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Talcum Powder

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For the tenth of December, this is really very little. But I'm refraining from making any assessments yet. I will judge the pace of development based on the indicators that we will have on the twentieth.
The graph is just his self-reported progress. I’ve also been doing some arithmetic on the side. A release after Jan 22 (allowing a generous 8 days of zero progress from Christmas through New Year’s Day) is a definite slowdown.
 
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Update 0.150 has been out for a long time, but given the unjustified (exclusively my personal opinion) high popularity of this game, sometimes there is a desire to discuss its individual points. The visual erotic novel begins as if all the participants were just born (exaggerating, but nevertheless). I'll break my post into 2 parts.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
A pretty woman up to 38 years old lived with her husband and children, worked, achieved career growth, raised children, respected and loved her husband ... As an object of sexual interest in the previous city, no one except her husband considered her. This left an imprint on her attitude towards sex. At the beginning of the game, she is presented as a Puritan, although separate sexual activities between wife and husband were allowed (exclusively between wife and husband) (role-playing games - for example).
What happened to a respectable wife and mother, that within just 2 weeks she turns into a depraved woman striving for various sexual experiments, and not with her husband, but completely strangers.
A decrease in the level of its moral principles corresponds to a free fall speed of 9.8 m / s2, and only too slow updates do not allow immediately assessing and covering the situation as a whole.
At the same time, I perfectly understand that the porn universe can explain any absurdities by the fact that this is porn, where everything is possible ...
 
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At the same time, individual forum participants are trying to independently justify or somehow explain certain actions and actions of the main character. But she thought so, and this she wanted to say by her action.
In fact, history does not know the subjunctive mood "if only, then ..." is only here and now. The author describes the current situation with the heroes of the story in renders, and explanations are given in dialogues or internal monologues.
Therefore, the rapid decline in the level of intelligence of Sophia, the complete lack of will to preserve her own personality is striking.
In the novel, she quickly degrades precisely as a person who is respected and appreciated by other people.
Sophia is seen by everyone as an object of sexual harassment and subsequently a body for sex entertainment, and she already internally agrees with this.
But this is not a primitive comic strip or a porn video. There must be some explanation for this destruction of personality.
Maybe she worked as a "day beauty" before moving, like Catherine Deneuve in the film of the same name, maybe she fell ill with uterine rabies (with certain diseases of the female reproductive system in women, uncontrolled libido can occur).
There are too many semantic and logical gaps in the game. Like driving on a flat road, on which suddenly deep gorges or mountains appear and no one understands how and from what it happens.
By the way, in order for Liam not to notice Sam in the jacuzzi, he must have eyesight - 18, but the author boldly introduced this tolerance into the game, reducing its quality. and there are more and more such moments.
Unfortunately.
 

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At the same time, individual forum participants are trying to independently justify or somehow explain certain actions and actions of the main character. But she thought so, and this she wanted to say by her action.
In fact, history does not know the subjunctive mood "if only, then ..." is only here and now. The author describes the current situation with the heroes of the story in renders, and explanations are given in dialogues or internal monologues.
Therefore, the rapid decline in the level of intelligence of Sophia, the complete lack of will to preserve her own personality is striking.
In the novel, she quickly degrades precisely as a person who is respected and appreciated by other people.
Sophia is seen by everyone as an object of sexual harassment and subsequently a body for sex entertainment, and she already internally agrees with this.
But this is not a primitive comic strip or a porn video. There must be some explanation for this destruction of personality.
Maybe she worked as a "day beauty" before moving, like Catherine Deneuve in the film of the same name, maybe she fell ill with uterine rabies (with certain diseases of the female reproductive system in women, uncontrolled libido can occur).
There are too many semantic and logical gaps in the game. Like driving on a flat road, on which suddenly deep gorges or mountains appear and no one understands how and from what it happens.
By the way, in order for Liam not to notice Sam in the jacuzzi, he must have eyesight - 18, but the author boldly introduced this tolerance into the game, reducing its quality. and there are more and more such moments.
Unfortunately.
As discussed earlier, The Dev missed the opportunity to stage time jumps/lapses where this could have more logically occurred. It would also have allowed him to age characters and avoid the worry he has with Patreon (but miss something he adores). The simplicity of his thirty days could have been snapshots of the times as they go along and a simple narrative to fill the space. Instead... Yeah you said it!:)
 

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Dylan may be the most popular character on and off the Patreon page, And Dylan could be the No 1 in the story. And probably the most popular and favorite character of all. But in progress, Dylan is way below the minor characters and Dylan's path is far backward than almost every other routes. Dylan cannot be compared to Sam. Because my boy Sam has come a long way in romance and progress.:love:

Dylan was such a popular character, his route were so boring. And all his routes are very slowburn. That’s why others aren’t interested in playing his routes.
Okay, if you think so that's fine.
But you just need to rethink, If people aren't interested in playing his route he wouldn't be voted as the most popular character.
I totally agree with what you are saying. But that was just before PD 12, Not every event was hardly hot before. But every event in PD12 is heating up. All upcoming events are starting to heat up. But two of Dylan's events in PD 12 have been excluded from progress. Except for Dylan's two events in PD 12, All other route events were very hot and made good progress.

But Dylan's path has so far failed to make much progress. Already, That looser Dylan is far behind in progress than minor characters or shota boys. Then my boy Sam's hot tub event will surely make all Dylan's fans sad and bored. Already Dylan's fans have lost some interest in Dylan's path. We already know that Dylan will have no progress until the next 2 to 3 PDs. But until then, do you think almost all Dylan fans won't lose interest in his routes? You may have forgotten that Sam still has an one event on PD 13.;)

In PD 13 we can all see hot scenes only at my boy Sam:love: event, Aiden and 2nd side job events. All the other Dylan events are just milking and blueballing events. And waste events.

There are no romantic and hot scenes in Dylan's path, After Sam's event, we'll have to wait until the next PD14 to see the hot (sights) scenes. OMG that means we all have to wait another year.:unsure::sneaky::(:cry:
 
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Talcum Powder

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You need to include the fact that creating and rendering is 80-90% of the process
Dude, there are several exchanges on this thread about this graph where I and others discuss the weight adjustments applied to each of the four development components identified by L&P.

So, before telling me what I need to do why don’t you first read up on what I’ve already done?

And, since it seems very relevant to mention here and because I believe honesty and transparency are usually the best policy, yes, I am playing both side jobs.
 
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You need to include the fact that creating and rendering is 80-90% of the process
Not the first time you say this, and I've tried to explain to you before that everything in Talcum Powder's graphs is taken into account, but it seems you decided to ignore that. Still doesn't change the fact that L&P once again apparently extended his development time for the entire playable day by possibly up to ~30% if not more, depending on render count for this update and the upcoming ones.

Here's what I had to say about the current progress:
It seems you've missed out on quite alot of information. In previous updates, L&P released 1/3rd of a playable day, so 3 updates for the entire PD12. Now, starting with PD13, L&P decided to go with more frequent event-based releases, split into 10 updates for the entire day.

He started working on update 1 this Monday, and so far we're seeing 5% progress each day, alternating between 'Created Scenes' and 'Rendered Scenes'. We're currently looking at approximately 40 days to complete both CS and RS if he keeps up this pace. After that comes the 'Photoshop' and 'Programming&Translation' part, which in theory shouldn't take much longer than 10 days combined considering the render count is most likely way lower for 1/10th of a full playable day, unless he decided to increase it once again.

That's 50 days in total for update 1 out of 10, not counting in any possible breaks and holidays etc. This is just my personal estimate, and I highly recommend following Talcum Powder's graphs as they are probably way more accurate.

Anyway, since we're in a really early stage of the development for PD13, we have no way of telling if every one of these updates has roughly the same size, or if there are smaller/bigger ones inbetween, so the total amount of time required for PD13 to be completed is pretty much unknown at this point. But if you were to ask me for my personal opinion, I'd tell you that we're probably looking at 18+ months of development for PD13.
With each passing day, this becomes more and more likely.
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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There's more about it than you can guess at first glance. She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work.
It's maybe a little difficult to see but yes she's wearing stockings.
the left hand pose is really wrong. says there are socks? but I don't see them, they are usually seen in the toes where they are thickest. in this photo she is wearing a bra, but there will almost certainly be a choice on whether to keep it or take it off.
 

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There's more about it than you can guess at first glance. She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work.
It's maybe a little difficult to see but yes she's wearing stockings.
The expression on Sophia's face in the picture is sad and worried. She is no longer looking forward to the school class. She doesn't enjoy teaching young people anymore. She looks like someone who never believed and never wanted to appear in front of a school class like that. I hope she can do Aiden's job and still keep her dignity.
 

Kakato

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LMAO. I'm looking forward to the letdown that's going to hit everyone once the update is out. Yeah, the preview is nice, but I stopped overhyping since a long time. Up until now, our expectations were never met when we based ourselves on the previews, no matter how sexy/nice they were. Now, you can disagree with my comment. It's your right and it's OK. We'll talk about it again once the update is out ;)

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Not the first time you say this, and I've tried to explain to you before that everything in Talcum Powder's graphs is taken into account, but it seems you decided to ignore that. Still doesn't change the fact that L&P once again apparently extended his development time for the entire playable day by possibly up to ~30% if not more, depending on render count for this update and the upcoming ones.

Here's what I had to say about the current progress:


With each passing day, this becomes more and more likely.
Then it should be much higher since creating and rendering is already at 10 percent
 

Alley_Cat

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The expression on Sophia's face in the picture is sad and worried. She is no longer looking forward to the school class. She doesn't enjoy teaching young people anymore. She looks like someone who never believed and never wanted to appear in front of a school class like that. I hope she can do Aiden's job and still keep her dignity.
Of course she's sad and worried. It's just before an Aiden task
LMAO. I'm looking forward to the letdown that's going to hit everyone once the update is out. Yeah, the preview is nice, but I stopped overhyping since a long time. Up until now, our expectations were never met when we based ourselves on the previews, no matter how sexy/nice they were. Now, you can disagree with my comment. It's your right and it's OK. We'll talk about it again once the update is out ;)

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Not entirely true. For the Ellie event I was expecting Ellie and Sophia to get naked. They did, with the added bonus of getting to watch Ellie jill off.

For the Nat event I was just expecting Nat to prance about in her maid outfit. Maybe a discussion about Sophia spying on Nat. Got much more than that.
 

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I totally agree with what you are saying. But that was just before PD 12, Not every event was hardly hot before. But every event in PD12 is heating up. All upcoming events are starting to heat up. But two of Dylan's events in PD 12 have been excluded from progress. Except for Dylan's two events in PD 12, All other route events were very hot and made good progress.

But Dylan's path has so far failed to make much progress. Already, That looser Dylan is far behind in progress than minor characters or shota boys. Then my boy Sam's hot tub event will surely make all Dylan's fans sad and bored. Already Dylan's fans have lost some interest in Dylan's path. We already know that Dylan will have no progress until the next 2 to 3 PDs. But until then, do you think almost all Dylan fans won't lose interest in his routes? You may have forgotten that Sam still has an one event on PD 13.;)

In PD 13 we can all see hot scenes only at my boy Sam:love: event, Aiden and 2nd side job events. All the other Dylan events are just milking and blueballing events. And waste events.

There are no romantic and hot scenes in Dylan's path, After Sam's event, we'll have to wait until the next PD14 to see the hot (sights) scenes. OMG that means we all have to wait another year.:unsure::sneaky::(:cry:
I know you are Sam fan. Fine. Ofcourse the only events that weren't erotic or had no progress in your eyes were Dylan events.

Also For The Last Time, People Here Need To Understand That Comparing Progress Based On Who Reached What Point of physical touch in How Many Interactions is stupid. Dylan and Sam struggle to see her boobs which was a walk in the park for Deshawn because he was there in a situation that made it possible. Zac got to see Sophia is really tiny bikini which was so difficult for Dylan and Sam or anyone because he worked at a tanning salon. So what happened in the 2nd side job cannot be used as any basis. She did because the interaction lead to that, it has not lead to that for any of the others.

Personally speaking I see a huge progress in the jogging event, where Sophia willingly let's Dylan massage her butt. She actually feels an attraction towards him which is explicitly mentioned in the narration and she also sees him as more of man than her son for a brief moment. Something no other character achieved.

A mental progress is one that generally does not show initial but has an outburst and things start rolling really fast once they do. And I know the exact reactions of people here that day. Complaining how can there be so much progress in one day, no realising what an outburst of all the repressed emotions could be like.

You don't have any concrete evidence that the next 2-3 PD's will show no progress with Dylan. So unless you do, please refrain from saying it.

You can like Sam as much as you want and I couldn't care less. What will happen with Dylan and Other characters is only known to L&P. So really, rather than dissing another character or the people who like that character, you should only focus on the characters you like and not mention others.
 

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I totally agree with what you are saying. But that was just before PD 12, Not every event was hardly hot before. But every event in PD12 is heating up. All upcoming events are starting to heat up. But two of Dylan's events in PD 12 have been excluded from progress. Except for Dylan's two events in PD 12, All other route events were very hot and made good progress.

But Dylan's path has so far failed to make much progress. Already, That looser Dylan is far behind in progress than minor characters or shota boys. Then my boy Sam's hot tub event will surely make all Dylan's fans sad and bored. Already Dylan's fans have lost some interest in Dylan's path. We already know that Dylan will have no progress until the next 2 to 3 PDs. But until then, do you think almost all Dylan fans won't lose interest in his routes? You may have forgotten that Sam still has an one event on PD 13.;)

In PD 13 we can all see hot scenes only at my boy Sam:love: event, Aiden and 2nd side job events. All the other Dylan events are just milking and blueballing events. And waste events.

There are no romantic and hot scenes in Dylan's path, After Sam's event, we'll have to wait until the next PD14 to see the hot (sights) scenes. OMG that means we all have to wait another year.:unsure::sneaky::(:cry:
Sam has a deadly handicap compared to Dylan in the "competition" with Sophia: he is not related to Sophia. This game makes sense and interest if it awakens in the players a taste for transgression, especially if it is extreme. What more fascinating and mysterious transgression than incest? And between a woman who is still young and attractive and a teenager who is still inexperienced like Dylan? Who is Sam in the end? A kid from the neighborhood. Any one. Always two kilometers behind the "rival" in this competition.
 
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