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Sabertooth__

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Only problem with that is how do you stop people voting multiple times. Even if you lock it to an IP, there are numerous ways to get around it.
Another suggestion can be to have two separate polls. One exclusively for patrons and one as I suggested previously a public one. Of course he can pay more emphasis on the patron poll but the public poll can also give him an understanding of what the people want.
 

Mantis-male

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All this talk of Sophia having sex has reminded me of two critical pieces of information that we don't seem to have yet:
  1. Does Sophia squirt?
  2. Does Sophia swallow?
1. In the shower with Ellie, Sophia said that some women can have it, but she didn't have it
2. If I'm not mistaken, it can happen under the right circumstances with Liam
 
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Hlextor

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I have a request to you personally and to many other visitors of this forum. Please trust L&P a little more, he really does a lot and I understand that there is still more to be done.
Do not think that he has no desire to speed up the work! He just doesn't want to speed up to the detriment of render quality and storytelling.
What lack of trust? I guess I misunderstand you or you misunderstand my comment. I know him. It's fine with me. I don't mind if it takes years to finish the game. All fine!
 

Bane71

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What lack of trust? I guess I misunderstand you or you misunderstand my comment. I know him. It's fine with me. I don't mind if it takes years to finish the game. All fine!
Sorry, this message is more addressed to all forum guests than to you personally. Sorry.
 
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nexer

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Patron: Hire someone to help with renders.
L&P: No. It wouldn't work with my process. I write and render scenes simultaneously.
I'll be redundant, but humans are not 2-core processors.
When you work with DAZ you have a lot to think about.
Text, which is the most important, needs a special "mood", especially for adults. You need to be inspired, or rather, moments of maximum inspiration come and go.

:unsure: I don't think L&P is in Sophia's situation of continued horniness.
 

nexer

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'Even finding someone competent for translating or coding didn't work out.'
The quality of its code is beginner level. There I guess it's more a personality problem.
Renpy is simple, you declare variables, set them True/False and jump around. It slows down a lot the text input part and the connection between the render file and the links to the main file.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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I wrote to L&P and asked him to conduct a survey about the lower quality of the renders, if this solution would speed up the release of updates. Based on the survey, think about and decide how to move on.
So on one post you're here bashing (and liking comments doing the same) whoever wants him to develop faster without decreasing the quality of his renders and now you're proposing a survey to lower the quality of the renders? Logic = 0


Decreasing quality isn't the answer for someone like L&P, decreasing quantity is.
This is going to be another update that I open the images folder, see the thumbnails and plenty of the images will look the same. The problem with L&P is that in his mind quantity of renders = good, hence why whenever an update comes up he says "with 12390823 renders, 14% more than last update!!" like anyone cares about that.

The only thing that stands out in this VN compared to other games is render quality and you want to take that out? Doesn't make any sense.
I also suggested that L&P release updates within every 1 - 3 months, no more, depending on the ready-made materials on the events of the game day.
This is the way, has to be the way. Fixed version updates, I guess it's the only way he can be measured when developing.
 
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Bane71

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So on one post you're here bashing (and liking comments doing the same) whoever wants him to develop faster without decreasing the quality of his renders and now you're proposing a survey to lower the quality of the renders? Logic = 0


Decreasing quality isn't the answer for someone like L&P, decreasing quantity is.
This is going to be another update that I open the images folder, see the thumbnails and plenty of the images will look the same. The problem with L&P is that in his mind quantity of renders = good, hence why whenever an update comes up he says "with 12390823 renders, 14% more than last update!!" like anyone cares about that.

The only thing that stands out in this VN compared to other games is render quality and you want to take that out? Doesn't make any sense.


This is the way, has to be the way. Fixed version updates, I guess it's the only way he can be measured when developing.
Probably my bad English prevents you from understanding me correctly.
I use an electronic translator.

First of all, I never scold anyone. I drew the attention of some users that they have no right to insult and accuse L&P. I guess it's completely different, it's not scolding.

Second, I understand that reducing the quality of rendering is an unpleasant decision, but you can consider this option. That doesn't mean I insist. This is just one approach. My logic is easy to understand if you understand me correctly.

To a greater extent, I am against harsh statements here on the forum both to L&P and to other users. Unfortunately, many of us lack tolerance for the opinions of our opponents.
 
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nexer

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Synthesizing a little: Quality will not decrease, He will not hire anyone.
What remains? That the distance from A to B doesn't go through C/D/E...., and to be as straight a line as possible.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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Patron: Hire someone to help with renders.
L&P: No. It wouldn't work with my process. I write and render scenes simultaneously.
I remember saying he could render has he designs, just let someone else render.

"It wont do anything as he renders as he designs"
More than a year later and its clear that the design moves when the rendering is not moving and the rendering moves when the design isnt moving.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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Synthesizing a little: Quality will not decrease, He will not hire anyone.
What remains? That the distance from A to B doesn't go through C/D/E...., and to be as straight a line as possible.
Nothing. He most likely won't do anything.
Patrons will be fed up and leave while new patrons come in. It's a perpetual cycle until eventually L&P is bored of doing this/life gets in the way etc.

It'll start with more excuses each cycle until he's launching 1 update a year and then eventually it just fades off.
It's the same in 99% of these situations where the developer lacks the mindset to discipline himself.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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So on one post you're here bashing (and liking comments doing the same) whoever wants him to develop faster without decreasing the quality of his renders and now you're proposing a survey to lower the quality of the renders? Logic = 0


Decreasing quality isn't the answer for someone like L&P, decreasing quantity is.
This is going to be another update that I open the images folder, see the thumbnails and plenty of the images will look the same. The problem with L&P is that in his mind quantity of renders = good, hence why whenever an update comes up he says "with 12390823 renders, 14% more than last update!!" like anyone cares about that.

The only thing that stands out in this VN compared to other games is render quality and you want to take that out? Doesn't make any sense.


This is the way, has to be the way. Fixed version updates, I guess it's the only way he can be measured when developing.
There were links on here about Quality vs. Quantity. Did you not ready L&P response to that post? If not or didn't see the post, here is the link again.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-3931853

L&P:
"That quality goes hand in hand with quantity is what you say. For me, quality is the fastidious work on every single render including everything from the lighting over scene subtleties to the smallest pose and expression detail. The quantity is just a byproduct which emerges by the amount of renders I need to tell a scene!"

The short story is his quality is based on what he needs to make it stand out. So L&P may need 1 render or 10000000 renders in his eyes.

The reality here is that someone would need to review scenes of his novel and find out which scene has multiple renders that may be similar in nature and show him that his quality of that scene wouldn't suffer if he removed a couple here and there. He did propose this once, that if someone would show him the scene they feel was not need and explain it to him, L&P would, in turn, explain why he needed it.

So the issue at hand here isn't just the render count; it's trying to convince him that his Quality will not suffer if images were removed over all that can afford to be removed, as the quantity or render count is the byproduct side of it.
 

Bane71

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Synthesizing a little: Quality will not decrease, He will not hire anyone.
What remains? That the distance from A to B doesn't go through C/D/E...., and to be as straight a line as possible.
I understand, but! He has already tried to hire someone and is still doing. Maybe we will all be lucky and he will find a sufficiently qualified assistant who can be trusted.

As I said, this is not easy, especially if you have high requirements. Unfortunately, many do not understand this, they think that it is very simple.

For example, I could help him with text and dialogues, but not in English. :(

So, we have just that case when it is much easier to criticize than to understand the depth of the problems that the L&P has to solve. I'm not even talking about doing the work in conjunction with L&P.
 

nexer

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Nothing. He most likely won't do anything.
Patrons will be fed up and leave while new patrons come in. It's a perpetual cycle until eventually L&P is bored of doing this/life gets in the way etc.

It'll start with more excuses each cycle until he's launching 1 update a year and then eventually it just fades off.
It's the same in 99% of these situations where the developer lacks the mindset to discipline himself.
Possibly.
There's another option, he's moved into a new house, has a mortgage, and he is thinking of prolonging the game while the mortgage lasts. Because starting another game has a dose of risk.
 
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