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L&P's Father-in-Law

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It is only natural that each of us has our own opinion. I am not encouraging anyone to praise L&P or love him and his work.
Then let people voice theirs, positive or negative. You don't need to nag everytime someone gives their opinion.

I'm trying to say that expressing your opinion, comments and dissatisfaction is acceptable with some, at least minimal, respect for the interlocutor or the game developer.
The game developer came here 1 year ago (or more) and disrespected everyone in this forum.
Respect is a 2 way street.
 

Sabertooth__

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Just to be clear this reeks of your now all to typical BS. Sorry if this sticks in your craw but, you clearly don't have a clue. I will not waste anymore time on you at all. You are the Polar Opposite of Viperdonkey and I will treat you as such. He at least has facts and a purpose, You nada!
Prove otherwise, that everything I have stated is false. You mentioned I chose a render that favoured my argument, I asked you to look at all the renders of the scene as they are evidence that there is the same amount of ripples in everyone.

If I am wrong about the time Sam's head was in water. I would like to hear your estimate. How long does it take to take five steps to the tub. Give a little peck and be pushed away to get the phone. The reasonable estimate for me is 30 seconds. The scene is in the game, I speak after just playing the scene. You can rehearse this scene yourself. There are renders which tell you exactly when Sophia pushes Sam's head down. Take five steps towards something, linger there as long as it takes to get a kiss and then get pushed away. 30 seconds is a max assumption for me. Sophia is in a hurry to push Liam away, which only further supports my claim. These are all the facts of the circumstance based on the scene which you can review yourself.

I actually am quoting the definition of sexual harrasment and not speaking of my own assumptions. You have Google to cross check what I said.

I posted the renders that give the best idea of what the tub would look like from outside as proof of what I say.

Here are the renders again as proof of what I say, whereas you have given nothing but only said that all I say is BS without zero basis.

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The first render shows the tub from where Liam stands only the angle is a bit higher than Liam's eye level and slightly distant. Sophia too is far away from where she sits.
If you can see there are ripples in both the renders here as well. They appear a lot distinct in the first one due to the lighting. Secondly because in the second one half the render is occupied by the seating area where there is not much water. Again I speak from what is visible. You can zoom in for yourself. And see every render from the scene. The amount of ripples in the water don't change throughout.

The factors affecting the visibility in the water in the first one are clearly the lighting and lower angle.
In the second render you don't see the lights on the other side of the tub, which will be in direct view of Liam when he looks at the tub. And the visibility from where Liam stands is even lesser.

Yet not once have I stated that there is zero chance of Sam being seen unlike you who has absolutely ruled out the possibility that he could not be seen.

You refuse to even think that when L&P must have made this render he has access to every angle possible, he must have felt the there is a way to hide after seeing things himself. He doesn't just throw in characters and not care about anything else like most Devs.

You also didn't consider the possibility that this render is done as a fan service too. He could easily have stopped Liam 5 feet away from the tub but that would not have been erotic. This is an erotic visual novel just for viewers sake. This render right here is not something that ruins the scene entirely since this render has zero impact on the events, yet you make a big deal out of it.

Everything that I said I have backed it up here. If you think I am BS you have to show how it is BS.

I have nothing against you. This started out as a normal discussion of the scene. You changed your tone to one that was more about ridiculing what I say or just calling it BS without a valid basis or a concrete argument. Hence why I replied aggressively.

If it hurt you in any way then sorry for that but I only reply back in an aggressive tone if I feel I am being replied too with an intent to mock or with aggression.

I have agreed with you in past on many things and have liked your opinions on various matters. How you want to process things from here on out I leave upto you.
 
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chholekulche

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will we ever see scenes with dylan? As Patreon doesn't allow incest. other creators changed the relationship to neighbour and all...but llp is sticking with its original roles
 

Sabertooth__

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will we ever see scenes with dylan? As Patreon doesn't allow incest. other creators changed the relationship to neighbour and all...but llp is sticking with its original roles
The game on his patron page is Decisions Of Life, where Dylan is a tenant. So no incest.

The original game Awam is distributed through his private website and the game that is there on this thread is Awam. So I wouldn't say there is anything to worry. Worst case scenario he might move to Subscribestar. He has an account over there.
 
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Bane71

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will we ever see scenes with dylan? As Patreon doesn't allow incest. other creators changed the relationship to neighbour and all...but llp is sticking with its original roles
Yes, we expect to see Sophia scenes with Dylan. On the next game day, they have two events. But unfortunately, something serious will have to wait for 5 or 6 years.
 
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darji

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The game developer came here 1 year ago (or more) and disrespected everyone in this forum.
Respect is a 2 way street.
I mean most people here are pirating his game. So I can understand his frustration. But then I did the same but i was impressed by it so I became a Patreon. Which I am for 5 games now. This Site is a curse..... XD
 

hzjujk

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Sam is young/inexperienced/hormones raging and pushed his luck with Sophia and after his concert performance he probably felt on top of the world
Right, Sam is a teenager and is on top of the success of the first concert right now. His body is flooded with serotonin, dopamine and then alcohol. "He" is a rock star and there are no social boundaries for a rock star, a rock star takes what he wants. If you were to ask Sam about it, he would indignantly reject it, but that's the nature of things. Sophia is a trained educator. She should know what is happening in Sam and how to evaluate his behavior. If Sophia still has some brains between her thighs then she will put Sam in her place at the next meeting and at best allow a tender kiss. Because the way Sam approached the matter, Sophia, as it were, run over should be clear to her that she will only be a station on his way up if she does not set limits for him now. As many have said here, Sam went too far, he exaggerated the game, but Sophia, with her silly teenage dreams, allowed it.
Now this game is not a pedagogical lesson but an erotic novella that means all these considerations are for the trash can and Sam will fumble Sophia on the chest at the next meeting and put her hand into her panties and Sophia will feel like she is in seventh heaven because she can finally have sex with a rock star.
 

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Right, Sam is a teenager and is on top of the success of the first concert right now. His body is flooded with serotonin, dopamine and then alcohol. "He" is a rock star and there are no social boundaries for a rock star, a rock star takes what he wants. If you were to ask Sam about it, he would indignantly reject it, but that's the nature of things. Sophia is a trained educator. She should know what is happening in Sam and how to evaluate his behavior. If Sophia still has some brains between her thighs then she will put Sam in her place at the next meeting and at best allow a tender kiss. Because the way Sam approached the matter, Sophia, as it were, run over should be clear to her that she will only be a station on his way up if she does not set limits for him now. As many have said here, Sam went too far, he exaggerated the game, but Sophia, with her silly teenage dreams, allowed it.
Now this game is not a pedagogical lesson but an erotic novella that means all these considerations are for the trash can and Sam will fumble Sophia on the chest at the next meeting and put her hand into her panties and Sophia will feel like she is in seventh heaven because she can finally have sex with a rock star.
Now Sophia will be teaching sex ed in San Alejo to a lot of teenagers and will probably be a live model for the apostles.
The mailman event will put her at ease to be seen by other people in her lingerie(care home/apostles)ect.
She will teach Zac/Sam/Dylan but make a game of it and live her teenager years all over again and then scream NO you cannot do that as I am a married woman and more than twice your age
 

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Someone should ask L&P if Sam will monkey business with Ellie too ;)
A little family drama would be interesting, Sophia finding out about Ellie and vice versa. Maybe Julia will find out what's going on :unsure:
 

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I don't want Liam to be shown as gullible idiot as does trusts Sophia but the f.w ending being linked to the gw ending concerns me
The message left the impression that it was up to Sophia.
Something like that: Fuck you Liam, you're a loser, I'm gone VS GW
 

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Someone should ask L&P if Sam will monkey business with Ellie too ;)
A little family drama would be interesting, Sophia finding out about Ellie and vice versa. Maybe Julia will find out what's going on :unsure:
I think that the Sam/Ellie hook up could be another branch off like Dylan/Emma choice
 

nexer

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I think that the Sam/Ellie hook up could be another branch off like Dylan/Emma choice
It would be interesting and I think the wicked ones are that work in parallel. In which case the protagonists would find out about each other :ROFLMAO:.
 

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The most successful series in Germany lately are the crime series. People need to be emotionally involved in other people's dramas.
In their own lives they don't, they don't want drama :ROFLMAO:
Sophia has created enough drama for at least 20 season and if somebody murdered Sophia can you imagine the amount of suspects that the San Alejo PD would have to look at?
Even Gibbs would have trouble with this one :LOL:
 
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nexer

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Which is the wrong attitude for Sophia to have, sure Liam has his faults but he has stayed loyal to Sophia
The most successful series in Germany lately are the crime series. People need to be emotionally involved in other people's dramas.
In their own lives they don't, they don't want drama :ROFLMAO:
 
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