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L&P is giving what most of his patrons want and if they are happy to keep on paying him to do so whats the problem? The patrons get what they want and L&P is getting paid for the product that he provides.
i am very much into built up, i like porn with plot, but the problem is the game has been building up for a whooping 7 years!! it's time to get to the point and move on now in 2024
 

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i am very much into built up, i like porn with plot, but the problem is the game has been building up for a whooping 7 years!! it's time to get to the point and move on now in 2024
I agree with you and I have said before that I thought L&P was too ambitious and too nieve to think that he could pull off a project of this size by himself but he went a head with it anyway.
Now, finally I think it is starting to sink in that he is in trouble and his band aid fixes are not working.
 
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allow me to express my thoughs, and IMO, so please don't get mad with me for just what is just some thoughts...

if the intent, or will, of l&p wotld be to break a prejudice of this era, because incest is just a prejudice and in the matriarcal society of many old people in the past was not a prejudice at all... well, in that case i'll restart to pay with patreon l&p for what could be an opera of art and a very good message too, but... he puts the incests acts like "corruption", he thinks like "corruption" the process of "mental degradation" of the main charater and the others and, IMO and i repeat, IMO, i think he is just selling that prejudice to people that has that prejudice too but love to jerk before a screen with the idea of committing something wrong so thay just mastrubate in front of a screen thinking to do the same thing they see on the screen...
please correct me if i'm wrong, but ther intent of l&p is to exploit a prejudice to make money with it selling tit to people who want it, not to break a prejudice with a fine and superb work of art...
well, i found it wery disappointing, very "cheap" and, well... bad... IMO! and i repeat it: IMO! so try now not to insult or get mad just for the fact you think otherwise... cheers!

ps: you want to get rich? then do not sell art at all! simply give the pigs the "food" they want and ask for. bye bye...lol
First "complaint" that comes to my mind, "damn, your thoughts need better formatting."
 

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0.00 -> 0.205 in 7 years. 0.205 -> 1.00 theoretically if it takes 7 years per .2 progression. The game will finish in the year 2052.
Maybe you are a bit jealous on LP? Owing a 65 foot yacht, owning a big mansion, owning lots of sport scars? Just being clever to make this game and milking it to the bottom? I wish I could do that and surviving a crash as what happened on Patreon......
 
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L&P is giving what most of his patrons want and if they are happy to keep on paying him to do so, whats the problem? The patrons get what they want and L&P is getting paid for the product that he provides.
Except that it's not what most of his patrons want. The prepubescent kiddies only got about 200 votes last poll. Out of 1500 odd patrons.
 
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Except that it's not what most of his patrons want. The prepubescent kiddies only got about 200 votes last poll. Out of 1500 odd patrons.
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Yes... that is true as any statement about the game there is...

However I think L&P has a problem that is structural and tactical with the game. I'm not saying L&P is "milking" the game and drawing it out, but what I saying is if L&P starts closing the circles of the various relationships, L&P can't figure out "the what next" moments and plots.

Take two examples:

Even though it will be another year to see 'Tyler' again and L&P closes the circle and Sophia cheats {personally that is two years down the road based on how L&P works}, I don't think L&P knows where to take the story after that. And yet it is so easy to turn the story from sex, cheating, and excitement, to one of inner struggle and regret with the physical and emotional desire for the relationship to continue despite all complications... if anything it sets up 2 or more updates of sex, bonding, and complications and STILL LEAVES OPEN an ending way down the road allowing the other paths to unfold.

What? We get to suffer two, three more updates before the story gets back to Dylan? Never mind. Anyhow if in the next Dylan update L&P closes the circle (which how the storyline is currently written would be a disaster), there still leaves a guilty and shocked Sophia to deal and overcome the consequences as the story unfolds of Dylan attempting to do it again and a Sophia struggling with herself of letting it happen again and getting more and more corrupted till she totally surrenders to it. That is like four updates and pushes out the game three years before the endings of the other paths have their endings.

Now some of the paths can't be interconnected just because of how ill thought out some are, so it's a game of alternative universes. But some can be linked. It wouldn't make sense to link Tyler/Dyaln together of them to splitting time with Sophia. Now that L&P plans to push Sam off on Ellie, that would have made a link of the Sam/Dylan path possible.

Thing is, L&P hasn't totally screwed up the game yet but as it is its heading for a trainwreck. So L&P really should listen to the players and supporters. I know there are Sam fans out there... I doubt they are going to like it if L&P does do as he has said and move Sam off Sophia and onto Ellie. Any other major turning points with various other fan favorites is going to cost L&P.

While some are eager for the tutoring release and I wager a few for the old folks, I'll revisit the game in about a year when it moves past that nonsense
 

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Yes... that is true as any statement about the game there is...

However I think L&P has a problem that is structural and tactical with the game. I'm not saying L&P is "milking" the game and drawing it out, but what I saying is if L&P starts closing the circles of the various relationships, L&P can't figure out "the what next" moments and plots.

Take two examples:

Even though it will be another year to see 'Tyler' again and L&P closes the circle and Sophia cheats {personally that is two years down the road based on how L&P works}, I don't think L&P knows where to take the story after that. And yet it is so easy to turn the story from sex, cheating, and excitement, to one of inner struggle and regret with the physical and emotional desire for the relationship to continue despite all complications... if anything it sets up 2 or more updates of sex, bonding, and complications and STILL LEAVES OPEN an ending way down the road allowing the other paths to unfold.

What? We get to suffer two, three more updates before the story gets back to Dylan? Never mind. Anyhow if in the next Dylan update L&P closes the circle (which how the storyline is currently written would be a disaster), there still leaves a guilty and shocked Sophia to deal and overcome the consequences as the story unfolds of Dylan attempting to do it again and a Sophia struggling with herself of letting it happen again and getting more and more corrupted till she totally surrenders to it. That is like four updates and pushes out the game three years before the endings of the other paths have their endings.

Now some of the paths can't be interconnected just because of how ill thought out some are, so it's a game of alternative universes. But some can be linked. It wouldn't make sense to link Tyler/Dyaln together of them to splitting time with Sophia. Now that L&P plans to push Sam off on Ellie, that would have made a link of the Sam/Dylan path possible.

Thing is, L&P hasn't totally screwed up the game yet but as it is its heading for a trainwreck. So L&P really should listen to the players and supporters. I know there are Sam fans out there... I doubt they are going to like it if L&P does do as he has said and move Sam off Sophia and onto Ellie. Any other major turning points with various other fan favorites is going to cost L&P.

While some are eager for the tutoring release and I wager a few for the old folks, I'll revisit the game in about a year when it moves past that nonsense
I would make it atleast 2 years
 

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I think this novel is much closer to finishing than people realize.

I'm convinced this novel ends with Sophia crossing that line with Dylan and/or Ellie once, and then it ends.

L&P has stated in the past 30 in-game days total? if I recall correctly

He has also mentioned the amount of time it taking to get through each day, wouldn't surprise me if he changes his mind about how many in-game days there are. After all, if he cutting some things out, then the total amount of in-game days is cut down to.

I might be wrong about what L&P does but this novel is much closer to a "potential" ending than y'all seem to realize.
 

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I think this novel is much closer to finishing than people realize.

I'm convinced this novel ends with Sophia crossing that line with Dylan and/or Ellie once, and then it ends.

L&P has stated in the past 30 in-game days total? if I recall correctly

He has also mentioned the amount of time it taking to get through each day, wouldn't surprise me if he changes his mind about how many in-game days there are. After all, if he cutting some things out, then the total amount of in-game days is cut down to.

I might be wrong about what L&P does but this novel is much closer to a "potential" ending than y'all seem to realize.
I agree with you as we have had sudden events appearing like Ellies prom night and the parents visit was set for the last quarter of the game and Liam is set to become CEO very soon.
So yes he has fast tracked some events and and maybe dropped or DLC other events like Morello,subway thugs.
The real telling point will be when Sophia takes a break from the side jobs or when the subway thugs reappear again,depending on players choice.
 
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