 

[lockerxx]

What gallery?

this one.

 

[Bane71]

I wonder if Tyler is there and spots Sophia to come over and either asks her to dance again (since he danced with her previously) or asks if he can buy her a drink and a juice box for the boy .
Remember Tyler already met Dylan in the diner when he lied about being her boyfriend and acting like a tough guy and they said they wouldn’t beat him up cause that would be child abuse

Given that Dylan is L&P's favorite character, it's unlikely we'll see Taylor there. But if that happens and Taylor is there, then Dylan will come out of this situation with dignity.

I will slightly supplement my previous post.
I have no doubt that this evening is dedicated to Dylan and Sophia, especially since the author himself stated this. But I think that it is on this evening that Sophia can relax and have some fun, and she will obviously not be deprived of attention from strangers men. It's just that Sophia won't pay much attention to other men tonight, maybe just a little, and right now, along one of the routes in the game, Dylan may start to like to see how others try to get his mother.
Unlike many others, I wonder where the path on which Dylan likes to see Sophia with other men will lead. But still, I think Liam is more suitable for this role.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Maybe this will change with this update, but so far

the change You're taking about has already started to take place in the last update

 

[Deniroeste]

Guys Dylan's cuck route is totally creepy and it doesn't make sense to me. Cuck route only suits Liam and Sam. This does not suit well with Dylan. And most importantly it doesn't fit Dylan's character. Sophia only sees Dylan as an educational way. She doesn't see him as a lover or husband. So, it definitely doesn't fit Dylan. Here too L&P made a big mistake while writing the story. I think it would be better to transfer the Cuck route from Dylan to Liam or Sam. I want to see liam or sam as a cuck. Because it makes sense. And Dylan cuck route, really It doesn't make sense for the Dylan character.

Guys, what do you think about this?

I am very amused that Sophia continues to think of it as something "educational" to show him her tits, her ass, surely her pussy in a future chapter, letting herself be groped, perhaps sucking her tits, perhaps herself sucking her own son's cock... everything for the sake of an "educational" concept. LOL what a tremendous mother whore who turned out to be the "nun" Sophia ;-) (sarcastic giggles)

 

[hzjujk]

Given that Dylan is L&P's favorite character, it's unlikely we'll see Taylor there. But if that happens and Taylor is there, then Dylan will come out of this situation with dignity.
...

You will burn in hell for this statement. And the Sam fans will dance around the fire.
But seriously, I don't think L&P will have any sympathy for any character in this game after 6 years of development. That's just the way things go, everything becomes ordinary (except Sophia of course, maybe).

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I will slightly supplement my previous post.
I have no doubt that this evening is dedicated to Dylan and Sophia, especially since the author himself stated this. But I think that it is on this evening that Sophia can relax and have some fun, and she will obviously not be deprived of attention from strangers men. It's just that Sophia won't pay much attention to other men tonight, maybe just a little, and right now, along one of the routes in the game, Dylan may start to like to see how others try to get his mother.
Unlike many others, I wonder where the path on which Dylan likes to see Sophia with other men will lead. But still, I think Liam is more suitable for this role.

Dylan doesn't have to learn that other men like Sophia and might try to get her. He already does. Not in the last consequence, but I can interpret the repeated attempts to persuade his mother to enter a model career in this way.
In real life, a person like Dylan has to learn how to deal with jealousy and humiliation, and always be in the second row.
In real life, a person as young as Dylan, son or not, must understand that the woman of his desire has a sexual past and he must be able to deal with this knowledge.
You can interpret the telling of Sophia's first time as a cuckold event for Dylan, and the raising of the counter proves that, but you can also see it as a maturation process for Dylan, how much his mother is ahead of him and what he still has to learn.
Only this is a porn game and my comments are just pseudo-intellectual babble.