PimbyBoink

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So if this next update is around 400 renders and it took him a little less than 4 months for the renders (88 workdays because everyone should take the weekend to rest :)) it's going to be about 5 renders a day.
I guess we can assume the man is doing only this for work and he works everyday for about 4 hours to get that many renders done?

At the end of the day everyone would surely prefer he worked full days and the pace doubled but I say, we're still living in the patreon world and this world has its own rules. He's an independent artist doing this type of creative work for years now and he's still at it. It's easy for someone in this situation to have had enough of the pressure, and after getting enough money, to just want to enjoy more of life and less of work (milfy city's creator Icstor comes to mind).

It would also be nice, if he does want to enjoy more of life, for him to just pay someone to do the work. It would probably still be quite profitable and he could then just relax or work much less. But this is easier said than done with artistic work. There are plenty of AWAM copycats out there, extra stories etc, none of them approaches the level of quality of the original imo, not in terms of script, much less in terms of renders.

But damn, I really wished he could update the game every 2 months with 400 renders, that would be the sweet spot. But oh well, I'm just glad he is still going :)
 

SD0083

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So if this next update is around 400 renders and it took him a little less than 4 months for the renders (88 workdays because everyone should take the weekend to rest :)) it's going to be about 5 renders a day.
I guess we can assume the man is doing only this for work and he works everyday for about 4 hours to get that many renders done?

At the end of the day everyone would surely prefer he worked full days and the pace doubled but I say, we're still living in the patreon world and this world has its own rules. He's an independent artist doing this type of creative work for years now and he's still at it. It's easy for someone in this situation to have had enough of the pressure, and after getting enough money, to just want to enjoy more of life and less of work (milfy city's creator Icstor comes to mind).

It would also be nice, if he does want to enjoy more of life, for him to just pay someone to do the work. It would probably still be quite profitable and he could then just relax or work much less. But this is easier said than done with artistic work. There are plenty of AWAM copycats out there, extra stories etc, none of them approaches the level of quality of the original imo, not in terms of script, much less in terms of renders.

But damn, I really wished he could update the game every 2 months with 400 renders, that would be the sweet spot. But oh well, I'm just glad he is still going :)
A porn game took more than seven years to make and never got a real sex scenes, this is not normal. What's more, it could be abandoned at any time.So such work efficiency is obviously unacceptable to its sponsors.
 

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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-185-lust-passion.5944/post-1453794
And Sophia's first sex with someone other than her husband will be in game day 26 (PD19).

And a few people, myself included, are guessing Sofia's first sex partner is "Natalie".

But, at the current rate, there's a 10000000000000% chance we won't see it.
PD19 is the milestone for her 1st heterosexual cheating I think. Before Natalie there are 2 hetero & 3 lesbian events expected. If Sophia is not a participant then the possible couples are:

Hetero
- Dylan & Christine (sleepover v 0.195)
- Dylan & Ellie (v 0.195 or PD16)
- Ellie & Logan (PD16)

Lesbian
- Ellie & Christine (v 0.195)
- Patricia & Zoey (PD15)
- Ellie & Julia (PD16)
- Ellie & Blondie (PD16)

PD16 looks like a heavy day for Ellie…
 
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tofhdns

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PD19 is the milestone for her 1st heterosexual cheating I think. Before Natalie there are 2 hetero & 3 lesbian events expected. If Sophia is not a participant then the possible couples are:

Hetero
- Dylan & Christine (sleepover v 0.195)
- Dylan & Ellie (v 0.195 or PD16)
- Ellie & Logan (PD16)

Lesbian
- Ellie & Christine (v 0.195)
- Patricia & Zoey (PD15)
- Ellie & Julia (PD16)
- Ellie & Blondie (PD16)

PD16 looks like a heavy day for Ellie…
Don't miss this developer's pun.

Others are sexual events, not sex events.

The only known sex event is PD19, which is specified as lesbian sex.

And PD19 is the day Natalie returns.

This has already been discussed with some people a long time ago.
I'm busy with other things, so I can't find the information for you, but if you look for it, you will find it.

For reference, I don't know about other people such as Dylan.
I'm talking about Sophia.
 
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hu lover

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Don't miss this developer's pun.

Others are sexual events, not sex events.

The only known sex event is PD19, which is specified as lesbian sex.

And PD19 is the day Natalie returns.

This has already been discussed with some people a long time ago.
I'm busy with other things, so I can't find the information for you, but if you look for it, you will find it.
Very informative and well thought post. :p (y)
 
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Bibifoc

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It just is nonsense. This 'testing' should be a playthrough to see if renders and the handful of decisions a player can make are all in order and working as intended. That's it. L&P never had this progress bar before, and it was never needed. It's just yet another way of delaying updates so he can work less while giving patrons the illusion of 'something is happening'.
Sorry but on this one, you're wrong.
Before this "testing" bar appeared , there were always few time (maybe 1-2 days) between all bars at 100% and the real release. And every time people complained about what happened meanwhile. And it was the testing/finalizing (these 20% are probably L&P testing part and I'll have my part - gallery + testing the update). So L&P added this bar. And now, "no this bar means nothing, it's just to fool patrons...". These endless fucking conspiracy theories "blabla nothing happens, he just want to delay...". How many times I ended my day late night (or early morning :rolleyes: ) because as fucking usual something goes wrong while here people were like "Hihi, he does nothing he just want to delay to the 1st". There are a shitload reasons to complain about L&P/AWAM but you, guys, are really annoying kids.

On the paper it seems easy? I totally agree it also always seems easy to me... but I see that it always takes longer than expected. And I can't explain it. That's why I already answered to some guy here that he should try to do things, instead of just guessing. It might be different than what he expected.

This last part also includes my availability. Sorry guys but I can't just jump on the job as soon as L&P snaps his fingers.
 

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It just is nonsense. This 'testing' should be a playthrough to see if renders and the handful of decisions a player can make are all in order and working as intended. That's it. L&P never had this progress bar before, and it was never needed. It's just yet another way of delaying updates so he can work less while giving patrons the illusion of 'something is happening'.
 
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So if this next update is around 400 renders and it took him a little less than 4 months for the renders (88 workdays because everyone should take the weekend to rest :)) it's going to be about 5 renders a day.
I guess we can assume the man is doing only this for work and he works everyday for about 4 hours to get that many renders done?

At the end of the day everyone would surely prefer he worked full days and the pace doubled but I say, we're still living in the patreon world and this world has its own rules. He's an independent artist doing this type of creative work for years now and he's still at it. It's easy for someone in this situation to have had enough of the pressure, and after getting enough money, to just want to enjoy more of life and less of work (milfy city's creator Icstor comes to mind).

It would also be nice, if he does want to enjoy more of life, for him to just pay someone to do the work. It would probably still be quite profitable and he could then just relax or work much less. But this is easier said than done with artistic work. There are plenty of AWAM copycats out there, extra stories etc, none of them approaches the level of quality of the original imo, not in terms of script, much less in terms of renders.

But damn, I really wished he could update the game every 2 months with 400 renders, that would be the sweet spot. But oh well, I'm just glad he is still going :)
Very balanced point of view. Of course he want to enjoy life. LP is stretching as much as he can the development time in his benefit. If he sees that patreons contributions are stable he has no reason to speed up … or he is speeding the earnings are the same … the only way to improve the delivery time is to hire a team and manage it … but than he can go down with his profit because he has to pay salaries and it is not certain that the turnover will increase if he delivers faster … I think he knows now what he is doing and we can not judge … It is not the end of the world … he is an artist and his art is great … about the character and management skills we can discuss
 

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Gave you something to jerk off to, and the update isn't even out yet, huh?

Sorry but on this one, you're wrong.
Before this "testing" bar appeared , there were always few time (maybe 1-2 days) between all bars at 100% and the real release. And every time people complained about what happened meanwhile. And it was the testing/finalizing (these 20% are probably L&P testing part and I'll have my part - gallery + testing the update). So L&P added this bar. And now, "no this bar means nothing, it's just to fool patrons...". These endless fucking conspiracy theories "blabla nothing happens, he just want to delay...". How many times I ended my day late night (or early morning :rolleyes: ) because as fucking usual something goes wrong while here people were like "Hihi, he does nothing he just want to delay to the 1st". There are a shitload reasons to complain about L&P/AWAM but you, guys, are really annoying kids.

On the paper it seems easy? I totally agree it also always seems easy to me... but I see that it always takes longer than expected. And I can't explain it. That's why I already answered to some guy here that he should try to do things, instead of just guessing. It might be different than what he expected.

This last part also includes my availability. Sorry guys but I can't just jump on the job as soon as L&P snaps his fingers.
That's cool and all, but how come you're not asked to do your thing during "Programming&Translation", you know, since you're doing that kinda stuff. Are you trying to tell me that he couldn't have you work on the gallery then? Why does that require another bar instead of using the existing one to convey the actual progress? How is "final coding" translated to "Bibi updating the Gallery"? And now the bar is progressing without you even doing anything yet? You say that is his part? His part should be 100% done by the time he's reaching this new one, and it should be called "Final playtest" if anything (still think it's entirely pointless). All the programming, coding and whatever should be done when Programming reaches 100%. The workflow for this project is an absolute joke, and Viper had already pointed that out in the offtopic thread a while ago.

He's adding this other bar so he can work at his pisspoor pace and call you in later whenever he is ready. That's why this new bar is useless. That's why this bar is yet another way of giving his supporters something to look at. You can't deny that L&P is getting slower every single year, and there's absolutely zero reason to add another progress bar other than giving L&P more room. You said it yourself, before this bar existed, the updates would have been released 1-2 days after 100% progress was reached.

I stand by my point, and the reason for that is the constant slowdown of this project. The bar is useless, and there is a reason he's adding it. Told you why. Besides, my post had nothing to do with L&P delaying the update to the 1st, but maybe reading and understanding are two different things, huh? So yeah, go call someone else a kid, boyo.
 
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