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nexer

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His Patreon. Of course, that's a statement that I can't trust either. He promised to be faster, but he has become much slower than when he started.
L&P respected his promises. But, working alone he can's go faster. Doesn't cheat/milk/lie. Right now he's 100% dedicated to the game, maybe ;)
But, to hire someone else he needs more money to pay him, if is it possible. At least 1000$ more.

One way to do this would be: someone creates the scene, clothes, props ... and L&P puts the finishing touches on it. But all this means common workspace.
 

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With the current development speed the game would take ages to be complete. From this one could conclude that the aim must be to increase the speed of development (as in number of renders per time). However, Another point of view could be that L&P simply added too many side stories. If he would reduce them, he could tell the essential story in his usual high quality without getting entangled in trivialities. Why for example have two (or even more) Blackmail stories in the game, where one would have most likely been enough.

It's like a book being made into a movie. It is simply not possible to capture all the dialogues, and all the thoughts that were written in the book on film. The story must be adapted to the medium. This is L&P's single biggest mistake, that it will never take this sufficiently into account.

The danger is great that at some point there will simply be no more updates and development will be discontinued. Then none of the stories are really told through.
Yeah and some character are there just to side appe
L&P respected his promises. But, working alone he can's go faster. Doesn't cheat/milk/lie. Right now he's 100% dedicated to the game, maybe ;)
But, to hire someone else he needs more money to pay him, if is it possible. At least 1000$ more.

One way to do this would be: someone creates the scene, clothes, props ... and L&P puts the finishing touches on it. But all this means common workspace.
L&P respected his promises. But, working alone he can's go faster. Doesn't cheat/milk/lie. Right now he's 100% dedicated to the game, maybe ;)
But, to hire someone else he needs more money to pay him, if is it possible. At least 1000$ more.

One way to do this would be: someone creates the scene, clothes, props ... and L&P puts the finishing touches on it. But all this means common workspace.
His goal is completed of hiring if he is not hiring anyone then it's a lie about it's goal bre do u realy think that of he continue stretching this game will benefit him eventually there are others dev who r improvong and dev new games so he should think about it for his future games in a long run
 

nexer

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His goal is completed of hiring if he is not hiring anyone then it's a lie about it's goal bre do u realy think that of he continue stretching this game will benefit him eventually there are others dev who r improvong and dev new games so he should think about it for his future games in a long run
Midnight Paradise, updates. Sandbox
Mar 30 - 0.7
Apr 29 - 0.8
Jun 03 - 0.9

Looks like they've finally turned things around; I might even start donating again.
Midnight Paradisev0.9, 190 new renders and some animations.

Only Ellie-Julia event has twice as many renders as last update Midnight Paradise.
One more thing. Midnight Paradise has 90% renders with 2-3 characters.
 

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His Patreon. Of course, that's a statement that I can't trust either. He promised to be faster, but he has become much slower than when he started.
most VN updates have become much slower, this dev is no different, used to be devs aim for once a month a long time ago, then it became 2 months, then 3 months. Really shouldn't blame 1 dev for doing what every dev is pretty much doing.

although with this VN, people are just never happy and I gave up on changing peoples perceptions a long time ago.

Personally I rather have quality than quick rubbish, I don't mind waiting 6 months for an update when it comes to AWAM.
 

armion82

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There is a walkthrough for this game. How are people still having issues with points?
Probably they have problem reading?
Midnight Paradise, updates. Sandbox

Midnight Paradisev0.9, 190 new renders and some animations.

Only Ellie-Julia event has twice as many renders as last update Midnight Paradise.
One more thing. Midnight Paradise has 90% renders with 2-3 characters.
You can't compare sandbox and VN games.At least not in a fair way.

I didn't. ;) I like MP, just compare the renders of updates.
Well I was talking more about the number of renders than the games.You simply can't compare the number of renders of any sandbox game to a VN one.
VN always will win,because the sandbox game use same render several times,in BB case more than 100 times:)
Also MP 0.9 is not 190 renders.You forget the extra and elite renders-with them is around 235.Pretty decent number for 1 month.Let's not forget we have animations too.
 
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heskey232

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most VN updates have become much slower, this dev is no different, used to be devs aim for once a month a long time ago, then it became 2 months, then 3 months. Really shouldn't blame 1 dev for doing what every dev is pretty much doing.

although with this VN, people are just never happy and I gave up on changing peoples perceptions a long time ago.

Personally I rather have quality than quick rubbish, I don't mind waiting 6 months for an update when it comes to AWAM.
I mean have u played this game at all? There’s times where updates take 5 months and there’s 10-15 mins of content without pressing the skip button just like the last update
 

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L&P respected his promises. But, working alone he can's go faster. Doesn't cheat/milk/lie. Right now he's 100% dedicated to the game, maybe ;)
But, to hire someone else he needs more money to pay him, if is it possible. At least 1000$ more.

One way to do this would be: someone creates the scene, clothes, props ... and L&P puts the finishing touches on it. But all this means common workspace.
He definitely milks the game imho, even if he is dedicated. I'm not saying Sophia shold already be some slut who fucks everyone but this game's progress is just the extreme opposite with barely any progress after almost 3 years
 

Trash+Sombra

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He definitely milks the game imho, even if he is dedicated. I'm not saying Sophia shold already be some slut who fucks everyone but this game's progress is just the extreme opposite with barely any progress after almost 3 years
yea she should when did this game frsit start any way the main promeblm with this game is it has way to many chacreters and routes that you can go that don't even go any where
 

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I mean have u played this game at all? There’s times where updates take 5 months and there’s 10-15 mins of content without pressing the skip button just like the last update
No, I haven't played the game or been monitoring it for over a year, I just randomly posted in here for no reason. (sarcasm)
 

nexer

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Well I was talking more about the number of renders than the games.You simply can't compare the number of renders of any sandbox game to a VN one.
VN always will win,because the sandbox game use same render several times,in BB case more than 100 times:)
Also MP 0.9 is not 190 renders.You forget the extra and elite renders-with them is around 235.Pretty decent number for 1 month.Let's not forget we have animations too.
Yeap. I counted 21+21+Ep9+animation. But if L&P did 500 renders we are even.
 

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yea she should when did this game frsit start any way the main promeblm with this game is it has way to many chacreters and routes that you can go that don't even go any where

True, I think the dev should have kept the focus on the family overall. Also there are just too many "filler" scenes that go nowhere. I mean the visuals are great and all but they are being wasted with boring scenes
 

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Is that true about build up mother&son Sophia&dylan are slow Than build up mother &Daughter and mother& neighbor son I’m talking about there bond between them maybe having sex between them
 

nexer

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Is that true about build up mother&son Sophia&dylan are slow Than build up mother &Daughter and mother& neighbor son I’m talking about there bond between them maybe having sex between them
L&P is trying to get as many fetishes in as possible. The other option was this: Liam and Sophia like BDSM, swing, exhibitionism, voyeurism........ all type, from the beginning. A modern family, progresist wave.
 
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armion82

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Yeap. I counted 21+21+Ep9+animation. But if L&P did 500 renders we are even.
You know what I am afraid.
We know that Julia scene is more than 400 renders,right?And that is what? 25-30% of the update?
How the hell Liam will take 5% for a simple scene.That will be what:70-80 renders?
What about Dylan and self-defense course with 10%?150 renders?Don't tell me we will have 100 renders with different poses.
 

nexer

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You know what I am afraid.
We know that Julia scene is more than 400 renders,right?And that is what? 25-30% of the update?
How the hell Liam will take 5% for a simple scene.That will be what:70-80 renders?
What about Dylan and self-defense course with 10%?150 renders?Don't tell me we will have 100 renders with different poses.
Haha. I am a green belt, ShotoKai, not Shotokan. Long time ago.:D:cool: I would like to see some poses.....
I don't know, next update could have 1000 renders. Yoga class, Alyssa this can't be a small one.
 

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You know what I am afraid.
We know that Julia scene is more than 400 renders,right?And that is what? 25-30% of the update?
How the hell Liam will take 5% for a simple scene.That will be what:70-80 renders?
What about Dylan and self-defense course with 10%?150 renders?Don't tell me we will have 100 renders with different poses.
No, we don't know that, you're making things up again. It's only 380.
 
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