VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[raining]

Suddenly this game reminds me, Dual Family. In a good way, I mean.

I hope this game never take "Abandoned" mark on it.

 

[ChiefStefan]

these saves are for the new version i ask for ver 0.95 if i not mistaken !

 

[Old Dog]

these saves are for the new version i ask for ver 0.95 if i not mistaken !

these are 0.95 save but I misread your post and they are at the end of the pool event

 

[Higurashika]

Well, update is cool. Thanks for hard work! But I'm afraid we will some incest action only in 2022

 

[ChiefStefan]

yes i think so

 

[Mamonetti]

Fair enough, but if they did all these things I've suggested then the early access could have better English and perhaps even no bugs at all if the work was handed over to others.

Think about it, if L&P got 1 or even a few people to help with the story development to maybe cut it down it a bit while still maintaining the quality of the relationship building, then once they've got a good script put together they can hand it to the translator while L&P starts work on the renders. Then when the translation is done it can be handed over to the coder who starts writing the code, and the proofreader to check for any mistakes. Once the proofreader is done, they can hand the corrected script to the coder who can go back and make the necessary corrections to the dialogue they've already coded. All the while L&P is working on the renders and once they're done, either at then end or as and when they're done, the coder can add the image titles, test the update, and then it's done.

The longest part of any update is still the render development, but at least this back-end stuff would most probably be done before they're finished the renders, so that would at least cut several weeks out of the development.

The first step to solve a problem is to realize that you have it, and unless L&P starts losing patrons massively, he/she won't make any major change on the development process. It's his/her treasure after all, and that's something I understand even though I don't agree with the way things are being done.

The problem in this case somehow reminds me to what is bound to happen with climate change, because we won't notice where the point of no return is until we've already crossed it.

And same here.. once patrons start dropping their support, I expect some sort of chain reaction. What may start with losing tens of them per week will can change quite rapidly to losing hundreds. Are these patrons going back? I reaaaally doubt it. We're talking about a game taking close to 15 years to be finished.. that's way too much, no matter how you look at it (not to mention the cost for the patrons..).

 

[armion82]

Well, update is cool. Thanks for hard work! But I'm afraid we will some incest action only in 2022

You are too generous.
But if you are talking about a kiss Dylan/Sophia you might be right.Or something more with Elly.
BTW not sure if the idea about Patricia missing for 1 game week,is still relevant.

 

[ChiefStefan]

for this event any particular requirement ?

 

[BuffNerd]

Why do you want to avoid the debt arc? Nothing bad happens to Sophia, she's not coerced into anything - she even has Liam's blessing to do it (if we even care about that). I don't think anything interesting is going to happen in it either, but the benefits like the Ellie/Julia event far outweigh what little adverse effects there are.

Ye, I forgot you had to choose between two scenes.

I just wanna avoid any possible prostitution routes. I mean who knows what'll happen with the guy in jail. It might not escalate to fucking but even after that scene the don might use her otherwise, like a stripper maybe and then that might escalate to his men getting touchy and maybe raping her later.

For instance, I like Aiden's blackmail arc up until now, I like Sophia exposing herself in front of her students and such... but I really wanna get out of it before it becomes a gangrape fest. Same goes for the debt arc. As long as the dev gives us ways out of "forceful" paths somewhere along the line, I don't really mind.

 

[Jashmyne]

For instance, I like Aiden's blackmail arc up until now, I like Sophia exposing herself in front of her students and such... but I really wanna get out of it before it becomes a gangrape fest. Same goes for the debt arc. As long as the dev gives us ways out of "forceful" paths somewhere along the line, I don't really mind.

Well I think Dylan taking self-defense classes will be a way out for Sophia without the sexual stuff.

 

[Old Dog]

Ye, I forgot you had to choose between two scenes.

I just wanna avoid any possible prostitution routes. I mean who knows what'll happen with the guy in jail. It might not escalate to fucking but even after that scene the don might use her otherwise, like a stripper maybe and then that might escalate to his men getting touchy and maybe raping her later.

For instance, I like Aiden's blackmail arc up until now, I like Sophia exposing herself in front of her students and such... but I really wanna get out of it before it becomes a gangrape fest. Same goes for the debt arc. As long as the dev gives us ways out of "forceful" paths somewhere along the line, I don't really mind.

gangrape fest,violence,rape will not happen in this game

 

[Jashmyne]

gangrape fest,violence,rape will not happen in this game

Which is why Dylan is a way out. But for those that like Aiden, I guess there will be a path where she like the dominating aspect of him and have sex with him and his gang willingly.

 

[Old Dog]

Which is why Dylan is a way out. But for those that like Aiden, I guess there will be a path where she like the dominating aspect of him and have sex with him and his gang willingly.

They still have other options to solve the Aiden problem but it will come down to players choice(maybe)

 

[Jashmyne]

They still have other options to solve the Aiden problem but it will come down to players choice(maybe)

Well Dylan fighting back(maybe even saving his mother) would be the best solution to it if you don't want sex with Aiden.
There is the janitor but I got a feeling that he will be used to deal with Bennett if you don't want to have sex with him.

 

[Higurashika]

But if you are talking about a kiss Dylan/Sophia you might be right.Or something more with Elly.

At this point I would be glad even to kissing. But I'd like to see sex, of course. At least with Patricia.

 

[tigers]

Is it just for me or the Showering scene from Dylan's perspective only happens if you have 13 or more points with Patricia?

I had 4 points from the jogging event, I keep playing the game like that, I reached the Yoga event and obviously choose Dylan's perspective, I choose all the right answers with Marie and sneak into the ladies locker room the first time, but by the end of the yoga event and wanting to sneak again on the girls showering...If Patricia's points are at 4 (in my case) Sophia changes and she walks out, later on after Dylan picks something from Zac's place the error appears saying "Dylan_watching_women showering" not defined.

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However, at 13 or more Patricia's points and in my test (by using UNREN I added 20 points), I even didn't let Sophia keep her hands on Patricia's chest but still at the moment for Dylan to sneak into the locker room...Sophia stayed there and the showering scene was available and I only have the LABEL FIX not the .script4 fix but with the points added the scene becomes available.

Another thing, by the car, at 4 points Sophia & Patricia just chat about stuff and that's okay because that's how my path goes, but when I added the 14 or more Patrica talks about Zoe and more interestingly, she mentioned about Sophia sticking her tongue down her throat and I didn't even play the Nightclub Scene because, in my path, Sophia went back home and waited for Liam from Casino NOT to the Nightclub.

Patricia at 4, not playing Patricia's events just the Jogging and teasing the hobos.
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Patricia at 15 points even when I didn't even play the Nightclub event.
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After the showering scene, I used UNREN again and changed Patricia's points back to 4, then everything carried on normally (accordingly to my path) they arrived at Zac's place and Sophia & Patricia waited just having a small chat, no Zoe nor any reference to the Nightclub kiss, Dylan comes back and gets into the car and there's no error appearing and the next render continues smoothly which is where the error appears before it and I had to click on "ignore" to jump to this render.

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There...should be a way or a difference to activate the showering scene without having Patricia's points dictate if it happens or not because that's related to choices and other paths that aren't connected to Dylan and thus Dylan wouldn't be able to peek at the girls showering. Unless it's something different that dictates if the showering scene is activated?

If anyone wants to test it out...

There are a lot of errors in the script. Now that the story is branching out in so many ways, L&P is fucking up. Cant keep them in check.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Well Dylan fighting back(maybe even saving his mother) would be the best solution to it if you don't want sex with Aiden.
There is the janitor but I got a feeling that he will be used to deal with Bennett if you don't want to have sex with him.

There won't be sex with Aiden, and Dylan beating him up would only make things worse.

 

[Roger000]

Partica and Sofia scene might come after 2 years she said Sunday so according to release date .5 after every 3 month thursday 6 month friday 6 month saturday 6 month and then after 3 month again Patrica event Thats 21 month almost 2 years

 

[Jashmyne]

There won't be sex with Aiden, and Dylan beating him up would only make things worse.

Has L&P specifically said that there won't be any sex with Aiden? Because all I recall is that there will be no rape and you will get a safe way of getting out of the deal without losing Dylan, same with Bennett. Other then that I haven't heard L&P say anything but Sophia not having sex with him.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Is it just for me or the Showering scene from Dylan's perspective only happens if you have 13 or more points with Patricia?

I had 4 points from the jogging event, I keep playing the game like that, I reached the Yoga event and obviously choose Dylan's perspective, I choose all the right answers with Marie and sneak into the ladies locker room the first time, but by the end of the yoga event and wanting to sneak again on the girls showering...If Patricia's points are at 4 (in my case) Sophia changes and she walks out, later on after Dylan picks something from Zac's place the error appears saying "Dylan_watching_women showering" not defined.

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However, at 13 or more Patricia's points and in my test (by using UNREN I added 20 points), I even didn't let Sophia keep her hands on Patricia's chest but still at the moment for Dylan to sneak into the locker room...Sophia stayed there and the showering scene was available and I only have the LABEL FIX not the .script4 fix but with the points added the scene becomes available.

Another thing, by the car, at 4 points Sophia & Patricia just chat about stuff and that's okay because that's how my path goes, but when I added the 14 or more Patrica talks about Zoe and more interestingly, she mentioned about Sophia sticking her tongue down her throat and I didn't even play the Nightclub Scene because, in my path, Sophia went back home and waited for Liam from Casino NOT to the Nightclub.

Patricia at 4, not playing Patricia's events just the Jogging and teasing the hobos.
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Patricia at 15 points even when I didn't even play the Nightclub event.
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After the showering scene, I used UNREN again and changed Patricia's points back to 4, then everything carried on normally (accordingly to my path) they arrived at Zac's place and Sophia & Patricia waited just having a small chat, no Zoe nor any reference to the Nightclub kiss, Dylan comes back and gets into the car and there's no error appearing and the next render continues smoothly which is where the error appears before it and I had to click on "ignore" to jump to this render.

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There...should be a way or a difference to activate the showering scene without having Patricia's points dictate if it happens or not because that's related to choices and other paths that aren't connected to Dylan and thus Dylan wouldn't be able to peek at the girls showering. Unless it's something different that dictates if the showering scene is activated?

If anyone wants to test it out...

Of course you need points with Patricia - it's a Patricia event. She is the one that brings Claire and Marie after all. Doing all the events with Patricia gives Sophia just enough points to shower with the other women.

If you follow either Mamonetti's or my walkthrough (with and without Dylan respectively), it easily gives you the Patricia points you need so that Dylan can peek at the women showering.