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roberto1982

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Someones says game really bad so I want asking why we are talking about that game around 270 pages
First @Lust&Passion is not a lazy creator he or she is very hardworking, he can make too many money with a cheap porn game you know sophia can easily cheat her husband or foursome with sam dylan and dau and he can make very big money with this but he is a stargazer he do what he think, i respect him i hate blue color at my balls but we must wait for his decision. sorry for my english
 

Lerox

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A far as I can remember developer stated somewhere that first explicit sex scene between Sophia and other man than her husband appears around 16 game day. If thats true and I am not wrong, its far ahead of now, at least ten updates ahead. Lie ahead for many moaning about lack of sex scenes. But on the other hand, it is strong point for developer, that he honestly presents plan for the game. If we know it, here and on Patreon site, than what is the point for complaining? Im satisfied with that pacing of development if I know there will be planty of sex scenes. Except that in the second half of the game, nothing wrong.
 

UncleVT

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I'm agree with you. People come here like the dev is cheating on they. But
its far ahead of now, at least ten updates ahead.
Isn't really like that. The game has 30 days planned, but doesn't mean that there will be 30 updates. Some days will be skipped.
 

Eye-switcher

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I'm agree with you. People come here like the dev is cheating on they. But

Isn't really like that. The game has 30 days planned, but doesn't mean that there will be 30 updates. Some days will be skipped.
That scares me to be honest, well not in like bohoo-scares me, but with 30 Days, i see all this wonderful characters that she is bonding with that potentially could be great sexscenes and soon we are halfway and she hasnt had sex once , not even her husband, excebt a bj. So there is not many Days left (17?) for her to have sex on. She keeps on squibling away and nothing happens, so will Everything happen the last 5 Days, will she fuck everybody in thoose Days. Moving guys, postman, old guys, 10 different women, muggers, son and daughter, sister and sisters man, teacher and maybe even her husband. can you say rushed?
To create that and call it realistic, i dont know...
 

UncleVT

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That scares me to be honest, well not in like bohoo-scares me, but with 30 Days, i see all this wonderful characters that she is bonding with that potentially could be great sexscenes and soon we are halfway and she hasnt had sex once , not even her husband, excebt a bj. So there is not many Days left (17?) for her to have sex on. She keeps on squibling away and nothing happens, so will Everything happen the last 5 Days, will she fuck everybody in thoose Days. Moving guys, postman, old guys, 10 different women, muggers, son and daughter, sister and sisters man, teacher and maybe even her husband. can you say rushed?
To create that and call it realistic, i dont know...
Take it or leave it, no one obliges.
 

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That game makes realy fun and have a awsome looking mom :p that you are steering. It´s famous that gives you a game where are the hot mom and take you chances, not that it always do the son/sister/both (im not complaining :angel:). Can´t wait to see more of that beauties. Thx :eek:penedeyewink:
 

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What did you mean by "bad husband" exactly then? Because I interpreted it that you meant how he fails in Sophia's eyes, not that he is overall a bad person or anything.
Definitely. Not necessarily have to be a bad person, but can simply be a bad husband in a way that he didn't do what a husband is supposed to. Think about what's a good wife is like, then that should be what a good husband is like. Same with bad wife and bad husband. Bad wife can be about ignoring the husband, ignoring the kids, etc.

But what we have here is the husband being pretty much ignorant to the wife, which means there's no actual benefit of being a good wife to such husband. And worse, even if you be a bad wife, the husband stayed the same one dimensional husband that is not affected by how you reacted as a the wife.

The teacher character could have been put to better use if given a different personality.
Assume instead he was a charming, friendly, nice one...
It's unfortunately the trend in the game. The one person (husband) that is supposed to be nice to her is being no good. The other people (non-husband male characters) that are supposed to be good to her are all jerks. The one path that seemed to be rewarding is lesbianism where the female characters are actually nice to her.

I don't know if that kind of thing is just the fantasy of the dev, but the characters seem to fall into stereotypes that it doesn't feel too realistic.

He builds up his characters for to long. Doesnt know which plot should be the main plot to follow so he cant transition clean into it cause no one knows what the main story even is but can name me alot of side stories who lead to alot of things except sex or even naked ppl.
Exactly. For a game that is this large so far, it's very disappointing that there is no plot existing.

The plot develops perfectly. We went through the introductory part and go to the main one
But what exactly is the plot? You said it's a masterpiece before, now you said it develops perfectly. But you haven't actually been able to explain what the plot actually is. Please explain what the plot is and why it develops perfectly and is such a masterpiece.

If someone asked what the plot of Harry Potter is, the answer is not simply "well it's about Harry" though a boy named Harry is indeed the main character. There are things happening around him, there is a plot going on, and that Harry is simply the character within the plot that the main story revolves around.

On the other hand, there is no actual plot going on in this game other than just being Sophia. Yes, there are things happening to other characters, yes there are things happening to Sophia herself, but there is nothing that ties them around together to be called a plot. It's simply individual mini stories that don't really go anywhere, and not really connected to one another either. They exist simply so the game has content. That's why plot-wise, it's pretty much like a Kardashian reality show where it's simply about things happening to Kardashians without necessarily having a plot/narrative to the story. To me, that is not a masterpiece.
 

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I'll usually wait three or four pages worth and just skim the first couple of lines. If it reads like deja vu - on either side - I just keep skipping.

Really, I think anything original from the peanut gallery (of which I am an original member) has just about been used up by now.
 
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for what ever reason, I don't have the scene on the train. She just gets on the bus and goes home what do I need to do to get that scene
 

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Before the update, I've personally imagined the whole teacher drama a lot more elaborated, if I may say so.
The teacher character could have been put to better use if given a different personality.
Assume instead he was a charming, friendly, nice one...

On the good path > teacher accepts dinner at Sophia's home > makes friends with Liam > solve Dylan's problem ofc > starts more friendly events with Sophia's family > at some point there's a threesome with him, Liam and Sophia > maybe he has a student girlfriend and they could go for a foursome.

On the filthy path > teacher is still charming and friendly > Sophia gets romantically involved with him, ofc in his bed as well > the blackmail route comes from the school principal who finds out about their relation. In such a case the blackmail would have more ground than the history test one. Plus, Sophia would switch from good wife to cheating wife first and only then to the filthy one, making things more plausible given her prudeness.

Using characters on both paths would also help the dev by saving some renders instead of creating new events, he would only need to change text and add the different sexual content.
Plus could offer him a chance later to add more side-stories: like what if the young teacher gets involved with Ellie or Patricia?

Well, I'm really curious now to see what the dev actually has in store on this.
I actually find the teacher character and path to be more exciting and believable than either of the suggestions above.
 

ltpika

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If you hardly know anything about the characters yet then I'm really sorry for you because there has been shown and explained a lot about them! Really every characters has a different personality! And of course you'll still learn more about them, after all this has been just maybe 18% of the whole games!
Let me explain what I meant: they've not gone much beyond their stock personality types, only the daughter got some insight in the scene with her friend this go around. That was the only good scene in the update, because I learned a little something about her. The rest was just filler, you don't learn anything from someone's shirt tearing open AGAIN. That's great that you have plans to go deeper, I wish you the best on that. I really do. But good storytelling is about using your time efficiently.

Putting in so many filler scenes really buries the good moments. Remember your readers are probably playing a lot of games and can't remember the details as well as the person making it. So you want to make sure the scenes you put in there are worthwhile and memorable so they stick with people. Another dumb scene with accidental dick touching doesn't do that, blurs with a million other games. And it seems to be your aim to do something different, right?

The game is very large in file size too, might be a good reason to keep all that hard work on renders on scenes that are important and not the accidental touching scenes. You do excellent work on your renders, I'd hate to see the quality downgraded for space reasons.
 
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Skylaroo

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With "nothing happened at all" you and many other means no "porn content"!
I never said that even once at all in any of my post.

Because actually there happened some really important things for the further course of the story: 1) the little approach of Sophia and Ellie 2) the reaction on the subway assault 3) If nursing job accepted: Sophia and the old men got to know each other a bit 4) Emma's "transformation" and a further approach to Sophia (they got kind of a friendly relationship now) 5) Dylan got some new bruises - Sophia becomes a little suspicious and talks with her husband about it 6) Liam meets Nathalie 7) The dinner with Dylan's teacher and him showing his real face (he's currently the obstacle of Dylan's way to college!)
You're completely missing the point, and what you said here actually supported what @Yggalf mentioned as a problem of the writing. You're writing A LOT of side-stories that are pretty much individual and disconnected from one another because there is no main plot.

What I meant with "nothing happened at all" is in relation to the main plot. All of those 7 things you listed did not bring any advancement to the main plot because even after all these updates, there was still no main plot happening.

My game is much more like a real life adventure, where the main goal is the approach to the people you met, get to know each other better and maybe helping to solve their problems.
Thank you, and this is why your game is more like a Kardashian reality show where the camera simply follows the person and see what happens in their life without necessarily having any narrative. Reality shows have a bunch of episodes but no singular overarching storyline from beginning to the end. That's why I disagree with someone who said your plot is a masterpiece. The game is simply "be Sophia", and that is not a plot. It's just content.

Think about it this way, you're making a soup. So far, what you've done is you've cut 25 different vegetables. What you haven't done is making sure that all those 25 vegetables are actually needed to make a delicious soup. And what you're doing next is most likely cutting up 7 more different vegetables. You just keep on adding more and more ingredients. It doesn't mean you'd make a delicious soup.


EDIT: Note that this doesn't mean your game is shit. It just means that there is no plot, and things could've been presented in a much better way if the writing is improved.
 

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But what exactly is the plot? You said it's a masterpiece before, now you said it develops perfectly. But you haven't actually been able to explain what the plot actually is. Please explain what the plot is and why it develops perfectly and is such a masterpiece.

If someone asked what the plot of Harry Potter is, the answer is not simply "well it's about Harry" though a boy named Harry is indeed the main character. There are things happening around him, there is a plot going on, and that Harry is simply the character within the plot that the main story revolves around.

On the other hand, there is no actual plot going on in this game other than just being Sophia. Yes, there are things happening to other characters, yes there are things happening to Sophia herself, but there is nothing that ties them around together to be called a plot. It's simply individual mini stories that don't really go anywhere, and not really connected to one another either. They exist simply so the game has content. That's why plot-wise, it's pretty much like a Kardashian reality show where it's simply about things happening to Kardashians without necessarily having a plot/narrative to the story. To me, that is not a masterpiece.
You have even the author of the game explained everything. Enough of subjective and unreasonable criticism. The game is gorgeous. It is beautiful all the models, conversations, dialogues, plot. Smooth, unhurried development of the plot - this is the strength of the game, not a flaw. The absence of stupid porn scenes at the beginning of the game is good, not bad. If you do not like it, this game is not for you. Play in stereotyped, stupid porn.
 
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