VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[DurumMurud]

What choices does Dylan make that affect the game? So far I've only seen minor stuff to do with Marie, like deciding whether or not to steal money from Sophia.

From the perspective of choosing options, then yes, Dylan's options are not the most impactful. BUT, when Sophia is going through Dylan's path, her frame and how she saw things 8 days ago suddenly suffers a windows blue screen, she goes into total lobotomy, and she just lives in Dylan's fantasy.

Does a 40 yo woman wants to go to a club with a 16yo guy? NO, its embarrasing.
Does a 40 yo woman wants to be gropped and kissed in public by a 16yo guy? no, its embarrasing.
Does a 40 yo woman feels safe in a club with a 16yo guy defending her? no, its threatening and dangerous.
Etc...

Sophia doesn't want to take any of those options, you are just forced to live in Dylan's fantasy. If you swap things 180 degrees and ask before those events: "ey Sophia, what do YOU want at this point of the novel?" absolutely NONE of those things would be the reply, those are Dylan's replies. In AWAM S2 you do NOT live in Sophia's world, you are living in Dylan's world. We are mostly "living" in Dylan's fantasy from Sophia's perspective, not Sophia's "life / fantasy", and that makes Dylan the real protagonist.

The novel sometimes breathes when it moves away from Dylan', but the stupidification of Sophia is also gradually happening in the other paths. L&P is confusing corruption with submission and lack of self awareness. Sophia is in a huge lack of agency, of frame, of internal compass to feel like we are leaving her story. She is a passenger, not the captain. She is not the protagonist anymore, she is the main perspective, she is just the camera and the filler text, but she doesnt feel alive anymore.

Sophia S2 has better face (until recent changes), better ass, better tits (even if both look fake), better ambience lights and gloom, but she lost her soul, her opinion, her frame, her personality, etc...

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

What choices does Dylan make that affect the game? So far I've only seen minor stuff to do with Marie, like deciding whether or not to steal money from Sophia.

It affects his path in the game and his relations with other characters.

 

[jamdan]

I dont think so, they serve a purpose.

Janitor will be a convenient helper at some point of the story and will be "shown some gratitude", that is the story purpose, the sexual purpose is the real BBC of the game. Others BBC should be lesser compared to him.

Aiden is the submisive side, gangbang and a variant of posh girl fucks hobo/thug as hinted from Patricia's conversation at the beginning.

Bennett is probably the bondage dude with a red room, that is the "special cliché purpose" he serves as. He is also a huge cock guy, so probably he is the BWC of the game. The way he was presented was similar to Mr Parker from Jessica Oneil, just a casual touch of her feet through the trousers fabric while he was non erected and in bad position was enough for her to realise his cock was really big, so he is supposed to be the Mr Parker huge white cock dude.

They server purposes. BBC, ganbang, thug/posh contrast, bondage and red room. They will pop at the end of the novel to check some boxes once she has her legs wide open. Expect those for the year 2047 aprox.

I think that sort of proves the other posters point. They have a purpose... to check off a box on the fetish list. They have no purpose beyond that. I think LP basically admitted this in one of the emails that was posted here, in regards to the janitor (BBC) and nursing side-job (old men corruption). The same can be said about the Meyers kids, even though for obvious reasons he won't admit that one publicly.

Some games do that type of thing, a character/route for every fetish. But all of those are unabashed porn games, they don't attempt to be or even pretend to be "realistic". A thing that LP insists AWAM is.

All of these characters (a fetish for everything) and LP insisting on more or less building a world wide web of routes and relationships is the main reason this game is basically doomed.

For example on the party scene with Dylan/Ellie and their friends, LP felt the need to create new friends instead of using already existing ones. Things like that just bloat the game to extreme levels.

One of the most common things people talk about in this and the OT thread is the fact you can cut the large majority of the characters and the game will be better for it.

Unfortunately, LP doesn't see it that way. He thinks everything must go step by step, there must be a route/choice for every possibility etc.

 

[Alley_Cat]

From the perspective of choosing options, then yes, Dylan's options are not the most impactful. BUT, when Sophia is going through Dylan's path, her frame and how she saw things 8 days ago suddenly suffers a windows blue screen, she goes into total lobotomy, and she just lives in Dylan's fantasy.

Does a 40 yo woman wants to go to a club with a 16yo guy? NO, its embarrasing.
Does a 40 yo woman wants to be gropped and kissed in public by a 16yo guy? no, its embarrasing.
Does a 40 yo woman feels safe in a club with a 16yo guy defending her? no, its threatening and dangerous.
Etc...

Sophia doesn't want to take any of those options, you are just forced to live in Dylan's fantasy. If you swap things 180 degrees and ask before those events: "ey Sophia, what do YOU want at this point of the novel?" absolutely NONE of those things would be the reply, those are Dylan's replies. In AWAM S2 you do NOT live in Sophia's world, you are living in Dylan's world. We are mostly "living" in Dylan's fantasy from Sophia's perspective, not Sophia's "life / fantasy", and that makes Dylan the real protagonist.

The novel sometimes breathes when it moves away from Dylan', but the stupidification of Sophia is also gradually happening in the other paths. L&P is confusing corruption with submission and lack of self awareness. Sophia is in a huge lack of agency, of frame, of internal compass to feel like we are leaving her story. She is a passenger, not the captain. She is not the protagonist anymore, she is the main perspective, she is just the camera and the filler text, but she doesnt feel alive anymore.

Sophia S2 has better face (until recent changes), better ass, better tits (even if both look fake), better ambience lights and gloom, but she lost her soul, her opinion, her frame, her personality, etc...

That more or less sums up why I don't play the Dylan route. Except I go further, in that it makes no sense for them to take the sports car in the Prologue for Dylan to sit on Sophia's lap. Only reason I can see to choose the sports car option is that as a player, you've already decided to play the Dylan route.

I'm just waiting to see if L&P fixes the last Ellie event so that those who want the straight content can play it, and those that want the lesbian can play that branch. At the moment you can't separate the two.

And I agree about her stupefaction on other paths. I was hoping in the event with Logan and Tyler that Sophia would have more agency, especially since she doesn't like either of them right from the start. None of the decisions required to continue the event make sense for Sophia.

Although I believe Dylan is 17, and Ellie 18.

It affects his path in the game and not others.

That Dylan doesn't make any decisions that affect the other routes is entirely my point.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Please use a translation program. English is the preferred language.
Nobody knows how far things will go with the three little apostles. We can only guess. Sophia will be dressed in hot lingerie. Whether she jerks the boys off while they all three suck Sophia's nipples together or finger her... remains to be seen. I still think a bj is out of the question.

SHTA?? We'll be there

 

[ashitanojoe]

hallo, der Sexualkundeunterricht findet wieder statt, würde gerne wissen wie es weitergeht

 

[DylansMoM_001]

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[peas]

Defthink a handjob or tit job is the most you can hope for. I am 65 and doubt I will live long enough to see Sophia cheating on her husband with full sex with a man.

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

That Dylan doesn't make any decisions that affect the other routes is entirely my point.

Okay, but your original question was whether Dylan can be looked as MC. Well, he is the only character apart from Sophia who gets to make choices(Liam got a choice once but it hardly counts)and you can play the game from his POV from time to time, so can he be called another MC or not? LP considers him as MC as far as I know. And he may not affect others, but his choices in the game corrupt Sophia into being more bold and more open with taboo feelings. Also he has influence over Ellie whether to forgive Logan or not. And if we consider the whole cuck thing then he is the main character whose choices will affect how Sophia interact with others. TBH, LP should have never given him choices in the game or introduced gameplay through his pov. It started with a female protagonist and should have followed the same path.

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

Defthink a handjob or tit job is the most you can hope for. I am 65 and doubt I will live long enough to see Sophia cheating on her husband with full sex with a man.

Hold on for your dear life just 35 more years, see Sophia get banged, jerk off to her and go out in style at 100 .

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Hold on for your dear life just 35 more years, see Sophia get banged, jerk off to her and go out in style at 100 .

His wife will be shocked when she finds his lifeless body in the basement, holding his dick and cum splattered all over the screen showing "to be continued"

 

[new_user!]

One of the most common things people talk about in this and the OT thread is the fact you can cut the large majority of the characters and the game will be better for it.

Unfortunately, LP doesn't see it that way. He thinks everything must go step by step, there must be a route/choice for every possibility etc.

You guys are just naive - LP knows and understands everything. He does NOT WANT to develop the main topic and therefore diverts attention to nonsense. All the pointless updates, new paths and actors are just an excuse not to develop the main theme and tease, tease, tease... LP will milk forever!

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

You guys are just naive - LP knows and understands everything. He does NOT WANT to develop the main topic and therefore diverts attention to nonsense. All the pointless updates, new paths and actors are just an excuse not to develop the main theme and tease, tease, tease... LP will milk forever!

Exactly. He can withhold development of main plot for quite some time with so many branches he has opened. There will be lots and lots of lesbian stuff so that he can claim that there are sexual scenes. Even if Sophia gives BJ to Dylan he can easily waste 3-4 updates on it, her giving bj reluctantly, then her regretting for a whole update, then accepting the situation and feelings and then somewhere down the line she will give BJ's freely but then too it will not lead to sex, there will be again lesbian scenes, then Dylan eating Sophia pussy, her regretting the situation and whole thing repeats itself. It will go on and on and on...forever.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

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Here is free anatomy lesson, because it drives me mad when I constantly see it here and in the fanart tread:





Spot the difference.

 

[DDDIsReal]

So the new update will have lesbian content with Vicky?

 

[DylansMoM_001]

So the new update will have lesbian content with Vicky?

Not really

 

[ItsNotUs]

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Here is free anatomy lesson, because it drives me mad when I constantly see it here and in the fanart tread:

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Spot the difference.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

No % today ?

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

So the new update will have lesbian content with Vicky?

It can go either of 3 ways,

1. After all the touching and flirting, Sophia gets aroused, Vicky senses it and initiate making out with Sophia, DeShawn joins later but Sophia is hesitant involving him, and she opts out of any action and watches them having sex from far(recall of the spa event.)

2. Sophia gets aroused, Vicky senses it and encourages her to make out with DeShawn, Sophia complies but her conscience doesn't allow her, Vicky instead offers some lesbian action, DeShawn watches them from far while jerking off to them. Sophia sees it and gets more corrupted, and voyeuristic. Her attraction to DeShawn increases.

3.Sophia is aroused from all the "workout". Vicky senses it, and plots with DeShawn for involving her. They start making out, things escalate, they go all the way, while Sophia watches them. Vicky invites Sophia to join in, Sophia is too aroused to decline but she doesn't want any action with DeShawn, so she goes down on Vicky instead. DeShawn plays with her tits and ass occasionally in between the action, she is reluctant but lets it happen. DeShawn fucks Vicky while Vicky eats Sophia and kiss her. Sophia gives a HJ to DeShawn reluctantly at Vicky's insistence. DeShawn finishes off on their tits or face, any they kiss with cum in their mouth.

I don't see anything other than this happening, so long story short, yes there will be lesbian content with Vicky, one way or another.

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

No % today ?

Now that the development for this update is near completion but it is only start of the month so he is gonna take his sweet time with the % just so that he doesn't have to deliver the update before the month ends.