VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[dima1986]

but at this moment already now incest scenes?

The funny thing is that incest on the stage was not and should not have been much time, until the middle of the game somewhere. The author writes about a candid banner with a naked body. This is a problem, and this causes bewilderment.

 

[dima1986]

Thanks, I hope for you that it works with his planned page for the Incest Patch.

My main questline is actually the Lesbian route. The Sam route I play mainly because of the Filthypunkte (33 points, Lesbian route only 16), which you may need later for the school questline.

I respect your point of view. Do not get me wrong. I'm not against Sam or other characters. I got Sam's glasses to get an obscene wife. And I also like the same lesbian route, I also pump it up. I want to get Sophia with her daughter, sister and other female characters.

 

[Ignatz]

L&P (based on his messages to patrons) seems to be taking a more confrontational position to Patreon than most other creators. Not out of character for this dev, who resists the siren calls of people demanding instant sex.

The difference here is that the counter-argument he proposes isn't going to convince a "corporate entity". He makes an argument based on art and they make one based on proprietary rules. They own the site and can decide what can and can't be shown. Art, subjective at all times, doesn't enter into it.

Hopefully, L&P recognizes this in the end and just changes the images on his page. At this time, Patreon is making no requests he change anything about his game.

We shall see. I applaud when he is stubborn about his creative vision. I would not recommend the same attitude regarding changing his Patreon graphics.

 

[dima1986]

L&P (based on his messages to patrons) seems to be taking a more confrontational position to Patreon than most other creators. Not out of character for this dev, who resists the siren calls of people demanding instant sex.

The difference here is that the counter-argument he proposes isn't going to convince a "corporate entity". He makes an argument based on art and they make one based on proprietary rules. They own the site and can decide what can and can't be shown. Art, subjective at all times, doesn't enter into it.

Hopefully, L&P recognizes this in the end and just changes the images on his page. At this time, Patreon is making no requests he change anything about his game.

We shall see. I applaud when he is stubborn about his creative vision. I would not recommend the same attitude regarding changing his Patreon graphics.

I wish the author of the game speedy success. The main thing is not to delay this issue. I support and pray for him. Let them defend their position, but not fanaticism. Banner - this is not something for which it is worth sacrificing the game.

 

[bagodoughnuts]

So does this mean it is dead, or will there be another route to fund the project?

 

[DeafPerv]

I have got suspended today as well.
They asked me to change my banner and tier images.
Anything that even implies nudity isn't allowed

 

[dima1986]

So does this mean it is dead, or will there be another route to fund the project?

As I understand it now, he is just trying to convince the moderators not to touch his banners. In fact, the problem is not great.

I have got suspended today as well.
They asked me to change my banner and tier images.
Anything that even implies nudity isn't allowed

Will you obey?

 

[DeafPerv]

I've already changed everything.

 

[thecardinal]

If I'm not mistaken, Lust & Passion planned incest all along, so they always knew Patreon was temporary. I don't agree with Patreon, but going against their guidelines is foolish.

 

[dima1986]

If I'm not mistaken, Lust & Passion planned incest all along, so they always knew Patreon was temporary. I don't agree with Patreon, but going against their guidelines is foolish.

Now it is not about incest, but about explicit pictures on the site.

 

[bobbo69]

Patreon drew a line in the sand on bestiality, rape, depictions of minors, necrophilia, and incest; all of which are not allowed in games. They require all public content to be appropriate for all ages (like Lust & Passions avatar). They've made it pretty clear, and some games get around the rules by releasing patches for their games.

These rules were last updated in October, a week before the dev released this game. Anyone who tries to work around these rules does so at his/her own risk. Patreon has it's issues, but devs need to read the community guidelines

Then explain to me how come Wicked Choices had a rape scene with his own sister and it was accepted by Patreon, please explain it to me.

I asked him to remove it and he refused.

 

[thecardinal]

Now it is not about incest, but about explicit pictures on the site.

Right, but ignoring their guidelines and planning on including incest are part of the same problem, Dev ignoring Patreon guidelines.

Then explain to me how come Wicked Choices had a rape scene with his own sister and it was accepted by Patreon, please explain it to me.

I asked him to remove it and he refused.

I have no idea, never played that game. They say they are against the 'glorification' of tape and incest. They have a team that considers the historical and educational narrative of it.

 

[dima1986]

Right, but ignoring their guidelines and planning on including incest are part of the same problem, Dev ignoring Patreon guidelines.

You're right. But this is a problem of the future. There are no incest scenes yet. And almost no porn scene in the game. The author was preparing for this development of events and wrote about his site, where he will lay out frank material.

 

[Akamari]

Right, but ignoring their guidelines and planning on including incest are part of the same problem, Dev ignoring Patreon guidelines.



I have no idea, never played that game. They say they are against the 'glorification' of tape and incest. They have a team that considers the historical and educational narrative of it.

All the dev needs to do is give a disclaimer image in the beginning saying that characters are not blood related. There you go, no incest.

It's much better solution than what I see from other devs just replacing mom for landlady and similar bullshit. If I were on a crusade against incest I would ban every game that does that for implied incest and insulting my intelligence.

 

[dima1986]

All the dev needs to do is give a disclaimer image in the beginning saying that characters are not blood related. There you go, no incest.

It's much better solution than what I see from other devs just replacing mom for landlady and similar bullshit. If I were on a crusade against incest I would ban every game that does that for implied incest and insulting my intelligence.

It's even better to ban all porn games. In general, all the games where there is sex or naked body.x'D
The plot of incest is very important, many play only for him. Without Sofia's relationship with Dylan and Ellie, the game will be half-dead.

 

[thecardinal]

It's even better to ban all porn games. In general, all the games where there is sex or naked body.x'D
The plot of incest is very important, many play only for him. Without Sofia's relationship with Dylan and Ellie, the game will be half-dead.

This Dev will have to decide between taking a paycut to finish the game on another site or to exclude incest altogether.

 

[Akamari]

It's even better to ban all porn games. In general, all the games where there is sex or naked body.x'D
The plot of incest is very important, many play only for him. Without Sofia's relationship with Dylan and Ellie, the game will be half-dead.

LOL I mean no incest from the patreon's point of view...officially. You can assume it's incest as much as you damn well please. For example, I'm not into incest at all, so I might assume they are not blood related anyway.

 

[dima1986]

This Dev will have to decide between taking a paycut to finish the game on another site or to exclude incest altogether.

We will not go to extremes. Excluding the relationship between Sophia Dylan and Ellie, he will destroy the game itself. There are many different options that have already been talked about. The patch of incest, change the name, the author even earlier said about his site. The problem is solved.
Do not forget that because of incest there are no problems, the problem lies in the frank pictures on the site.

 

[DeafPerv]

This Dev will have to decide between taking a paycut to finish the game on another site or to exclude incest altogether.

Not really. There's no need to take a pay cut or exclude incest.
Just don't put anything related to incest in Patreon, don't let people comment about incest and finally make a non-incest game only for Patreon. Make a patch and have it uploaded on Lewd Patcher or on this site. Then all the game hosting sites will take it from there.
That's how most of the devs work without having to worry about getting banned for incest.

 

[dima1986]

Not really. There's no need to take a pay cut or exclude incest.
Just don't put anything related to incest in Patreon, don't let people comment about incest and finally make a non-incest game only for Patreon. Make a patch and have it uploaded on Lewd Patcher or on this site. Then all the game hosting sites will take it from there.
That's how most of the devs work without having to worry about getting banned for incest.

Gold words. God grant, it will be so. And the author will make the game the way he planned.