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He is looking for new models. Come on it is a target rich environment and he is almost the CEO, always on the job.
The difference being Sophia likes Sam and hates Aiden. But, why should that matter.
It is called the marketplace. L&P has to decide what he will do. Ultimately he needs to decide if it fits his vision. If it does not, he proceeds down his path. If he was wrong he will find out. Not exactly like launching a rocket where wrong is usually a very fast answer. However, we all know that L&P is never wrong, has never said one thing and done another. It still is his choice. Just like it is our choice exactly how much suspension of belief we can tolerate or how much patience we will extend to him.
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Because Sophia likes Sam and she will give him some leeway where as Aiden she dislikes him.
Both are wrong in what they did though
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Something that's clear to me about AWAM is that it's not a race & nor should it be. There's an ongoing thread within the discussion which has lasted for years. Some of this is centred on "fairness", or various fans' perceptions of it. Fairness is something that we probably all could do with more of in RL. Maybe the fact that fairness has no place in a game that's meant to be at all realistic has escaped them but that's not the main issue.
Life doesn't work in the way that seems to be required by those who contend that,'if Dylan has done xyz, Sam should have abc' etc. When you really think about it there is already a rough balance between the main characters, which is no doubt there to keep the fans of the different routes relatively happy, or at least not too unhappy. IMO, it doesn't need to go further than this.
Life doesn't work in the way that seems to be required by those who contend that,'if Dylan has done xyz, Sam should have abc' etc. When you really think about it there is already a rough balance between the main characters, which is no doubt there to keep the fans of the different routes relatively happy, or at least not too unhappy. IMO, it doesn't need to go further than this.
I feel we are taking too close a reading here; it's becoming meaningless without full context and we can't really discuss with the "participants" because this is all just an electronic drama - we simply don't have all the facts (because there aren't any "facts" at all). Someone might ask L&P to get closure here. Sticking my oar in anyways... key to all this is Sophia's reaction. She's mad (because she's supposed to be) and she's mad in both instances - but if we were able to ask her at this moment what do you think her answer would be in comparing Sam's and Aiden's actions?
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Sam didn't start singing just yesterday. Just because he got his first performance on that day does not mean he learnt singing just recently. He is a good enough singer to impress a group of bikers who in the first place were just disappointed to hear that Teenagers are performing. Sophia loves his vocal skills. These are facts from the novel. You don't want to accept and live in wishful fantasy so you can reject everything, Great live in the fantasy.As far as swimming I learned in the Atlantic ocean. My kids in Hawaii. They had professional instructors. Other than playing submarine commander in a bathtub, I have never heard of holding your breath under water as a precursor. You don't hold your breath while swimming on the surface (Sam) you learn to turn your head and breath as you take your strokes (Swimming strokes you perverts).
Singing, yes professional singers learn lung capacity. Sam is on his first mini concert. Quit conflating him with a professional. Or are you saying anyone that sings in a shower now has great lung capacity. That is BS and again I need Suspension of belief to get to your ideas.
Where the hell do you get a minute. Again, just say 'I believe otherwise' Instead of making up BS that has no reality in the story. Which is fiction to start. It is your one constant.
So right now. Don't take a breath, go with just what you got. HOLD YOUR BREATH. Remember you head is shoved under water and you have no idea how long you will be down. Now add in the excitement you are between the legs of the woman you desire and you had just sucked her nipple and felt her breast. To imply you can easily do this is such cockamamy BS that I am not going to suspend for your ideas.
And as far as visibility that is not the scene is it? Jack Adams presented the exact scene in an earlier post. The water is perfectly clear. No bubbles, no ripples. ON this I charge you with a willful lie. You presented something to fit your view and not the fact of the situation.
Bad boy there! We are done here! No more discussion after that BS render you just dropped.
You know what my bad, I just replayed the scene and it is definitely not 1 minute. Infact it is fucking less than that. Sam's head is submerged in water not even for half a minute at max. Sophia pushes his head down when Liam is near the tub. They kiss and Sophia pushes Liam away and Sam's head is back up. That damn guy doesn't even need to know how to hold his breath underwater. Ofcourse i believe you wouldn't accept this either, because ofcourse your fantasy does not allow you to accept it.
When people move there are ripples in water. I guess you never heard about that too. That is one of the only renders which is close to giving us a perspective of how things would look to Liam from the outside. Even when Liam arrives there is movement made by Sophia and Sam in an attempt to hide Sam. Ofcourse there would be ripples. It is angle that makes the water look crystal clear in the other shot. If you don't believe me ( which ofcourse you don't) go back and look at the renders of ths scene, look at water, how there are ripples throughout even in the render where Liam is near Sophia. The only difference is the angle and how the lights are interacting with the water. The render that I posted is one of the very few that gives us a view of how it looks from the outside. A top angle is always better to look in the water than eye level but of course this is always me making up stories and not something that actually happens. Guess you need to experiment with water a little.
I'm using points from the renders, the dialogues from the scene, the exposition given to us in comparison to you, who is only adamant that no, zero chances of that happening. Makes it obvious who is giving the real BS. So keep at it. To each there own.
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It says unable to defend oneself. Sophia was unable to defend or stop Sam in that moment because she was cornered. She couldn't push Sam away as her husband was right there. So info for you, "tying someone up" is not the only way to make someone helpless.
Why, logical reasoning hurts ??
Example, your wife likes you but she is telling you numerous times not to touch her and yet you are doing it. Does that make your act correct.
Do you even know the meaning of sexual harrasment. It can be from anyone, your loved one or someone you hate. Because sexual harrasment means an unwelcome sexual advance, whether friend or foe doesn't matter. Just because someone likes you does not give you the licence to do whatever you want to their body even when they are telling you to stop. The reasoning you give won't hold up anywhere, any police station, any court. But ofcourse you are in a mood to reject everything I say. So fine. No more discussions on this.
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I already have Alyssa's Volleyball outfit ready for her and my santa suit ready to come down Alyssa's chimney
Time to get Alyssa's into her santa suit
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This, for me, is the main problem with the scene. If you consider a married woman to be fair game & Sam certainly thinks of Sophia in this way, the last thing you want is for her husband to find out. Regardless of how long he could hold his breath & having chosen to hide in the pool, his next logical move would have been to curl into a ball & hide in the corner beneath Sophia. Sheer terror would, perhaps, have assisted in keeping still & not breathing. Compensation could have been the delightful view he'd have.
What Sam did instead was to choose to take advantage of the situation & thereby place himself & the woman of his teenage fantasies, or "dreams" as he would have it, in great danger. That wasn't over-confidence, it was foolhardiness.
When I was a teenager aged 15, (I know, 'here we go again'...but bear with me), me & several members of my 'social circle' witnessed a man running, wearing nothing but a pair of trousers, as a car pursued him with headlights blazing. He ducked up a narrow side alley where the car couldn't follow & he hid, making himself as small as he could. We could still see him but the big bloke who got out of the car to look for him, passed him by & we didn't say anything. Being as small as possible worked.
Sam has obviously led a sheltered life & he's clearly never seen an enraged husband, or thought much about how Liam might react. If, he's to conduct a successful affair he needs to start thinking with his head, not his virginal knob & he should start now.
Just to be clear this reeks of your now all to typical BS. Sorry if this sticks in your craw but, you clearly don't have a clue. I will not waste anymore time on you at all. You are the Polar Opposite of Viperdonkey and I will treat you as such. He at least has facts and a purpose, You nada!Sam didn't start singing just yesterday. Just because he got his first performance on that day does not mean he learnt singing just recently. He is a good enough singer to impress a group of bikers who in the first place were just disappointed to hear that Teenagers are performing. Sophia loves his vocal skills. These are facts from the novel. You don't want to accept and live in wishful fantasy so you can reject everything, Great live in the fantasy.
You know what my bad, I just replayed the scene and it is definitely not 1 minute. Infact it is fucking less than that. Sam's head is submerged in water not even for half a minute at max. Sophia pushes his head down when Liam is near the tub. They kiss and Sophia pushes Liam away and Sam's head is back up. That damn guy doesn't even need to know how to hold his breath underwater. Ofcourse i believe you wouldn't accept this either, because ofcourse your fantasy does not allow you to accept it.
When people move there are ripples in water. I guess you never heard about that too. That is one of the only renders which is close to giving us a perspective of how things would look to Liam from the outside. Even when Liam arrives there is movement made by Sophia and Sam in an attempt to hide Sam. Ofcourse there would be ripples. It is angle that makes the water look crystal clear in the other shot. If you don't believe me ( which ofcourse you don't) go back and look at the renders of ths scene, look at water, how there are ripples throughout even in the render where Liam is near Sophia. The only difference is the angle and how the lights are interacting with the water. The render that I posted is one of the very few that gives us a view of how it looks from the outside. A top angle is always better to look in the water than eye level but of course this is always me making up stories and not something that actually happens. Guess you need to experiment with water a little.
I'm using points from the renders, the dialogues from the scene, the exposition given to us in comparison to you, who is only adamant that no, zero chances of that happening. Makes it obvious who is giving the real BS. So keep at it. To each there own.
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It says unable to defend oneself. Sophia was unable to defend or stop Sam in that moment because she was cornered. She couldn't push Sam away as her husband was right there. So info for you, "tying someone up" is not the only way to make someone helpless.
Why, logical reasoning hurts ??
Example, your wife likes you but she is telling you numerous times not to touch her and yet you are doing it. Does that make your act correct.
Do you even know the meaning of sexual harrasment. It can be from anyone, your loved one or someone you hate. Because sexual harrasment means an unwelcome sexual advance, whether friend or foe doesn't matter. Just because someone likes you does not give you the licence to do whatever you want to their body even when they are telling you to stop. The reasoning you give won't hold up anywhere, any police station, any court. But ofcourse you are in a mood to reject everything I say. So fine. No more discussions on this.
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Sam is young/inexperienced/hormones raging and pushed his luck with Sophia and after his concert performance he probably felt on top of the world
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i would like to see ellie fool around with school janitor, andre, trevor, tyrone, jamal 4 monster cock against a virgin pussy
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You are going to be so disappointed,I would stop playing now
