Alley_Cat

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A big reason why I sincerely think he needs to trim the fat.

Don't worry about the characters and relationship very few care about.

Rough list of those I'd keep as mainline characters/scenarios:

1. Dylan and Ellie (for the incest lovers)

2. Sam and his family

3. The HS kid (Aidan is his name, IIRC) and his one buddy. Drop the idea that he's a teenage boy with a posse of adult, tattooed thugs (lol).

4. Maybe one I'm forgetting or maybe have a fan vote.

These people get the most time and 90% of the rest of the VN involves them.

The side characters that you see for small bits and may even knew day get what they want are:

1. Her sister

2. The postman

3. The principal and/or teacher that's blackmailing her

4. Sex Ed kids

5. Old dudes in the retirement home

6. Mob boss

That's about it but admit I may be missing or overlooking some.
These all get no more than 10% of the story and time to make it. Forget the museum dudes, randoms met at a sauna, randoms met at a bar with your daughter and randoms in general. Drop them entirely.

Focus the story by trimming the fat but I'm not sure he's capable. He's too tied to his claim of having it all pre-written (total BS) or too poor/unwilling of a writer to change what needs to be changed.

As is, there are currently people that have waited years between the characters they like. Years, lol. Years have passed since they got to see Sophia with a character they play the game for.
Currently, a lot of pretty mainline players are going to wait...3 or 4 updates...for someone they like. At his pace that's at least a year. A LOT of people are going to be out for a while unless he trims the fat. I don't think you're alone.
You would get rid of Patricia but keep Aiden? Patricia is essential to all the Filthy routes (to different extents), whereas Aiden only matters to the Dylan route. She has a far greater influence in corrupting Sophia than Aiden so far. I don't believe Sam or Ellie even know who Aiden is.

Plus she's hot, and her dialogue is often hilarious.
 

RNasc4444

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I keep following the gallery of this game on another website in hopes that someday there will be meaningful content with a female character that isn't the MC.

Honest question to anyone that plays this game. If I don't like the MC (or find her attractive at all since I'm not into curvy milfs), is there any reason to play this? From the replay scenes, the supporting female cast looks absolutely amazing but they seem to have little to no worthy content at all.

It's insane how I've been lurking on this game for over 3 years and never played it or even tried downloading it at all. AND THIS IS THE SECOND FREAKING SEASON.
 

Nikolai 420

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For those who are looking for the Android version here's the link. It's not through Mega FYI.

 

trashcop

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What would you have done differently?
Are you really going to defend L&P to me? Dude, are you really going to defend it to me after this update? I understand that you are a Dylan supporter and before the release of part 2, we have an update without a single animation, without any scenario depth, and you like it? Dude, after constantly hearing that part 2 will be better, I can say that part 1 was 100 times better than this new version. L&P started to abuse people's love for the game. If this version was as good as the previous one, I would be a patreon member thinking that there is a real improvement, now I'm thinking of leaving the game. So stop sucking up and show your real reaction. If everyone shows their reaction, maybe we will see more satisfying progress in a shorter time.
 
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SuperPerv96

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It's because that scene was done from Sophia's point of view. It's hot seeing her react to the situation and give in. This update was done oddly, where it felt like we were mostly in Dylan's head, and then sometimes we were shortly in Sophia's. And it doesn't help that Sophia never completely lets herself just enjoy the fucking moment. As soon as anything happens, she has to have a monologue expressing doubt and confusion. You're just constantly getting out of the moment.

By any metric, this was a "hot" update. Yet I felt nothing. Probably just time to take a break for a few years. Especially considering the next update won't have any Sophia, then he's taking a break to make a steam version. It's very likely that we won't see Sophia again until next Spring or Summer.
Same its the same issue i had with the last update, the MC of the Story its supposed to be Sophia, not Dylan, and yet in this update and the last, we kept listening to Dylan's thoughts and feelings, which i wouldnt mind knowing some bits of Dylans, feeling, but i want to know everything thats going into Sophia's mind not just few bit and pieces every now and then, also i would have likes it more if there was no alcohol involve, because that way Sophia wouldnt be able to use her drukness as a shield for her actions i would also like that she recognize more her feeling for Dylan, like when she was getting ready for the date she says: 1693182356938.png
She could have said something about teasing him or because she like she is going to go crazy or something like that.
I liked how playful they were in the jacuzzi, and that finally Sophia's took some initiative and took of her panties. even if it was for a brief moment
 
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hu lover

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I have joined f95zone in July 2017. This game was brand new back then and one of the most promising. What did people get in 6 years? 6 years!
Well, many have already overlooked this new update, and were very disappointed. Such a long wait, and we receive content like this? This is fucking bullshit. We need an update that is more worth our while, this update wasn't.
 

ladymxiang

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Well, many have already overlooked this new update, and were very disappointed. Such a long wait, and we receive content like this? This is fucking bullshit. We need an update that is more worth our while, this update wasn't.
If it did not happen in 6 years...

I get that some people enjoy the story, a certain kind of eroticism, but there is literature for that. Many, many authors that can actually write.
 
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hu lover

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If it did not happen in 6 years...

I get that some people enjoy the story, a certain kind of eroticism, but there is literature for that. Many, many authors that can actually write.
Well despite the poor writing in some games these days, its hard to enjoy good story in some games because the writing is so poorly done. We need more experienced writers and programmers for games, that will ensure faster updates, and guarantee better erotic content.
 

multiplex1

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i keep getting this error message.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

After loading the script.
PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Owner\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 275, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\main.py", line 536, in main
renpy.savetoken.upgrade_all_savefiles()
File "G:\Entertainment\CGGs (Computer Generated Games)\RenPy\Miscellaneous\A Wife And Mother\Main Game\AWAM-Part2_0.190-pc\renpy\savetoken.py", line 251, in upgrade_all_savefiles
with open(upgraded_txt, "a") as f:
PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Owner\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.190 0.190
Sun Aug 27 18:06:27 2023

please fix
 
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