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What DM? The E-mail up there clearly tells a different story.
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They didn't find out the existence of AWAM with the link but far before. But the link created an ""official"" link between AWAM and Patreon. That's a problem.
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DM's between L&P and Patreon and L&P and the Forum mod.
Edit:
Also that email is a cookie cutter message they use.
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Yeah so if that's the case, L&P can only blame himself for creating content with underage characters and incest. Otherwise none of this would have been an issue. Can't blame F95 for it. They provided a link, L&P provided content against Patreon's rules.
I mean... I think we all can agree that it was only a matter of time. The fact he's got away with it for 7 years is crazy tho. lol
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Haven't seen any DM's so I can't really comment on it. And yes, the E-mail isn't exactly written by hand. Have seen a bunch of those in other threads.
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I believe staff commented on this stuff in AWAM's offtopic thread, but I missed out on all the fun more or less and didn't wanna catch up on like 10 pages or whatever. Should still be there tho.
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nope, that didn't help but the below quote from Alley-Cat shows the message that L&P posted on his discord, it was one of many screenshots in his discord of him talking about what happened.
He is not lying, he did state that F95 removed and then readded his patreon link on the screenshots we saw of his discord (they been deleted now). At that time they were posted in this thread, his patreon link was still added to this thread, its gone now.
However, you're correct that is not why he got banned as it has been shown several times now, the above quote from Alley_Cat shows why.
The reason why L&P is blaming F95 is not so much F95 itself, it's a member of F95 who has probably reported AWAM. Something I've said all along, there are over 7,391 pages and all of them have complaints about L&P and AWAM.
It doesn't take much to report someone on Patreon, you need an account and have access to a post on his page. Most Patreon accounts will have posts available for free but I can't say for certain that L&P does. Considering how long AWAM has been around, I would guess there would be at least one free post.
You must be registered to see the links
If there is one free post available for any Patreon account user, then it doesn't take much for one of his haters here on F95 to sign in to their Patreon account and report him. However, L&P certainly made it easy for someone to do that with how he presented AWAM on Patreon, its more surprising this didn't happen sooner.
Anyway, I don't really see why people still talking about the Patreon ban when it pretty much cut and dry what happened and AWAM will still continue on.
The truth will be revealed when we get the next event after Sophia and Vicky's BBC adventure is completed.
If Patreon reinstates the AWAM Patreon page and the Shota boys are present, then your post above has credence.
If Patreon reinstates the AWAM Patreon page and the Shota boys are Not in the next update - Not so much.
Cheers!!
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You have confirmed what I wrote and then started denying. Seriously.
The conspiracy within conspiracy I see here sometimes is mindboggling.
Earlier his account got suspended because of the link to Patreon here. This has been proven as true via shared DMs.
Admin here removed the link but shortly after it got reinstated by another one. Again, proven by DM.
Admin in question refused to remove it again despite multiple requests from L&P. Again DM as evidence + testimony from another admin from here.
Because the link stayed, Patreon had to react as this page directly links DoL (Patreon game) with AWAM, which is against Patreon ToS. Again, there is no question here. All proven with DMs.
Also the original troubles started because some spiteful blueballers from here reported the creator to Patreon, which shun the light on the link to begin with.
This is the story. There is nothing else.
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believe what you want; but it was L&P himself who posted on his discord the email received from patreon banning him for shota and incest. Was it a photomontage? I don't think so, I was there
There is no denying that his page got banned because of the shota and incest content.
But he got away with the shota and incest part for a long time though. If the f95zone admin had kept his/her ego aside and just removed the link to his patreon as requested, chances are that he would have gotten away with this longer.
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Some people wanna act like the link itself is why he's banned. Obviously it's the content connected to that link (as Bibifoc explained aswell), which is content L&P himself created and thus violated Patreon's ToS. The E-mail is pretty clear with that. So yeah, it was shota and incest, and L&P can only blame himself for it.
Wish I could see these DM's because right now I'd have to blindly believe what some people are saying, which I don't like. Also quite curious that they've apparently all been deleted.
Anyway... Nobody knows who did it. Pointing fingers at F95 users is braindead. Patreon surely didn't inform L&P about who or how they got what they needed for the ban either. So yeah, it is what it is.
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I disagree. Patreon can apply whatever rules they want and ban whoever they want. No problem ... but they are never never never clear in their messages. Never. In all messages I saw (not only for L&P), devs have always to guess what they really want to say or know. They can't just clearly name things. And suddenly you get those lovely unclear messages where you have 48/72 hours to fix things or you'll be banned. It's tiring.
I don't know why they do that but I'm quite sure it's on purpose. I saw messages where devs asked clear questions and answers are really vague. Whoever you talk to. It can't be a coincidence.
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I don't understand why people are still discussing about this Patreon ban..what's the point ? It's gone. The likelihood of getting the acc back is very very low. Also if he wants to start again with Pateron he'll have to get permission & make a LOTS of changes in the game starting from - underage looking male & female characters, incest, school setting, using brand names without permission. Eventually this game will start to lose popularity & we may not get a ending..
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Pretty clear in L&P's case I'd say. I mean, we can pretend that the 2nd sidejob doesn't exist, we can pretend that all the incest doesn't exist, underage looking characters... Sure, we can do that, or we don't.
I agree that there are cases where it's questionable tho.