VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Poser_Voyeur]

I think it's completely unclear at the moment what Patricia wants and how far she will go. She wants sexual incestuous fun with Sophia and is apparently ready to involve Dylan as well. That in itself is madness. Liam doesn't play the slightest role in this game.
That Carl said that his wife can have fun with women but definitely not with men doesn't automatically mean Patricia thinks the same way. It gives the impression that she thinks Carl has given her something like permission. Patricia plays with fire with Sophia and Dylan and I can't see that she wants to step on the brakes at some point.
I think she wants to break her chains and she wants to do that to someone she trusts, who can cover her if necessary; the way she behaves, she has already gone much further in her fatasy and now she believes she has found someone with Sophia to implement these fantasies.
She will step on the brakes, but only when Sophia begins to destroy her own life and but only if Sophia succumbs to temptations that were not initiated by Patricia.

Based on what we have seen so far I think that Patricia is a total flirt and shameless tease, but nothing that could break her agreement with Carl. But you are right - it is early days - we have somewhere close to 55-60% of the story still left to tell, so who knows what Patricia's future intentions are.

 

[Old Dog]

Maybe the dev should change the name from "A wife and Mother" to "Fatal Vows",could prove interesting.

 

[armion82]

Despite how good it looks we know it will still be in rpgm anyway.

I wonder if a time will come when we will have cinematic caliber porn games like Life is Strange/Detroit Become Human.

From the trailers it clearly shows the ability is there, with full voice acted dialogues and cinematic camer angles, just a matter of making it into an actual full fledged game and not just for trailers.

Then each update will take 2 months instead of 2 weeks.
Still the animations are way better than most games we have.Not to mention we see everything.Not like some games covering the penetration.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I'm holding out until I play this update before I declare that the game is a boondoggle. I'm really trying hard not to prejudge this update because that feels really crappy to both L&P and to the other posters here who are less disgruntled than I am. I will admit that I can't really envision a scenario where I do a 180 on this update and think the five month wait was justified; but I do want to try my best to be fair.

Hey there, I love every update and enjoy every frame, I think that's true of most all of us on this thread. If none of my saves hit all the content I rip the script files and jump to events that I've missed, because it's all so wonderful.

Like you, I just can't see the content of the events in this update paying off at a level that will offset the length of development. Hope to be wrong but not expecting to be.

 

[Talcum Powder]

This has been covered extensively here. In short, L&P's stated reason is this: He's "open" to the idea but the standards by which he would measure anyone are impossibly high. L&P is convinced that the time it would take to either train the person and/or to tweak the images to his standards would negate any benefits. Basically, L&P wants full control over the game's development and he hasn't figured out a way to outsource anything. It's a complete dead end at this point to even suggest outside help, he isn't interested.

Yes - as much as L&P pretends the possibility for help is real, if you can't out-sprint Usain Bolt in his prime you're just not fast enough and never will be.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Let me disagree with you. I spoke with L&P and I dare say that he is interested in helping. But the fact is that those willing to help are really not qualified enough.
The question of keeping the script secret, as far as I was able to understand, is in second place for him. First, the task is to find competent help and then they will find ways to solve the issue of secrecy.

Sorry, I'm not buying that. The problem is the script doesn't exist until after the renders are done. If the script was locked down first (that is, there was an actual plan for the update) it would be impossible to overshoot the anticipated render count by 100%+.

 

[Old Dog]

Sorry, I'm not buying that. The problem is the script doesn't exist until after the renders are done. If the script was locked down first (that is, there was an actual plan for the update) it would be impossible to overshoot the anticipated render count by 100%+.

I would say that the dev does has a kind of script written out ,maybe something like a rough draft of the game already laid out.
He did introduce the "Twist" sooner than it was supposed it to be introduced so he could have a rough script laid out and this could also explain why his render count goes overboard.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Please, you lucky guys, give me the answer to the most important question: what was in Sophia's bag and did she really manage to fit everything in it?

The only thing she couldn't fit was the

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

I would say that the dev does has a kind of script written out ,maybe something like a rough draft of the game already laid out.
He did introduce the "Twist" sooner than it was supposed it to be introduced so he could have a rough script laid out and this could also explain why his render count goes overboard.

I would say it's more in an outline form.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

sam is a slimy guy.

I have always preferred Sam to Dylan. He is neighbor kid who could easily fall for gorgeous Sophia. HOWEVER, apparently Sam is a bit of a philandering dirt bag who is not remaining faithful to Sophia or Ellie. AND it is his actions with (Though gorgeous in her own if ignoring the non OEM topside) Celia from Milfy City. That psycho broad was caught by none other than Mattocean "in flagrante delecto" with SAM. OH the horror! Liam, Neil, Sam, Dylan, Aiden, Bennett, Morello Tyler, and callous Carl all fall short of any moral claim to our wonderful Sophia. They must be expunged in fire and brimstone! Though a swift kick to the nads may be sufficient. Just Sayin'

A huge shout out to Mattocean for the truly epic investigative photo journalism. The reference is page 175 of Milfy City fan art. Have fun storming the castle.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I have always preferred Sam to Dylan. He is neighbor kid who could easily fall for gorgeous Sophia. HOWEVER, apparently Sam is a bit of a philandering dirt bag who is not remaining faithful to Sophia or Ellie. AND it is his actions with (Though gorgeous in her own if ignoring the non OEM topside) Celia from Milfy City. That psycho broad was caught by none other than Mattocean "in flagrante delecto" with SAM. OH the horror! Liam, Neil, Sam, Dylan, Aiden, Bennett, Morello Tyler, and callous Carl all fall short of any moral claim to our wonderful Sophia. They must be expunged in fire and brimstone! Though a swift kick to the nads may be sufficient. Just Sayin'

A huge shout out to Mattocean for the truly epic investigative photo journalism. The reference is page 175 of Milfy City fan art. Have fun storming the castle.

Carl is callous? He's pivotal in helping Sophia with Aiden. If he was callous he wouldn't be helping, and Sophia would need to do the tasks.

But if we're weighing in, I stop both the Sam and Dylan routes at the basketball match. I prefer Ellie over both. Curious what's she's up to during this update.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I would say that the dev does has a kind of script written out ,maybe something like a rough draft of the game already laid out.
He did introduce the "Twist" sooner than it was supposed it to be introduced so he could have a rough script laid out and this could also explain why his render count goes overboard.

No doubt L&P has the A to B outline, but his outline is equivalent to an aerial photograph taken from high-earth orbit where you can barely make out the highways. The problem is, when he's making his scenes he's on local streets and there's no route optimizer (Google Maps, Apple Maps, Yahoo Maps, take your pick: I'm not prejudiced!) showing him how to avoid all the traffic delays.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Carl is callous? He's pivotal in helping Sophia with Aiden. If he was callous he wouldn't be helping, and Sophia would need to do the tasks.

But if we're weighing in, I stop both the Sam and Dylan routes at the basketball match. I prefer Ellie over both. Curious what's she's up to during this update.

Alley you can't be serious. "Oh the horror." I feel like I stole a Batman (TV show) line. I used the callous Carl since it made a nice ending to the list. OK, are you doing sarcastic dry humor or did you miss the intent of my post which is meant to help all have some humor while waiting for the update. I mean seriously "fire and brimstone", "nads", "investigative photojournalism".

I would not trust anything any journalist exposed now (unless it was their nether regions) since they have almost all become members of Pravda circa 1979. It is time for some chill pills. Ah, there is my bottle.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Alley you can't be serious. "Oh the horror." I feel like a stole a Batman (TV show) line. I used the callous Carl since it made a nice ending to the list. OK, are you doing sarcastic dry humor or did you miss the intent of my post which is meant to help all have some humor while waiting for the update. I mean seriously "fire and brimstone", "nads", "investigative photojournalism".

I would not trust anything any journalist exposed now (unless it was their nether regions) since they have almost all become members of Pravda circa 1979. It is time for some chill pills. Ah, there is my bottle.

I have chill pills, thank you. Already taken them. I get that sometimes people add humour, and I do try not to be a wet blanket - I was quiet the entire time people were making outrageous claims about the content of the .130 pre-release.

I guess I'm just being protective since Carl and Patricia (at least in my playthrough) play an integral role in both corrupting Sophia, but providing a safe and supportive environment. And Carl pivotal in protecting Dylan from Aiden. Getting rid of him would also have a devastating effect on Patricia.

And of course with Carl paying for Dylan to be at boarding school we might get Ellie nude sunbathing. He has to get points for that.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

No doubt L&P has the A to B outline, but his outline is equivalent to an aerial photograph taken from high-earth orbit where you can barely make out the highways. The problem is, when he's making his scenes he's on local streets and there's no route optimizer (Google Maps, Apple Maps, Yahoo Maps, take your pick: I'm not prejudiced!) showing him how to avoid all the traffic delays.

that's pretty clear

 

[Death_dark]

Everyone's interested in Dylan. So it would be redundant in this forum to say it again.

It might be a very small percent.
But everyone is not gay. Not everyone gets off with the thought of pre-pubescent boys.
Not everyone is a cuck who like to see beautiful women fucked by little boys, old men, or any kind of sausage fest.

Sophia and her daughter Ellie is where I am at..

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report.

100% - 100%
70%

 

[Bane71]

Sorry, I'm not buying that. The problem is the script doesn't exist until after the renders are done. If the script was locked down first (that is, there was an actual plan for the update) it would be impossible to overshoot the anticipated render count by 100%+.

I do not insist on my opinion, I just express it.
Unlike others, I can easily imagine that the preliminary expected number of renders for displaying a single, already described story plot is an order of magnitude different from the real one.
Therefore, I believe in L&P.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Here's a story.
Guy starts making story.
Guy knows how it ends.
Guy has the events thought out only for the next playable day and changes it as he goes.
People didn't like a certain twist? No problem, the script isn't written, guy just removes the twist.
Guy has only some sort of outline until the story ends with MC getting passed like a bycicle.

Guy needs a translator? Sure.
Can the translator have the script beforehand? Nah.
Why can't he? Because there's no script lol. Hence why the translator needs to be 12h for a few days with the Guy. Because that's when the story is being written.
The truth is usually the simplest explanation.


Bane71 your opinion was that a render farm wouldn't have the same quality as L&P rendering. Can you elaborate that opinion and explain how having an iray farm rendering your renders or rendering them yourself has any difference. Thanks.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I think he probably has a little more than just the beginning and ending, but not much more. I imagine the typical outline for a character is something like this:

1. Background/Establishment
2. Major Event 1
3. Major Event 2
4. Major Event 3
5. Conflict
6. Resolution of Conflict
7. End

That sort of outline isn't bad, but it's not nearly sufficient enough. I'm sure that he has some ideas jotted down for each step, but nothing in great detail. And as anyone who has ever written any sort of fiction knows, the devil is in the details. Not only is he struggling with keeping to a plan (probably because his outline isn't detailed enough), but I also suspect that he doesn't have any notes regarding the connective tissue that links each scene together. Not every scene with a character is a major event, but every scene needs to advance the story- and he's having trouble with that. That's ok, writing is hard and there's no shame in that. What's killing him is that he doesn't seem to be making any changes to compensate for it.