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ancienregimele

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I was wanting to discuss the ending. What do you guys think should be the end of this story. I personally don't want Sophia to turn into some sort of whore who does it with every guy. Maybe along the way with few guys but hopefully will return to her normal life. Not the typical ntr ending with the wife leaving her husband and just fucking every man in sight
I also don't want her to leave her husband. We've talked here about many possibilities but the divorce issue tends to get a bit glossed over. This world is full of broken marriages. As I've said elsewhere Sophia is a fiction & shouldn't be wrapped in cotton wool but I am repelled by the apparent ease with which relationships break up in the VN/game universe. "Won't somebody think of the children?"
 

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I also don't want her to leave her husband. We've talked here about many possibilities but the divorce issue tends to get a bit glossed over. This world is full of broken marriages. As I've said elsewhere Sophia is a fiction & shoulcn't be wrapped in cotton wool but I am repelled by the apparent ease with which relationships break up in the VN/game universe. "Won't somebody think of the children?"
Liam is Sophia's high school/college sweetheart so if we went for a bad ending what would it entail?
Sophia loves her kids/husband/career and the house that they live in and desperately wants more children.
If Sophia is caught having sex with one of her students then she would lose everything that she holds dear.Her career in teaching would be over and could face possible jail time.
The same could be said if she is ever caught having sex with Julia/Sam/Dylan/Ellie and it would ruin everything for her, the shame of comiting incest being made public.The shame on her family/friends
 
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By that logic then, then it's guaranteed there be a 3some with Sophia, Dylan and Sam.
If I was actually using logic, but I'm not. In the walkthrough it only talks about the Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia routes, those being the major characters. And we've already had events with Sam, Dylan and Sophia.

More info on Clark for those that care: here.

Liam is Sophia's high school/college sweetheart so if we went for a bad ending what would it entail?
Sophia loves her kids/husband/career and the house that they live in and desperately wants more children.
If Sophia is caught having sex with one of her students then she would lose everything that she holds dear.Her career in teaching would be over and could face possible jail time.
The same could be said if she is ever caught having sex with Julia/Sam/Dylan/Ellie and it would ruin everything for her, the shame of comiting incest being made public.The shame on her family/friends
That would depend on who Sophia is caught by, and caught with. The consequences of Sophia being caught with Sam or Dylan would be far more severe than with Julia or Ellie, with Sam or Dylan being adultery, but Julia or Ellie not. Sophia has already been caught with Ellie, and all Liam practically did was shrug his shoulders, comment that it'd be weird if he and Dylan did something like that and get back to what he was doing. And if I recall, on the Aiden route Dylan can spy on the Ellie/Julia event. Don't know if there are any consequences to this though.
 
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I don't think there will be a threesome with Dylan and Sam.
Sam is a romantic route. And when you see his triumphant grin at the pool event
when he beats his "friend", you can't believe he shares.
I think also it doesn't matter if you cheat on your spouse with a woman or a man,
it's always adultery.
Whether there is a preservation of the marriage in the end?
How do we want to get the ghost back into the lamp that we just let out?
 

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If I was actually using logic, but I'm not. In the walkthrough it only talks about the Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia routes, those being the major characters. And we've already had events with Sam, Dylan and Sophia.

More info on Clark for those that care: here.


That would depend on who Sophia is caught by, and caught with. The consequences of Sophia being caught with Sam or Dylan would be far more severe than with Julia or Ellie, with Sam or Dylan being adultery, but Julia or Ellie not. Sophia has already been caught with Ellie, and all Liam practically did was shrug his shoulders, comment that it'd be weird if he and Dylan did something like that and get back to what he was doing. And if I recall, on the Aiden route Dylan can spy on the Ellie/Julia event. Don't know if there are any consequences to this though.
Caught with Dylan/Ellie,under age and incest,caught with Julia under age,all could have very bad ending.
If Amber/Neil caught Sophia with Julia/Ellie it would end bad the same would go for Sam as well.
Getting caught with Zac would really mess things up with the school board and maybe also Alyssa
Sophia would lose the job she loves and how would Liam cope?He is the CEO of a fashion company would he have to step down because of all the bad press and all his hard work was for nothing?
 

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If I was actually using logic, but I'm not. In the walkthrough it only talks about the Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia routes, those being the major characters. And we've already had events with Sam, Dylan and Sophia.

More info on Clark for those that care: here.


That would depend on who Sophia is caught by, and caught with. The consequences of Sophia being caught with Sam or Dylan would be far more severe than with Julia or Ellie, with Sam or Dylan being adultery, but Julia or Ellie not. Sophia has already been caught with Ellie, and all Liam practically did was shrug his shoulders, comment that it'd be weird if he and Dylan did something like that and get back to what he was doing. And if I recall, on the Aiden route Dylan can spy on the Ellie/Julia event. Don't know if there are any consequences to this though.
I don't think there will be a threesome with Dylan and Sam.
Sam is a romantic route. And when you see his triumphant grin at the pool event
when he beats his "friend", you can't believe he shares.
I think also it doesn't matter if you cheat on your spouse with a woman or a man,
it's always adultery.
Whether there is a preservation of the marriage in the end?
How do we want to get the ghost back into the lamp that we just let out?
Yeah..adultery is ALWAYS adutlery regardless of who it is with. However, something hzjujk is missing, is that men and women think vastly different about the subject. if my wife/gf was caught with another woman would I go up the wall? Damn sure. Would I leave her? very unlikely...generally men do not see a woman as a threat, being a majorly disloyal and also get turned on by it.

The same cannot be said if you caught your woman with anotehr guy. Plus, in the shower scene, it's not like Ellie had her head between Sophia's legs...they were just stood close together. Liams reaction is as normal as it can be to me, women do a hell of a lot of things together that most men would never consider doing.

So back to Alley...if Liam did catch Ellie and Sophia actually have sex...sure he might be miffed, but I doubt it would go beyond that. Even the same as Dylan (though Dylan be majorly unhappy Ellie got there first lmao). However, should either of those catch Sophie with Dylan/Sam...that's a very different matter, just because of the way the two sexes think differently.

Caught with Dylan/Ellie,under age and incest,caught with Julia under age,all could have very bad ending.
If Amber/Neil caught Sophia with Julia/Ellie it would end bad the same would go for Sam as well.
All are under age and Zac is one of her students.
Sophia would lose the job she loves and how would Liam cope?He is the CEO of a fashion company would he have to step down because of all the bad press and all his hard work was for nothing?
Had this convo with A_C myself...where is the game set...do we know for sure? Only underage if set in the States which has what...4 different age of consents and is still in the biblical dark ages with stuff like that?
 

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Yeah..adultery is ALWAYS adutlery regardless of who it is with. However, something hzjujk is missing, is that men and women think vastly different about the subject. if my wife/gf was caught with another woman would I go up the wall? Damn sure. Would I leave her? very unlikely...generally men do not see a woman as a threat, being a majorly disloyal and also get turned on by it.

The same cannot be said if you caught your woman with anotehr guy. Plus, in the shower scene, it's not like Ellie had her head between Sophia's legs...they were just stood close together. Liams reaction is as normal as it can be to me, women do a hell of a lot of things together that most men would never consider doing.

So back to Alley...if Liam did catch Ellie and Sophia actually have sex...sure he might be miffed, but I doubt it would go beyond that. Even the same as Dylan (though Dylan be majorly unhappy Ellie got there first lmao). However, should either of those catch Sophie with Dylan/Sam...that's a very different matter, just because of the way the two sexes think differently.


Had this convo with A_C myself...where is the game set...do we know for sure? Only underage if set in the States which has what...4 different age of consents and is still in the biblical dark ages with stuff like that?
We did work it out and if I remember right Ellie is almost 18yrs old and Dylan is about 12-18 months younger but I would really need to check on that as Dylan was help back a year.
So I guess Julia could be around the same age as Ellie.
Can you imagine how pissed Neil would be if he caught Julia/Sophia together
 
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We did work it out and if I remember right Ellie is almost 18yrs old and Dylan is about 12-18 months younger but I would really need to check on that as Dylan was help back a year.
So I guess Julia could be around the same age as Ellie.
Can you imagine how pissed Neil would be if he caught Julia/Sophia together
That's was the whole point of my post. I really don't think he would...as most men probably wouldn't be. Sam yes...Dylan for certain...Ellie perhaps a little...Julia...nope as the majority (and it is the majority) of men understand women experiment with each other and that another woman is rarely a threat to them. That's how the male sex is wired (this ihas also been pyschologically evaluated btw). There's a reason there's so much lesbian porn and it's not made primarily for women.
 

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That's was the whole point of my post. I really don't think he would...as most men probably wouldn't be. Sam yes...Dylan for certain...Ellie perhaps a little...Julia...nope as the majority (and it is the majority) of men understand women experiment with each other and that another woman is rarely a threat to them. That's how the male sex is wired (this ihas also been pyschologically evaluated btw). There's a reason there's so much lesbian porn and it's not made primarily for women.
It was mentioned by Sophia that if/when Julia/Ellie told people about there relationship and if Neil caused any trouble for them Sophia would sort him out.Amber seems more open minded
 
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It was mentioned by Sophia that if/when Julia/Ellie told people about there relationship and if Neil caused any trouble for them Sophia would sort him out.Amber seems more open minded
I personally think she said that to just placate the girls nerves. From what we have seen (or I've interpreted)...while Liam might be pretty boring and vanilla, he certainly doesn't seem to be overly judgemental or rightous and would rain down hail and brimstone if his daughter was gay.
 

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I don't think there will be a threesome with Dylan and Sam.
Sam is a romantic route. And when you see his triumphant grin at the pool event
when he beats his "friend", you can't believe he shares.
I think also it doesn't matter if you cheat on your spouse with a woman or a man,
it's always adultery.
Whether there is a preservation of the marriage in the end?
How do we want to get the ghost back into the lamp that we just let out?
No it's not. Adultery and adulteration have the same etymology, and you can't have adulteration (of a bloodline in this case) from a homosexual relationship, since it wont bear children. It will still be cheating, but it wont be adultery.
Caught with Dylan/Ellie,under age and incest,caught with Julia under age,all could have very bad ending.
If Amber/Neil caught Sophia with Julia/Ellie it would end bad the same would go for Sam as well.
Getting caught with Zac would really mess things up with the school board and maybe also Alyssa
Sophia would lose the job she loves and how would Liam cope?He is the CEO of a fashion company would he have to step down because of all the bad press and all his hard work was for nothing?
What makes you think Ellie and Julia are underage? Since they're a few months away from graduation, they could easily be 18. Especially since Ellie now has tats, which you can only do if you're at least 18.
 

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No it's not. Adultery and adulteration have the same etymology, and you can't have adulteration (of a bloodline in this case) from a homosexual relationship, since it wont bear children. It will still be cheating, but it wont be adultery.

What makes you think Ellie and Julia are underage? Since they're a few months away from graduation, they could easily be 18. Especially since Ellie now has tats, which you can only do if you're at least 18.
Dylan has longer to go but yes you could be right I also said that Ellie/Julia could be a round the same age.I don't think that they quite 18 yet,we worked out the ages a while a go.
Yes it is only guess work given the current information that we have.
 
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Considering that the last "secret" preview was two Moms bumping into each other during shopping, the new one will likely be not the least bit more interesting. It is laughable that L&P order their patrons not to share these pics! I am German myself and our afternoon soaps are raunchier than what AWAM delivered up to date. Over the years L&P ever more comes across as a real Bleistiftgeraderücker and Kirschkernpolierer. It is one thing to be rightfully proud and watching over your creation and another to hide promo stuff behind paywalls.
 

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Dylan has longer to go but yes you could be right I also said that Ellie/Julia could be a round the same age.I don't think that they quite 18 yet,we worked out the ages a while a go.
And the conclusion of that was that Ellie was 18, since she is younger than Nathalie, who is stated in her interview that she is 19. The Dylan fans believe Ellie herself to be 19. What makes you believe Ellie is younger? She doesn't need to be underage for L&P to obfuscate her age, since it would need only to be done to obfuscate Dylan's, with him being a year younger.
 

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Well it’s a tier for level 5 patreon probably L&P asked them not to show the image we will have to wait and knowing L&P will probably be nothing special (I hope I'm wrong)
I'm sure it's worth it just like the other one was worth it too with that absolutely naughty pic of two characters pressing their chest together.

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And the conclusion of that was that Ellie was 18, since she is younger than Nathalie, who is stated in her interview that she is 19. The Dylan fans believe Ellie herself to be 19. What makes you believe Ellie is younger? She doesn't need to be underage for L&P to obfuscate her age, since it would need only to be done to obfuscate Dylan's, with him being a year younger.
I will take your word on that one,maybe I got it mixed up with something but I was sure she was younger.
I wonder how many people are scrambling to google to find out what "obfuscate" means?
 
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