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I've long thought the issue is that the game development is like the television series Lost. You get invested, but then there are a lot of random subplots (a janitor! A subway encounter! A home-school tutor!) and so far nothing seems like it's going to go anywhere. Sophia is supposed to be MC, but everything happens to her.

The scene with the maid and the massage should have gone somewhere. The argument has long seemed that there's no pay off without build up, but there was in that instance.

I'll plan to check it out in 2030 and hope there's . . . something happening. I've seen some timeline thoughts, and . . . come on. This isn't Proust. It's barely an in-development game. It's mostly a digital graphic novel I'll be surprised to see in full.
I see this janitor and some others scenes like a warm up into the game, feel like it happens in order to arouse interest, curiosity and desire for Sophia, which till then don't had lived those kind of things in life, even though Sophia show interest at some point for whoever it is, also is pretty understandable she don't go further immediately and take 2, 3 or more time to go to the action, as in real life you can't get the lady or boy to the bed on the first meeting you wil probably need some more, less sometimes is more.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Maybe this Ranch event can be a family thing like the beach what make sence to me, and and they were talking about spend the night there so I assume we have a chance for Sophia or Ellie being involved in this lesbian thing, even one catch the other doing it, don't judge I am too creative to build theories :LOL:

So now that you've mentioned about Ellie's dance performance some of the must fetish thing came to mind, we all know that Ellie is a cheerleader so I ask you guys do you think we can see our 'lil Ellie dressed like this someday?
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Also, concerning the ranch event, when we were given the roadmaps for both Dylan and Ellie, neither have events on PD15. It can't be an overnight thing either, because being a Sunday, both Dylan and Ellie have school the next day, even if Sophia doesn't.
 
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Rather than answer specific posts, which would take too long, (even for me) but having read all of the foregoing, I will give the following comments. First, let me say that I don't believe an author needs to experience something in order to write a work of fiction which includes those particular subjects. [Method acting is great but great actors don't all follow the method]. If it was the case, Frankenstein, Dracula & King Kong, to name just three classic tales, would never have been set down in print, before becoming long-running film franchises. I do, however, believe that some knowledge &/or research can make fiction more involving. [Charles Dicken's characters & events were all grounded in reality]. L&P can, at times, write really well, IMO & the length of this thread is a testament to that effect. [He can also write badly but can't we all?]. It's obvious that he does conduct some research.

There are two key elements pertinent to AWAM, however, which could stand some re-examination, IMO. Both concern the projection of a veneer of realism. There's the issue of middle-age &/or it's rapid onset. I understand the Dev to be in his mid-30s, so he can't possibly have direct experience of what this is like & being a man, well you can guess the rest. My point is simply to wonder if any research has been done. Now, of course, every person, middle-aged, or not, is different but I still sometimes find it hard to accept that when Sophia acts, or reacts to various things in AWAM, that we are dealing with a mature mother & highly intelligent career woman of 38.

Secondly, there's the circumstances regarding what it takes for a person in a long-term relationship to have a one-night-stand, or conduct a long-term, extra-curricular love affair. We've had information that something wild for PD19 is planned, so what I'm about to say could be wrong. (I hope it is). Most individuals, unless they're specifically attempting to have "a dirty weekend," don't set out one day, thinking that they'll meet someone with whom they'll have a sexual relationship outside of their current living arrangements. They don't interact with someone, over a period of time, in a manner so sexually charged that they build up 'filthy points'. Even if something happens with a person they've known a long time, when it happens it will not be planned. People having an affair are usually acting outside of their normal patterns of behaviour. They are taking decisions about stuff they would not usually consider.

Sophia needs to act out of character, as would be the case in RL. Sex with someone other than Liam, by this token, could have already happened. Some affairs may well have a slow build up but I contend that they more usually resemble an onrushing express train. There's not so much time for the inner thought process, or lip-biting & there's no room at all for cock-blockers of any description. Emotions & thoughts involve guilt, lots of it, confusion, worry & guilt & wondering what happens next. Some of this could speed up AWAM overnight. Whether or not some fans would find it all a bit of an anti-climax, is surely not the issue. That's going to happen whatever occurs. Time to get a move on....?
 
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You're going on the wrong track. On Day 18 Sophia and Patricia talk about the farm again. From the looks of it. It is only going to be Patricia and Sophia going. L&P has only mentioned that almost the whole day is the farm event. Also if Ellie is there she will be a hindrance to Sophia Patricia progression as Sophia will be more reserved with her daughter around. Another indicator that Ellie won't be there is that the next Day, PD 16, is Full of Ellie events. L&P won't stuff Ellie on PD 15 then.

There is supposed to be another small event on that day. If it is going to be independent of Sophia then the only storylines that I see happening are Dylan Ellie at home or a very remote chance of it being Dylan Amber.
It doesn't matter whether event is with ellie or patricia All that matters is we have to wait another 1 and half year for event to start :cautious:
 

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Rather than answer specific posts, which would take too long, (even for me) but having read all of the foregoing, I will give the following comments. First, let me say that I don't believe an author needs to experience something in order to write a work of fiction which includes those particular subjects. [Method acting is great but great actors don't all follow the method]. If it was the case, Frankenstein, Dracula & King Kong, to name just three classic tales, would never have been set down in print, before becoming long-running film franchises. I do, however, believe that some knowledge &/or research can make fiction more involving. [Charles Dicken's characters & events were all grounded in reality]. L&P can, at times, write really well, IMO & the length of this thread is a testament to that effect. [He can also write badly but can't we all?]. It's obvious that he does conduct some research.

There are two key elements pertinent to AWAM, however, which could stand some re-examination, IMO. Both concern the projection of a veneer of realism. There's the issue of middle-age &/or it's rapid onset. I understand the Dev to be in his mid-30s, so he can't possibly have direct experience of what this is like & being a man, well you can guess the rest. My point is simply to wonder if any research has been done. Now, of course, every person, middle-aged, or not, is different but I still sometimes find it hard to accept that when Sophia acts, or reacts to various things in AWAM, that we are dealing with a mature mother & highly intelligent career woman of 38.

Secondly, there's the circumstances regarding what it takes for a person in a long-term relationship to have a one-night-stand, or conduct a long-term, extra-curricular love affair. We've had information that something wild for PD19 is planned, so what I'm about to say could be wrong. (I hope it is). Most individuals, unless they're specifically attempting to have "a dirty weekend," set out one day, thinking that they'll meet someone with whom they'll have a sexual relationship outside of their current living arrangements. They don't interact with someone, over a period of time, in a manner so sexually charged that they build up 'filthy points'. Even if something happens with a person they've known a long time, when it happens it will not be planned. People having an affair are usually acting outside of their normal patterns of behaviour. They are taking decisions about stuff they would not usually consider.

Sophia needs to act out of character, as would be the case in RL. Sex with someone other than Liam, by this token, could have already happened. Some affairs may well have a slow build up but I contend that they more usually resemble an onrushing express train. There's not so much time for the inner thought process, or lip-biting & there's no room at all for cock-blockers of any description. Emotions & thoughts involve guilt, lots of it, confusion, worry & guilt & wondering what happens next. Some of this could speed up AWAM overnight. Whether or not some fans would find it all a bit of an anti-climax, is surely not the issue. That's going to happen whatever occurs. Time to get a move on....?
The "wild" event is planned for PD16, not 19. It's the first sex scene with Sophia on the Filthy route that is PD19. So I'm guessing the "wild" event, although apparently something we wont expect, will be something leading up to sex, like a bj or hj.

Since one of the original financing goals was L&P dropping out of college to focus on the game, I always assumed he was around 20 when he started the game. Which would only put him at around 25 now.
 

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Secondly, there's the circumstances regarding what it takes for a person in a long-term relationship to have a one-night-stand, or conduct a long-term, extra-curricular love affair. We've had information that something wild for PD19 is planned, so what I'm about to say could be wrong. (I hope it is). Most individuals, unless they're specifically attempting to have "a dirty weekend," set out one day, thinking that they'll meet someone with whom they'll have a sexual relationship outside of their current living arrangements. They don't interact with someone, over a period of time, in a manner so sexually charged that they build up 'filthy points'. Even if something happens with a person they've known a long time, when it happens it will not be planned. People having an affair are usually acting outside of their normal patterns of behaviour. They are taking decisions about stuff they would not usually consider.

Sophia needs to act out of character, as would be the case in RL. Sex with someone other than Liam, by this token, could have already happened. Some affairs may well have a slow build up but I contend that they more usually resemble an onrushing express train. There's not so much time for the inner thought process, or lip-biting & there's no room at all for cock-blockers of any description. Emotions & thoughts involve guilt, lots of it, confusion, worry & guilt & wondering what happens next. Some of this could speed up AWAM overnight. Whether or not some fans would find it all a bit of an anti-climax, is surely not the issue. That's going to happen whatever occurs. Time to get a move on....?
I agree and that's how I always interpreted that dated quote (June 2018) by L&P about PD16 and the "something wild" that " ...no one will definitely expect at the moment"
Well, closest to that is of course still with the husband. I mean they are married and the others need an approach first. After all, Sophia is everything but a slut! Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband is planned the first time for playable day 16 and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment! I think it's one of the highlights in the story. Before, there will be a lot of other hot scenes and much more lucid approaches which are not "casual events"! As far as I can tell now, there won't even be such "casual events" anymore.
With all the caveats and grano salis about the age of the quote, the possible language barrier on how words are interpreted and so on, for me it always sounded like Sophia acting out of character, something in the spur of the moment, whether it is with someone of the "main cast" or some other minor or new character (please, god, no! ;) ).
Just **as an example** if the night club scene with Tyler ended in a different way like e.g. Leonox that would fit that description IMO. In that particular case the spur-of-the-moment thing would be made easier by the alcohol, I hope whatever it will be alcohol does not play a big role, but that's me.

That is to say that I agree with you that at least for the very first extramarital encounter something "unplanned" would be more realistic. On the other had, being the story so interconnected and intertwined, the other question is how (and if) this would reflect on other paths. Once the dam is broken, that should also affect the other relationships (provided they are on the same branch) if we seek realism, because the guilt and the conflict usually come later and one could expect that have some impact on the actions with other characters. Unless, once again, there will be that "reset" mechanism that often happens in between events.
 

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I agree and that's how I always interpreted that dated quote (June 2018) by L&P about PD16 and the "something wild" that " ...no one will definitely expect at the moment"

With all the caveats and grano salis about the age of the quote, the possible language barrier on how words are interpreted and so on, for me it always sounded like Sophia acting out of character, something in the spur of the moment, whether it is with someone of the "main cast" or some other minor or new character (please, god, no! ;) ).
Just **as an example** if the night club scene with Tyler ended in a different way like e.g. Leonox that would fit that description IMO. In that particular case the spur-of-the-moment thing would be made easier by the alcohol, I hope whatever it will be alcohol does not play a big role, but that's me.

That is to say that I agree with you that at least for the very first extramarital encounter something "unplanned" would be more realistic. On the other had, being the story so interconnected and intertwined, the other question is how (and if) this would reflect on other paths. Once the dam is broken, that should also affect the other relationships (provided they are on the same branch) if we seek realism, because the guilt and the conflict usually come later and one could expect that have some impact on the actions with other characters. Unless, once again, there will be that "reset" mechanism that often happens in between events.
But tell me how will you account for the two situations. One where she did go all the way in the spur of the moment and one where she didn't. As you said this should be like a dam breaking and affecting others routes. But can any writer truly account for this.
In one scenario she refused and hence the barriers stay. That means the scenes with other characters can't go far. In the other case, so should let be less reserved and accepting. This cannot be covered by mere dialogue changes. He will have to make an additional scene do differentiate something so big.
Plus the complications such as some players don't play certain routes. So which routes to add this effect to and which not to. Almost all storylines will need additional scenes or dialogues because of such a huge rift and you say it will only he realistic if she loosens up.
You will have to remember that on the route that she refuses L&P will still have to move the other routes logically. So we might end with situation such as

Case 1 ( she had sex that night ) - Sam gets blowjob in this scenario and Sophia allows Ellie to stimulate her.
Case 2 ( she didn't give in ) - Sam only gets a handjob and Ellie is not allowed to stimulate her.

Next scene for these routes. Will cause the problem.
Now L&P has to account for the scene where Sam only got a handjob and logically move to Sam getting a blowjob. But that is something already seen in the other route. He will be accused of making the same kind of content again and again.

We have to remember that this is not actual life. Certain limitations cannot be overcome. We all are playing based on our choices. If this were a kinetic novel it was possible to do whatever he wishes with the story. Right now he has to take all permutations and combinations into consideration and move the story in a way, so that he doesn't have to create a similar scene again or make two renders for the same thing. Infact in order to avoid that he moved Emma to the next class. So he doesn't have to make Emma and Cool Emma.
 

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this game has a youtube channel who covert newso_O
All their info comes from the threads. I'd say we regulars have more info than them.

Edit - what the heck is written there. What is v0.151. Who made that. This is wrong info. Atleast when I did the saves they got exported without issues from v0.150 directly to v0.161. There is no need to re-download part 1 again and again
 
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But tell me how will you account for the two situations. One where she did go all the way in the spur of the moment and one where she didn't. As you said this should be like a dam breaking and affecting others routes. But can any writer truly account for this.
In one scenario she refused and hence the barriers stay. That means the scenes with other characters can't go far. In the other case, so should let be less reserved and accepting. This cannot be covered by mere dialogue changes. He will have to make an additional scene do differentiate something so big.
Plus the complications such as some players don't play certain routes. So which routes to add this effect to and which not to. Almost all storylines will need additional scenes or dialogues because of such a huge rift and you say it will only he realistic if she loosens up.
You will have to remember that on the route that she refuses L&P will still have to move the other routes logically. So we might end with situation such as

Case 1 ( she had sex that night ) - Sam gets blowjob in this scenario and Sophia allows Ellie to stimulate her.
Case 2 ( she didn't give in ) - Sam only gets a handjob and Ellie is not allowed to stimulate her.

Next scene for these routes. Will cause the problem.
Now L&P has to account for the scene where Sam only got a handjob and logically move to Sam getting a blowjob. But that is something already seen in the other route. He will be accused of making the same kind of content again and again.

We have to remember that this is not actual life. Certain limitations cannot be overcome. We all are playing based on our choices. If this were a kinetic novel it was possible to do whatever he wishes with the story. Right now he has to take all permutations and combinations into consideration and move the story in a way, so that he doesn't have to create a similar scene again or make two renders for the same thing. Infact in order to avoid that he moved Emma to the next class. So he doesn't have to make Emma and Cool Emma.
As I've said before, in my mind the only way I see Sophia having heterosexual sex is if she and Liam agree to their friends offer of wife swapping or Liam has an affair and Sophia finds out about it.
Even a handjob for Sam would be pushing her boundaries (without alchohol), especially as that could have been easily accomplished with less problems, with Dylan in the beach hut.
Personally, I think the next step for Sophia is with a woman.
Before, I thought in the shower with Ellie (and maybe Jules), but now maybe at the ranch?!

As an aside, I'm not going to knock L&P. He's given a lot of people something they want and like and he's not Disney/Pixar.
If it takes time, so be it.
The only comment I have is I'd rather wait 6 or more months and get several days (a weeks?!) gameplay rather than one scene (or a couple of renders depending on the route) a month.
 
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