VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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Atsuya26

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Why the v0.190 is crashing on joiplay? Other versions works fine but why the new version crashes on joiplay(you can't even get to the title screen just crash after load) someone please help. If you got solution please help.Also if there's an Android port of the new version please link it.
 
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XaGnard said:
There is no problem with this event. Dylan and Ellie are probably the most important characters besides Sophia in this game. The story between the two of them and Sophia unfolds from the introduction to the present. Both in direct interaction with Sophia and in interaction between the two.

Also, I don't see it as tragic that Dylan has to choose between the second Sophia event and Ellie. The first Sophia event has already taken place and Dylan has already made progress with Sophia in the first update, which could ultimately have an effect on possible Sophia/Dylan/Ellie events. I at least would like it if L&P would include more events like that. That is what AWAM is about from my point of view.

Under no circumstances should this event be cut out. The events with Dylan and Ellie are just too good for that. There are good reasons why the two are so popular, and good reasons why this story-line has so much potential.
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This is one of those things you're going to defend it to the death, isn't it? So there's really no sense in arguing over it? Because what you're saying is that mission creep is a good thing and that editing a story should never make tough decisions.
 
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Radoslaw Wolf said:
Poll time!

When the "helper" will begin to work on animations?

☐ any moment now, he just returned from a surgery in Guatemala
☐ in December, when his term with the Swiss Guard in Vatican is over
☐ when all other bars are at 75% and it's no longer possible to keep it at 0%
☐ once patrons without Stockholm Syndrome are pissed off enough to ask
☐ nobody knows when L&P's personalities decide to flip
☐ none of your business, you damn rat pirate!
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Definitely the Stockholm syndrome thing :giggle:
 
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Super_Nova- said:
Damn... this thread is crazy.

6533 PAGES o_O

seriously.
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98% are:

- When the update?
- Hey, I want to help L&P(i have knowledge on Python and Daz)
- 6 years? whaaat!
- I hope my grandchildrens can be alive to see this game finished
- I,m not a RAT !!
- I'm done!! I will come back when update is out.
- L&P is milking his Patreons, this is unacceptable!

The rest there are discussions about small details in the released images about the game's route and conspiracy theories.

You're welcome, young Jedy
 
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XaGnard said:
There is no problem with this event. Dylan and Ellie are probably the most important characters besides Sophia in this game. The story between the two of them and Sophia unfolds from the introduction to the present. Both in direct interaction with Sophia and in interaction between the two.

Also, I don't see it as tragic that Dylan has to choose between the second Sophia event and Ellie. The first Sophia event has already taken place and Dylan has already made progress with Sophia in the first update, which could ultimately have an effect on possible Sophia/Dylan/Ellie events. I at least would like it if L&P would include more events like that. That is what AWAM is about from my point of view.

Under no circumstances should this event be cut out. The events with Dylan and Ellie are just too good for that. There are good reasons why the two are so popular, and good reasons why this story-line has so much potential.
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Your optimism in all honor, I would be really pleasantly surprised if the new Elli/Christine/Dylan event eventually connects back to the main Sophia path, but I don't believe it will.
While we did play a part of the Sophia/Dylan path for that day when we had Dylan go to the party, since all the other events, no matter which characters, ended up with certain yes/no decisions rather than sympathy points determining further progress on the individual path, I think that ends the Dylan/Sophia path.
When I read a book, I always find it confusing and disturbing at the beginning when the author suddenly changes the narrative perspective. Usually, however, the more the story progresses and the better I get to know the characters, the more I find the change of perspective refreshing. Especially since I know that the author will eventually bring the individual narrative strands together and they are important to the overall picture.
But the fact is here:
1. this new path seems to be a new side path that leads away from the main route and will no longer have any connection to the main narrative thread. And thus it is meaningless to the "big picture".
2. if you don't like the narrative from Dylan's point of view because you don't like the character, you'll never convince anyone it makes sense to keep telling the story this way.

But I have no influence on the way L&P tells its stories and for me personally that's okay. Of course I'm more interested in what happens next with Dylan/Sophia, Elli/Sophia, Patricia/Sophia or, for example, with the museum boys, but I think I'll also be entertained by this upcoming event because I'm neither super critical of a porn story nor specific fetishes have. I want to be entertained and that's always been the case at L&P (for me).
 
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Atsuya26 said:
Why the v0.190 is crashing on joiplay? Other versions works fine but why the new version crashes on joiplay(you can't even get to the title screen just crash after load) someone please help. If you got solution please help.Also if there's an Android port of the new version please link it.
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Make sure that you have the latest update installed for joiplay. I was having the same issue before doing this.
 
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XaGnard said:
The point is to tell the story of this game, which is clearly not just about Sophia, but about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother". Therefore, it can be important to show decisive developments outside of sophia's direct involvement, if these could ultimately have a effect back on her. For example, if something happens between Dylan and Ellie, then that is something that can affect Sophia, because she is the mother of this two, I hope you understand that connection.

Anyway, I recently re-watched the movie "The Godfather" again. Probably one of the best movies of all time. And shall I tell you what I have noticed? No one would be so simple-minded as to conclude from the title alone that all scenes contain in this movie must have a direct participation of Michael Corleone. That would only have unnecessarily restricted the film.

BTW, L&P has already described in its game description that there can be events written from a different perspective other than Sophia in this game. Considering how popular the story about Dylan and Ellie is, I see no reason to cut back here. Rather, L&P should consider expanding these types of events.
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The title of the game is A wife and Mother. The title is not A Brother and Sister or A Boy and a Girl.

Every update should revolve around Sophia.
 
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mahin007 said:
whats the next update about? next day morning? If I remember correctly ongoing day ended on last update
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Next update is the last or second to last update for the current ongoing day, which has been in development for almost 2 years now. It's a Dylan PoV update, and Sophia doesn't play a role in it. It's the alternative to the past two Sophia+Dylan updates, ending the current day. Dylan is going to a party, and it apparently also involves Ellie and some other characters.

I'm not quite sure if L&P has decided to cut the Dylan+Emma route, but if not, there's another update after that to finally conclude PD13.
 
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XaGnard said:
There is no problem with this event. Dylan and Ellie are probably the most important characters besides Sophia in this game. The story between the two of them and Sophia unfolds from the introduction to the present. Both in direct interaction with Sophia and in interaction between the two.

Also, I don't see it as tragic that Dylan has to choose between the second Sophia event and Ellie. The first Sophia event has already taken place and Dylan has already made progress with Sophia in the first update, which could ultimately have an effect on possible Sophia/Dylan/Ellie events. I at least would like it if L&P would include more events like that. That is what AWAM is about from my point of view.

Under no circumstances should this event be cut out. The events with Dylan and Ellie are just too good for that. There are good reasons why the two are so popular, and good reasons why this story-line has so much potential.
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1st part: Yes, Dylan and Ellie are important characters. However, Ellie goes to this party regardless of Sophia/Dylan's date. So, why do we not use Ellie POV at the party instead, since she is there with or without Dylan? If the party is so important that is. The fact we do not have this event regardless tells me that it isn't very important, or else it wouldn't be optional behind a route hardly anyone is playing.

Dylan & Ellie have more than enough chances to interact with each other outside of parties. They live together. Especially since this party has at least a few other characters (more branching) that doesn't have to do with their relationship or Sophia.


2nd part: This game relies on points & certain choices to get paths. It is very unlikely if not impossible that the Dylan/Sophia path can continue if they didn't go on a date. One path where they did go on the date (the handjob, cum on body, kissing etc.) and one where that didn't happen? Think about the complexity of that.

For an example, see how many "correct" choices had to be made to get Sophia in the bathtub topless. Now figure out a way for Sophia to get topless without all those "correct" choices being previously made.


3rd part: The Dylan & Ellie events are popular because they generally involve Sophia.


At best, this will lead to more complicated branching. And at worst, not be important at all. Or maybe that's reversed since the last thing this game needs is more complicated branching.


So my overall point still stands. LP has to make some sacrifices if he wants to complete this game. Is a party with Dylan/Ellie potentially interesting? Sure. But not interesting enough to create another half-dozen variables and side-routes to account for it.
 
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