Hlextor

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The hot scenes are good, but we need some sexier action even if we are still less than halfway through the playable days.
I feel real confident for some sexier action in the following update. The Ellie/Julia and the Yoga event will be more than only looking surreptitiously to each other. My assumption is, we have in both events similar scenes like in Sophia/Ellie shower event. Maybe also with Alyssa.
With regard to „Lesbian” Sophia can get a move on.;)
 

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As some people have already said, he really needs an editor to cut some of the content. Even with the « mains characters » . If you play the Sam route, what was the point of his scene in the last update ? What was there that advanced their relationship ? Nothing. We learn that he likes to peep on Sophia. Nothing new. That she like to tease him and that she doesn’t mind . Nothing new. That he’s obsessed about her. Nothing new. That he dreams about her ? We already know that he has some problems sleeping but know we know that he’s subconsciously obsessed about her. That’s not really much. On the sexual side, he massage her back, shoulders and arms . She’s in a bikini and her nipples get hard. Nothing new and I would say even a regression. All this event could have been condensed. Like this : Sam call Sophia (he has her number), he talk about his upcoming concert, and invite her and would gladly drive her now that he has his license and a car. It was not the biggest of event, but even there he can win some time.
 
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If he keeps expanding the history branches and the number of renders per event (Records), every remaining day will take from 5 to 6 months at the actual speed. So about 17 pending days, it's 8.5 years, basic math...

Render and programming could be outsourced, which could speed up, but creative "art" part, as design and writing history are complex to delegate.
1 day every 5-6 months would be actually "decent". Let me remind you, you're waiting rn for half a day update, so ~double your number.

I'm not biased, i already invested 544,50€ in L&P work [...]
Dude, let's start with the obvious - you're fookin crazy ;) and partially responsible just like any other patron - well, maybe a little more.
 

Sorrow85

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If this high goal is really achieved someday
What is this high goal?
1k patreons?

I'm ok with 720 render but I don't like lying especially from the dev.
I don't know then if L&P is a young guy(Young ppl bluster) but he should say if he can’t keep his promise, probably everyone would understand it with good reason(Games size, render time etc)

Has L&P ever commented on these?

And no, I don’t want to start World War III but I just want to know the truth.
 

AlienEDM

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Guys help me i cant view Ellie and Sophia bathroom scene because of couple of points! Maybe someone has v0.90 full save with all max stats?
Here is my save game which you can see the full scene. Just extract it on the save game folder. You will find it on the tier of quick save. Enjoy.
screenshot0001.png
 
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Dan5k74

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So, I was listening to a song and the lyrics reminds me of Sophia and this game:

D'you get scared to feel so much?
To let somebody touch you?
So hot, so cold, so far so out of control
Hard to come by, and harder to hold

Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I don't know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
One thing I know
I want more
I want more

I think about Sophia every time I listen to this song:

After all, all that she wants is another baby... literally.
 
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Sorrow85

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Yes, he did. As far as I remember, he said that it would take more rendering time and that the size of the game is huge already, so he prefers not to do it. I believe that someone shared a response from patreon.
Thank you.
I thinking that was the reason.

As you know, I have not followed this thread for three years but just a few months.
 
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ashitanojoe

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What is this high goal?
1k patreons?

I'm ok with 720 render but I don't like lying especially from the dev.
I don't know then if L&P is a young guy(Young ppl bluster) but he should say if he can’t keep his promise, probably everyone would understand it with good reason(Games size, render time etc)

Has L&P ever commented on these?

And no, I don’t want to start World War III but I just want to know the truth.
Yes, he did. As far as I remember, he said that it would take more rendering time and that the size of the game is huge already, so he prefers not to do it. I believe that someone shared a response from patreon.

If I'm honest the increment in game size sounds like an excuse. This other dev, recreation, produces 1080p renders and his game Bad Memories is not that heavy.
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That 1080p image only weights 331kb. It's a matter of compress the images properly. But I'm not interested in 1080p, the rendering time would increase significantly, so, even slower updating time.
 
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Yes, he did. As far as I remember, he said that it would take more rendering time and that the size of the game is huge already, so he prefers not to do it. I believe that someone shared a response from patreon.

If I'm honest the increment in game size sounds like an excuse. This other dev, recreation, produces 1080p renders and his game is not that heavy.
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That 1080p image only weights 331kb. It's a matter of compress the images properly. But I'm not interested in 1080p, the rendering time would increase significantly, so, even lower updates.
which game is this?
 

Sorrow85

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which game is this?
Bad Memories:
https://f95zone.to/threads/bad-memories-v0-5-2-recreation.28008/
I recommend try it.

That 1080p image only weights 331kb. It's a matter of compress the images properly. But I'm not interested in 1080p, the rendering time would increase significantly, so, even lower updates.
But really, I think L&P would have already gotten two or more RTX 2080ti making renders with patreon’s money.
At least I know the reason, that's enough for me.
 
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ashitanojoe

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But really, I think L&P would have already gotten two or more RTX 2080ti making renders with patreon’s money.
At least I know the reason, that's enough for me.
I think that he emphasized more in the game size, as I remember he did some projections to the future size of the game and he concluded that it would be very huge. I hope I'm not mixing the answer of another dev.

About the rendering time he responded that he doesn't do automatic renders, for example, while he is sleeping. So, I don't know if he has more PC's rendering at the same time when he uses another one.

I don't render the scenes automatically. Just letting it run while sleeping isn't! Before rendering I'm adjusting every single scene! Alone the lighting setting is different with every point of view especially with the style I'm using with my next update!
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-095-lust-passion.5944/post-3791824
 

Sorrow85

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I think that he emphasized more in the game size, as I remember he did some projections to the future size of the game and he concluded that it would be very huge.
AWAM is now 2.65gb(?) and BAIDK is 8GB
Of course, in the BAIDK game there will be problems in the future with Mega and other load services if DPC to continue this way.
Edit: Dammit, DPC offer too that only one episode upgrade thing too. I Forget that.

But why couldn’t L&P offer upgrades to the previous version:
Like you own 0.095 already and DL only 0.100 stuff.
 

Alley_Cat

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Just out of curiosity, to those waiting for straight sex on the Filthy route, but is it just sex with Sophia that you're waiting for? Since it's probably more likely Sophia will wait and see how Dylan and Emma turn out for example. And is there any new information about Sam. Even if it's not with Sophia, I imagine getting the car, and the concert will help him in this regard
 

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Yes, he did. As far as I remember, he said that it would take more rendering time and that the size of the game is huge already, so he prefers not to do it. I believe that someone shared a response from patreon.

If I'm honest the increment in game size sounds like an excuse. This other dev, recreation, produces 1080p renders and his game Bad Memories is not that heavy.
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That 1080p image only weights 331kb. It's a matter of compress the images properly. But I'm not interested in 1080p, the rendering time would increase significantly, so, even slower updating time.
its the coding and compression bad memoires dev has way better coding and uses compression better
 

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If anyone wants to see how can a good developer increase his/her work output with all the money earned and keep promises then look at Fashion Business by decentmonkey.

Both games started as RPGM games, then switched to Ren'Py. Both are female protagonist corruption games, very different stories but also very similar. Both games have tons of renders just for story telling and extremely detailed renders tor this type of games. AWAM has a more realistic approach with more VN style, FB is more like a parody sandbox VN game.

L&P works like a turtle, very slow releases, keeping no promises, hiring no one. Obsessed with so called perfection, tinkering and wasting time on very unnecessary details and scenes.

DM works like a machine, releases regularly and more frequently, with render amounts that would put any developer to shame including L&P. He also is obsessed with perfected renders and details while actually providing logical and useful scenes.

One thinks he/she is a James Cameron, other one actually acts like James Cameron.

So think very carefully before supporting, compare both games and see what can be done right and what can be done so wrong. One has a great future, other one has a dark future drown in obsession and self worshipping.
 
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