Hotcoupleeasy

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It actually might. There's still the some setup for the Sam branch of the Ellie route, so something with both of them might be on the cards.

There's also the fact that a lot of you guys were bitching about how boring the Yoga event was going to be as a lesbian event, and it turned out to be primarily focused on Dylan anyway.

No Sophia whatsoever
I hope . This is good news. The next update has to include boys( and Sophia of course).
 

XaGnard

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bye

As I already told you, I am not interested in your opinion.

Talk to other people.
When I make a comment on a forum, I am addressing everyone in a thread, not just you. :)

That's just the way it is. You may like to ignore me (I think there's a function for that here), but I will continue to write what I want.
 
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humanno21

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Boring, Truth or Dare is such an cliche, and how he got rid of other guys is unrealistic. Plot is getting boring and full of cliches. There are also too many girls in scene.
Story wise if we disregard slowness and pretend that it is no problem, game is still not very good.
 

tofhdns

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When I make a comment on a forum, I am addressing everyone in a thread, not just you. :)

That's just the way it is. You may like to ignore me (I think there's a function for that here), but I will continue to write what I want.
If you wanted to talk with me, before I got tired of it, you should have at least tried to make your logic convincing. before copy-pasting the same thing.

I am tired of your behavior and I don't want to have any argument with you.

You can say your thing.

What I'm saying is, don't call me out by quoting my writing.

I clearly asked you to ignore me, before. Whether I'm right or wrong
 
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XaGnard

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If you wanted to talk with me, before I got tired of it, you should have at least tried to make your logic convincing. before copy-pasting the same thing.

I am tired of your behavior and I don't want to have any argument with you.

You can say your thing.

What I'm saying is, don't call me out by quoting my writing.

I clearly asked you to ignore me, before. Whether I'm right or wrong
As I said, you are free to ignore me, but I won't let you dictate anything to me. That means I will continue to quote you when I have something to say about what you have said. That's just how a forum works.

Please don't interpret this as a conversation just with you. I always speak to everyone and only refer to something that someone else (including you) has said.
 

sphynks80

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I never could manage Sophia to give that handjob to Dylan in the pool after their night date. Now I've read in the WT that main condition is that Sophia has not had sex with her husband yet. Can someone pleas tell me how to edit .py('s) to get this to finally happen...) Thanks in advance.
 
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trashcop

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Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of constructive criticism. I do this a lot myself, for example by saying that the game is much too slow in development and that the side stories (like the side jobs) should be cut. I also wrote that it would have been better if Dylan hadn't just got a BJ in this update. All criticism that is genuinely constructive makes sense and, in my opinion, belongs here. ... Also, I consider L&P bad at project management and you can tell by the fact that it took 6 years for this game to finally reach the mid-game. On this point, constructive criticism, if accepted, can have a very positive effect.

But it's just stupid to criticise a game for what it is. For example, there are some here who play AWAM even though they don't like an Incest story line. That's total bollocks. If these people then come here and want to turn the game around 180 degrees, it has nothing to do with constructive criticism, it's just pointless complaining. If someone really has such an inflexible idea of what a game should be like, they should perhaps make the effort to realise their vision themselves instead of trying to force L&P to bend his own ideas. Or to put it another way: "Just because you supported L&P in the past doesn't mean that you have the right to expect him to act the way you want him to". The decisions lie with the developer, as it is simply not possible for everyone here to make the decisions. Just think about it. You ideas about the game may make it a better for version for yourself, but it doesn't mean that others will see it the same way, because they have their own ideas, for a different version that you may also would not like. A game just can't be everything at the same time. So if you want to make the decisions, you have to develop your own game (I really mean that. Just give it a try ... ). Then you have the right to decide what the game looks like. That's the way it is here with all games and no crying will change that.
Every person is an expert in something. If there are areas where the producer is weak (and there are) then he needs to build a team. Even if he puts an advertisement, there will be a lot of people applying immediately. I think L&P is one of the best people in the market for game design. As for your point; I am not a good game designer but I can say that I am an expert in planning and scripting. But it's useless if you can't translate it into a game with code. If there are a few people who are good at designing games and writing code, including you, contact me and let's make a really good game.
 
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linkop

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yes we don't have to play the game, but as a member of patreon, I can only say that it's disappointing this game we love
 

XaGnard

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Every person is an expert in something. If there are areas where the producer is weak (and there are) then he needs to build a team. Even if he puts an advertisement, there will be a lot of people applying immediately. I think L&P is one of the best people in the market for game design. As for your point; I am not a good game designer but I can say that I am an expert in planning and scripting. But it's useless if you can't translate it into a game with code. If there are a few people who are good at designing games and writing code, including you, contact me and let's make a really good game.
I don't think I would even come close to L&P in terms of game design and rendering skills. Also, unfortunately, I don't have the time to try it out.

However, if you are seriously looking to participate in a project, there is a whole category in this forum with people who want to realize projects collectively (with very different approaches and skills). But please consider that in this case, you would be part of a team and would have to coordinate decisions. Still, it is clearly better than trying to force your ideas on L&P.
 
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Gogo1236

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I have never been so unsure of an update before. On one hand, the progression in the story was nice to watch, further developing Ellie' and Dylan's chemistry, Christine's part in the story moving along nicely, Dylan finally got a blowjob but at the same time the lack of imagination in getting rid of the boyfriends by conveniently producing basketball tickets out of Dylan's ass is mind boggling. Also what was that scene with Chuck Norris? Ellie's masturbation animation looked forced as well like she is DJing on her clit. Dialogue's looked like they were prompted by ChatGPT. Not a bad update but could have been lot better considering the fact that he took so much time for this.
 

bosspigs

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This version 0.195 has a lot of bugs. I had to redo some steps to get the Christine party option because I hadn't met one of the requirements in the cafeteria scene, but for some reason Sophia's scene with Sam doesn't happen in its entirety. The option to unbutton her bra does not appear and the scene ends. Another problem I saw is with the animation sequences, in the jacuzzi scene, for example, the animations of Sophia masturbating Dylan are giving an error and don't happen. In the scene with Dylan and Amber, and the treesome in the classroom, they are also giving errors. Has anyone else experienced this?
 

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The Sophia/Ellie sex scenes might start as early as PD16, but Sophia/Dylan around PD24. But considering PD24 might be as far as two decades away the chances of abandonment before then are probably significant.
I would think that on PD16, a big turning point should happen between Ellie and Sophia, Sophia will stop seeing Ellie only as her daughter and admit to herself that she desires her sexually and she accept this desires. And this will probably be the one of the last step towards crossing the line.
And given the number of events of Dylan and Sophia (only the next day 3) and their progress, I can’t imagine what fillers will be ahead to drag this out until day 24. I believe it will be much earlier.
 

Alley_Cat

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I would think that on PD16, a big turning point should happen between Ellie and Sophia, Sophia will stop seeing Ellie only as her daughter and admit to herself that she desires her sexually and she accept this desires. And this will probably be the one of the last step towards crossing the line.
And given the number of events of Dylan and Sophia (only the next day 3) and their progress, I can’t imagine what fillers will be ahead to drag this out until day 24. I believe it will be much earlier.
I'm sure L&P will think of something to stretch the Sophia/Dylan route out. Dylan already has twice the amount of events as Ellie.
 

Mihawkgod

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I don't think it's that bad yet. Dylan only has 3 events of 9 next PD, and none without Sophia.

In fact no events without Sophia for the foreseeable future.
Its not just Dylan tho, The pacing of this story is jarring and so is the pacing of the development. I am not a dev so i can't say much but looking at other devs, they are able to give solid updates in a good amount of time with decent story progression/sexual content/renders. Dev also has made dylan and neighbor's kid too important for my liking lol, i am fine with few seduction build up scenes but now we been on these 2 kids for past couple of updates as the main focus....dylan tryna seduce his mom, that kid trying sophia, dylan trying sophia and now dylans solo adventures. Again folks like it and it works but for me...i was here to watch sophia and her corruption through many different characters NOT a shota story with 2 kids and sophia being the trophy wife.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Its not just Dylan tho, The pacing of this story is jarring and so is the pacing of the development. I am not a dev so i can't say much but looking at other devs, they are able to give solid updates in a good amount of time with decent story progression/sexual content/renders. Dev also has made dylan and neighbor's kid too important for my liking lol, i am fine with few seduction build up scenes but now we been on these 2 kids for past couple of updates as the main focus....dylan tryna seduce his mom, that kid trying sophia, dylan trying sophia and now dylans solo adventures. Again folks like it and it works but for me...i was here to watch sophia and her corruption through many different characters NOT a shota story with 2 kids and sophia being the trophy wife.
A quick flick through the walkthrough will tell you that the only storylines for the Filthy route are Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia. Everyone else, from the movers, to Principal Johnson, to the subway thugs, even Bennett and Aiden, are only there to advance those four.

Only problem I have, which is now actually pretty moot, is that I haven't had an Ellie event in about 3 years. Not even briefly in the shower. All so that Dylan can have 3/4 of the events this playable day.
 
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Bibifoc

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This version 0.195 has a lot of bugs. I had to redo some steps to get the Christine party option because I hadn't met one of the requirements in the cafeteria scene, but for some reason Sophia's scene with Sam doesn't happen in its entirety. The option to unbutton her bra does not appear and the scene ends. Another problem I saw is with the animation sequences, in the jacuzzi scene, for example, the animations of Sophia masturbating Dylan are giving an error and don't happen. In the scene with Dylan and Amber, and the treesome in the classroom, they are also giving errors. Has anyone else experienced this?
At least for the animations problem you mentioned, a new version was released yesterday.
 
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