VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't think Dylan or Ellie will spend a few hours fishing with Liam. When at the casino, Sofia can choose to remind her husband to leave, and Liam obeyed his wife and left the casino. As for Dylan's affairs at school, Sofia insists on handling them herself rather than letting her husband intervene

But that's not how the story was written with the example of the schooling affairs that you presented. There are only two options that the reader can select: You can either have Sophia handle it or send Dylan and Zac to boarding school, In which the only option that Liam plays a part is recommending that Dylan learns MMA. And even if Dylan knows MMA, L&P said that it wouldn't be used against Aiden because he is a "JUNIOR" crime lord, and he can shoot up Parker's residence with the hundreds of "JUNIOR" crime lord minions if Dylan would confront Aiden.

The MMA is used in other events, which makes me wonder what was the purpose of the suggestion if it's not going to be used since Aiden was the driving force behind it.

How would have Liam handled it, if there was an option for Liam to handle it and knowing the history of Aiden?

 

[hzjujk]

When there are so many inconsistencies in the script,when part 1 has little resemblance to part 2 its like putting in scenes from all 3 LOTR to make a new film and in the ned it makes no sense.

You are trying to criticize a certain topic. One responds to it, does not even reject the criticism, but only tries to convey a different view. And then your argument becomes so general, just a big frustration hammer, so that any further discussion is stifled.

 

[Old Dog]

You are trying to criticize a certain topic. One responds to it, does not even reject the criticism, but only tries to convey a different view. And then your argument becomes so general, just a big frustration hammer, so that any further discussion is stifled.

Yes that the script is bad when the dev injects a storyline just to progress an event when it has been stated that Sophia has never modelled before but later we learn that she has and this is makes the sstoryline disjointed and unable to run smoothly.
But if you think that the script is great fair enough I will say no more.

 

[tofhdns]

Why badly written? Actually it's awesome. Sophia's husband is not an absolute asshole like in many other games. He's a little too convinced of himself, he doesn't realize how much he depends on his wife, how much she supports him and has his back free, he's driving in the fast lane professionally and has his wife raising his children leave. Otherwise he is loyal, sometimes even caring and brings the money home.
I think it should be hard to "cheat" Liam. They say it's a poorly written script. I think that's on purpose.
If I were the developer and gave the player the choice to keep their avatar Sophia walking down the path of corruption while at the same time making the player feel bad about the character Liam - I would consider that a success.

Oh, and Liam isn't that present that the NTR haters are running amok here.

The characters in this game, there are things that make them undefinable.

Sophia is smart but sometimes naive, protecting herself like a nun, but opening up too easily. Moreover, while she advises Dylan to find a girlfriend, she also accepts the role of Dylan's sexual partner.
She mocks her husband when he talks about swapping but she imagines sexual fantasies with Andy.

Dylan appears shy, but he leads the nightlife and is tempted by many women, but he also harbors a fear of women.

Aiden and Morello are quite violent, but quite gentlemen.

Liam achieved success by working diligently for his family, but jeopardized their well-being through gambling. He plays basketball with his son, but often ignores son and enjoy his own time. Marrying Sophia due to her pregnancy, but he proves disloyal because he's discussing swapping and he's spying on Cathy, even running away from a clothing store.

He's not dependent on his wife bacause he ignore her opinions at casino, tell her to send Dylan to martial arts dojo, and go fishing by himself.
Also, while he was conservative with his wife, but he failed to protect Sophia twice in front of the boss, and he even suggested swapping to his wife.

Liam is the same as Dylan, or not. because Dylan gets angry when others see Sophia's body, but at the same time he encourages Sophia to show off her body. Similarly, Liam dislikes people looking at Sophia's body, but he allowed it three times.

I don't think if the characters are well made.

 

[tofhdns]

And Liam abandoned a woman at a clothing store and ran away in a hurry, and Sophia met the woman at company.

This was to motivate Sophia to 'suspect and cheat' on Liam.

This is the device the developer intended, but he seems to have forgotten this.

 

[armion82]

Which makes sense as you always hold the best storyline to the end.

Not really,because he will keep the movers for the last 2 or 3 days.
And the thugs that try to rape Sophia.
And probably the side jobs.
And task 12.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

You're happier than Donald Trump at a cheerleading convention.

Or Biden in a kindergarten?

 

[tofhdns]

karleston, aren't you too fast?

were you waiting for me?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

But that's not how the story was written with the example of the schooling affairs that you presented. There are only two options that the reader can select: You can either have Sophia handle it or send Dylan and Zac to boarding school, In which the only option that Liam plays a part is recommending that Dylan learns MMA. And even if Dylan knows MMA, L&P said that it wouldn't be used against Aiden because he is a "JUNIOR" crime lord, and he can shoot up Parker's residence with the hundreds of "JUNIOR" crime lord minions if Dylan would confront Aiden.

The MMA is used in other events, which makes me wonder what was the purpose of the suggestion if it's not going to be used since Aiden was the driving force behind it.

How would have Liam handled it, if there was an option for Liam to handle it and knowing the history of Aiden?

Dylans fight training works great against a drunken hobo

 

[FullyAnimated]

Not really,because he will keep the movers for the last 2 or 3 days.
And the thugs that try to rape Sophia.
And probably the side jobs.
And task 12.

Like I said - best story for the last.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

karleston, aren't you too fast?

were you waiting for me?

Facepalm first, think later?

 

[qashqai3047]

This fucking update is taking long enough time, what the fuck this motherfucking cunt is doing

 

[tofhdns]

Facepalm first, think later?

He was so fast that I doubted if he had read.

 

[Old Dog]

The characters in this game, there are things that make them undefinable.

Sophia is smart but sometimes naive, protecting herself like a nun, but opening up too easily. Moreover, while she advises Dylan to find a girlfriend, she also accepts the role of Dylan's sexual partner.
She mocks her husband when he talks about swapping but she imagines sexual fantasies with Andy.

Dylan appears shy, but he leads the nightlife and is tempted by many women, but he also harbors a fear of women.

Aiden and Morello are quite violent, but quite gentlemen.

Liam achieved success by working diligently for his family, but jeopardized their well-being through gambling. He plays basketball with his son, but often ignores son and enjoy his own time. Marrying Sophia due to her pregnancy, but he proves disloyal because he's discussing swapping and he's spying on Cathy, even running away from a clothing store.

He's not dependent on his wife bacause he ignore her opinions at casino, tell her to send Dylan to martial arts dojo, and go fishing by himself.
Also, while he was conservative with his wife, but he failed to protect Sophia twice in front of the boss, and he even suggested swapping to his wife.

Liam is the same as Dylan, or not. because Dylan gets angry when others see Sophia's body, but at the same time he encourages Sophia to show off her body. Similarly, Liam dislikes people looking at Sophia's body, but he allowed it three times.

I don't think if the characters are well made.

Every character seems to be looking out for themselfs and to hell with consequences.
Liam did encourage Sophia to look sexy as he said before the prison visit"people can look but not touch" but now when the boss came to visit he was upset that his boss was looking at Sophia,maybe it was Sophias flirting with him.
My thought is that if Liam was unhappy whith the way Sophia behaves with his boss how will he cope when his wife fucks Andy?
It all may seem great in fantasy but happen in real life could be very different for the Parkers

 

[Old Dog]

If I remember correctly the clothes store and Liam runing away was when Liam was supposed to be cheating on Sophia but the dev changed his mind on this.

 

[Deleted member 3218369]

Best scene in the entire game

 

[tofhdns]

Every character seems to be looking out for themselfs and to hell with consequences.
Liam did encourage Sophia to look sexy as he said before the prison visit"people can look but not touch" but now when the boss came to visit he was upset that his boss was looking at Sophia,maybe it was Sophias flirting with him.
My thought is that if Liam was unhappy whith the way Sophia behaves with his boss how will he cope when his wife fucks Andy?
It all may seem great in fantasy but happen in real life could be very different for the Parkers

I don't know because Sophia did it to punish Liam and Liam felt bad about Sophia's behavior.

Besides, it was after Liam told her about swapping that Harris visited house.

I know people have a hard time discussing 'consistency or reality', so I try to avoid using the word as much as possible, but when 'consistency or reality' breaks down, reasoning becomes impossible. like this.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

If I remember correctly the clothes store and Liam runing away was when Liam was supposed to be cheating on Sophia but the dev changed his mind on this.

IMO that would have flowed better on the filth side if Liam was cheating, as that would have represented a rift in their marriage instead of what he's trying to write now. The scene with Cathy in the wedding shop hinted that she was into Liam.

GW path - Swinging or faithful.
Filthy path - Liam and Sophia cheat on each other as their marriage drifts apart.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't know because Sophia did it to punish Liam and Liam felt bad about Sophia's behavior.

Besides, it was after Liam told her about swapping that Harris visited house.

I know people have a hard time discussing 'consistency or reality', so I try to avoid using the word as much as possible, but when 'consistency or reality' breaks down, reasoning becomes impossible. like this.

Punish him for inviting the boss round to watch a match I wonder what punishment Liam will dish out to his cheating wife?

 

[Old Dog]

IMO that would have flowed better on the filth side if Liam was cheating, as that would have represented a rift in their marriage instead of what he's trying to write now. The scene with Cathy in the wedding shop hinted that she was into Liam.

GW path - Swinging or faithful.
Filthy path - Liam and Sophia cheat on each other as their marriage drifts apart.

It was hinted that something may of happened between them,Liam/Sophia,Andy.Cathy back in there college days when they visited them but it was very vague.