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i'm probably against the idea of polishing DOL, made graphics enchantment until the main game AWAM got Finished, the more dev put an effort to Censored version of awam we will Wait much longer when it comes to a update to the main game
Converting AWAM to DoL isn't the bottleneck and never will be. The only bottleneck is CS. The only way to significantly speed up updates is if L&P sticks to a plan. If he had stuck to the original 450 odd renders, we would have had the update months ago.

It isn't difficult in the slightest (I did it for Free Pass) to write the code so that the only difference between AWAM and DoL would be a block of around 10 lines of code. L&P just happened to choose the most inefficient way of making the two versions.
 
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Where L&P's AWAM is hideously slow in terms of updates, Decent Monkey's Fashion Business is a grindfest. I played Chapter 1 but never made it through Ch.2. Even if Sophia & Monica inhabit the same universe, the styles & approaches to gameplay are not compatible. Somewhere in the fan art there was a crossover where both MC's bumped (literally) into each other. That's as far as things will ever go IMO.

Both games have more positives than negatives but the negatives are big. Strangely, although I'm certain it's not the intention, both games punish the players but in different ways. I wish they wouldn't do that.....
Ditto. Having suffered the Foot of the Mountain grind I was easily burned out by Fashion Business. Timing is everything! DOH! I said it out loud.
 
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Alright so below is the ideas post I made awhile

So I now have a good wife save where I select nothing but good wife options and deny everyone, I was so bored creating this save lol

Working on a filthy save but no lesbian decisions, curious to see the difference between a "filthy + no lesbian route" and "filthy everything save"

I think I forgot some ideas I came up with in here but do remember the following. I updated some ideas and added new ideas.

1) Dylan birthday party where Sophia brings the cake out and her top pops open, exposing her breasts to everyone at the party but because she is carrying the cake, she can't cover up.

2) Underwear show with Dylan and Sam (maybe Zach as well), same as Bikini show but underwear they bought Sophia. The 2nd last option is basically a one-piece but super thing black underwear that just covers Sophia's nipples. Dylan always gives Sophia the underwear in a bag but in the final bag is a piece of paper with "birthday suit" written on it.

3) *new* Ellie has Julia stay over one night and in the morning, Sophia + Ellie + Julia shower together, this happens 2 to 3 times before it reaches a 3some.

4) Sophia uses her body to teach the boys about the birds and the bees, something they already know and they threaten to tell their mother, so they try to blackmail Sophia but she knows she can easily deny it and probably be fine. However, out of curiosity she plays along and ends up doing things that Sophia actually want to do anyway. I don't think this escalates to a 3 on 1 sex scene but more showing and ends with blowjobs maybe.

5) *new* After teaching the boys about the birds and the bees by using her own body, Sophia gets caught by their mother (Ava?) and ends up having 1 on 1 sex with the mother dominating Sophia.

6) *update* Sophia showers after coaching and a group of guys from the football team spies on her, she catches them without them knowing but lets them watch. Maybe Janitor interrupts thinking he helping Sophia but only if she showered at school early in-game and you let him watch while he jerks off.

7) *new* Sophia tries Anthony again with Alyssa watching but Zach catches them as he wonders what the noise is, it leads to Zach massaging Sophia and it escalating into more. Eventually, it builds to a 3some and along the way, Zach joins in with Dylan and Sam events, like the aforementioned underwear show.

8) *new* Dylan catches Sophia and Ellie showering which leads to Dylan showering with Sophia, also vice-versa, Ellie catches Dylan showering with Sophia and leads to the 3 of them showering together.

9) *new* Sophia catches the maid again but decides to join in with her, eventually, this leads to Ellie catching them and joining in. Maybe it eventually includes a Sophia, Maid, Julia and Ellie scene

10) Aiden task where Sophia has to do same as showing panties task but this time no underwear.

Most of these ideas are probably never going to happen but I like to come up with ideas, never know, L&P might read and incorporate some.
Below is a long post with all of Aiden 12 tasks that I would personally do and suggest for L&P, yet again, these are very unlikely to happen as L&P going to do what L&P going to do. However, while you wait for the next update, enjoy.

Aiden Tasks
  1. Don't wear a bra and show she isn't to the whole class
  2. Wear a sexy dress and showed her panties to Aiden, then full class
  3. Looks like it is wearing a sexy catsuit in public somewhere, not a fan of this but maybe it be better than I think. However, I do think Sophia potentially stands up for herself and makes it clear she never do any tasks like that in public again. Also, Aiden is smart enough to know not to push it and therefore keeps it in class.
  4. Sophia is instructed to wear a top as she wore in task 1 but a sexy skirt as short as dress in task 2. Also, she is not to wear any bra or panties. Just like task 2, Aiden calls her back to class and she lifts her skirt up to prove she not wearing panties. Aiden gives her 2nd task, which is basically the first 2 tasks combined, she unbuttons the top and pretend she warm and sits on the desk, then uncrosses her legs showing everyone in class she not wearing any panties. However this time, she keeps her legs uncrossed as she really enjoys it and gets lost in the looks she is enjoying getting, then snaps out and crosses her legs again.
  5. Aiden tells Sophia for next class to wear no bra but to wear whatever top or bottom she wants, she can even wear panties. He let her know what the task is in class, eventually during class Aiden stands up and goes to the front of the class and talks with Sophia in front of the whole class. This is where Sophia learns that her whole class knows about the tasks Aiden making her do, but Aiden threatened them into silence and they know of his Uncle, Aiden told them as he had to make sure no one says anything to the teachers or the principal. We also learn that Aiden had Emma and other students transferred and new students transferred back. After this, Aiden tells Sophia her task, show her boobs to all in class.
  6. At this point, the class has seen Sophia's boobs and pussy, now it's time for things to escalate more as we at a halfway point in tasks. This is where Aiden pushes Sophia more and it's actually one of the biggest tasks, if Sophia does this, then we reach task 12, if not, we don't, so big choice decision here. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear a sexy dress with no bra and panties, he tells her in class to sit on the desk, hike her dress up and masturbate with class watching. Sophia is initially worried about being caught but Aiden reminds her that the principal doesn't care about classes, other teachers are in their class and no one will disturb a teacher during an active class unless there is an emergency, which Sophia knows is true.
  7. If Sophia does task 6, then it's a simple escalation from here. Aiden tells her to dress how she wants, he approaches the front of the class and tells Sophia to give him a blow-job in front of the whole class. At this point, Sophia is doing task more out of enjoyment and excitement of what she has to do next, then protecting Dylan, Zach and other students.
  8. Aiden instructs Sophia to arrange a day trip for class to somewhere different for class to be held, it's a location where privacy is a guarantee and Aiden instructs Sophia to hold the class in the nude. Local museum maybe? Might be a better idea to be a day trip to a swimming pool where Sophia has to wear a revealing bikini and gets nude at a private part of the pool that Aiden's Uncle owns. The museum would coincide with the 2 guys Sophia and Patricia arrange to go to the museum with.
  9. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear the normal sexy dress with no bra and panties, this time he bends her over the table, so she facing the class and he fucks her while her boobs are out.
  10. Aiden learns that the guys on the team have been trying to spy on Sophia when she showers after sports practice/class, Sophia always locks the door to the room. Aiden tells her to keep the door unlocked and to put on a show where she masturbates for them. Sophia is unaware but Aiden gets financially paid to do this.
  11. Aiden fucks Sophia in class again but this time it's in front of the desk but Sophia still bent over, and his friend who sits next to him fucks Sophia's mouth. Spit-roast.
  12. Another school trip but either it's a camping trip or a trip that ends up with the class at Sophia's home. I don't know how to finish these tasks for sure, I don't think Aiden should push Sophia into letting everyone in the class fuck her but that could be an ending point, but it does need to be a big sexual event to end with. However, I think it's more likely Sophia has to give everyone in the class a blowjob or go down on every woman in class that wants one, but it could just be a 3some with Aiden and his friend + Sophia in a tent or in Sophia's bed.
 

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Alright so below is the ideas post I made awhile



Below is a long post with all of Aiden 12 tasks that I would personally do and suggest for L&P, yet again, these are very unlikely to happen as L&P going to do what L&P going to do. However, while you wait for the next update, enjoy.

Aiden Tasks
  1. Don't wear a bra and show she isn't to the whole class
  2. Wear a sexy dress and showed her panties to Aiden, then full class
  3. Looks like it is wearing a sexy catsuit in public somewhere, not a fan of this but maybe it be better than I think. However, I do think Sophia potentially stands up for herself and makes it clear she never do any tasks like that in public again. Also, Aiden is smart enough to know not to push it and therefore keeps it in class.
  4. Sophia is instructed to wear a top as she wore in task 1 but a sexy skirt as short as dress in task 2. Also, she is not to wear any bra or panties. Just like task 2, Aiden calls her back to class and she lifts her skirt up to prove she not wearing panties. Aiden gives her 2nd task, which is basically the first 2 tasks combined, she unbuttons the top and pretend she warm and sits on the desk, then uncrosses her legs showing everyone in class she not wearing any panties. However this time, she keeps her legs uncrossed as she really enjoys it and gets lost in the looks she is enjoying getting, then snaps out and crosses her legs again.
  5. Aiden tells Sophia for next class to wear no bra but to wear whatever top or bottom she wants, she can even wear panties. He let her know what the task is in class, eventually during class Aiden stands up and goes to the front of the class and talks with Sophia in front of the whole class. This is where Sophia learns that her whole class knows about the tasks Aiden making her do, but Aiden threatened them into silence and they know of his Uncle, Aiden told them as he had to make sure no one says anything to the teachers or the principal. We also learn that Aiden had Emma and other students transferred and new students transferred back. After this, Aiden tells Sophia her task, show her boobs to all in class.
  6. At this point, the class has seen Sophia's boobs and pussy, now it's time for things to escalate more as we at a halfway point in tasks. This is where Aiden pushes Sophia more and it's actually one of the biggest tasks, if Sophia does this, then we reach task 12, if not, we don't, so big choice decision here. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear a sexy dress with no bra and panties, he tells her in class to sit on the desk, hike her dress up and masturbate with class watching. Sophia is initially worried about being caught but Aiden reminds her that the principal doesn't care about classes, other teachers are in their class and no one will disturb a teacher during an active class unless there is an emergency, which Sophia knows is true.
  7. If Sophia does task 6, then it's a simple escalation from here. Aiden tells her to dress how she wants, he approaches the front of the class and tells Sophia to give him a blow-job in front of the whole class. At this point, Sophia is doing task more out of enjoyment and excitement of what she has to do next, then protecting Dylan, Zach and other students.
  8. Aiden instructs Sophia to arrange a day trip for class to somewhere different for class to be held, it's a location where privacy is a guarantee and Aiden instructs Sophia to hold the class in the nude. Local museum maybe? Might be a better idea to be a day trip to a swimming pool where Sophia has to wear a revealing bikini and gets nude at a private part of the pool that Aiden's Uncle owns. The museum would coincide with the 2 guys Sophia and Patricia arrange to go to the museum with.
  9. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear the normal sexy dress with no bra and panties, this time he bends her over the table, so she facing the class and he fucks her while her boobs are out.
  10. Aiden learns that the guys on the team have been trying to spy on Sophia when she showers after sports practice/class, Sophia always locks the door to the room. Aiden tells her to keep the door unlocked and to put on a show where she masturbates for them. Sophia is unaware but Aiden gets financially paid to do this.
  11. Aiden fucks Sophia in class again but this time it's in front of the desk but Sophia still bent over, and his friend who sits next to him fucks Sophia's mouth. Spit-roast.
  12. Another school trip but either it's a camping trip or a trip that ends up with the class at Sophia's home. I don't know how to finish these tasks for sure, I don't think Aiden should push Sophia into letting everyone in the class fuck her but that could be an ending point, but it does need to be a big sexual event to end with. However, I think it's more likely Sophia has to give everyone in the class a blowjob or go down on every woman in class that wants one, but it could just be a 3some with Aiden and his friend + Sophia in a tent or in Sophia's bed.
Errr .. Nice tasks but far too daring for an Erotic Novel.
Vulgarity, I don't think L&P likes it. Well, not in the sense that most of us see it.

This is an erotic VN not Porn. I doubt there are scenes like this.

But for the common people, nice tasks :)
 

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Nice art style but personally I do find the story to be shallow.
Very hot female teacher in a new city with extra slutty sister and her extra rich husband starts teaching part time in a new school and is bound to get in trouble with a gang, a world class lawyer and the mafia roughly around the same time.
... Yeah ...
Plus there is only one person being at fault for the massive debts of liam and that person goes by the name of sophia.
She made several really big mistakes on that matter alone. Starting by allowing a known gambling addict the casino visit to begin with, continuing with telling an addict basically to stop being addicted and ending by leaving said addict at a place where he can go about his addiction without supervision ...
What exactly did she think would happen?

That and ignoring the very obvious telltale signs of adultery by her husband (hot female coworkers, working late every day, no sexual action at home - not even interested, ...)

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game. Somewhat.
But for an allegedly very intelligent woman in her late 30's she comes off as being dumb as a board and naive to boot.
I totally disagree on the "there is only one person being at fault for the massive debts of liam and that person goes by the name of sophia". Been to Vegas too many times and seen too many fools blow money they don't have. They would not take supervision even if it was there. They just kept manuevering to get the "thrill". Their wives were not the issue. Their buddies were not the issue. It was their decision to "roll the dice one more time". It was Liam's decision. He is supposed to be bright enough to become CEO of a company. He should have seen his own issue and dealt with it before they got there. Is he so stupid he cannot do math?

Standard left pocket right pocket rule. I put 100 bucks in left pocket. That is all I play. (or play with for ya'll gettin dirty minded) If it goes away fast I am done and go to the comedy club. I never touch the wallet in a casino. Liam is the loser! And the fact the Dev wanted this path possible.

Yes gambling can be an addiction. But here Liam and Sophia are aware so why does Liam fail to plan? Not CEO material. Sophia even warns him. You may have hit the nail however "ignoring the very obvious telltale signs of adultery by her husband (hot female coworkers, working late every day, no sexual action at home - not even interested, ." I don't think Liam is invested in the family. Even in the GW he needs to be prodded into action by Sophia. Seriously, he is ignoring this hottie. His boat has sailed. It was his decision and there may be more behind it then addiction. As always IMO.
 

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Passing different routes in this game, from time to time I come across the underdeveloped potential of some scenes.
Does anyone else have this feeling?
So much... My first thought is the "Beach cabin Scene":
- Dylan please aim to the tow...
- Too late, big cumshot on Sophia's partially exposed pussy and thighs
- Sophia gets angry
- Dylan falls on his buttocks and takes his head in his hands ... "not my fault" ... " so sorry" ... blah blah blah
- Sophia leaves the cabin
- Dylan raises his head with a slight smile ("so hot")
- Later Sophia softens ("not his fault", "he looks so sorry", blah blah blah)

Maybe some will find that too much but IMO it was easy to justify and ... so fucking hot...
 
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Alright so below is the ideas post I made awhile



Below is a long post with all of Aiden 12 tasks that I would personally do and suggest for L&P, yet again, these are very unlikely to happen as L&P going to do what L&P going to do. However, while you wait for the next update, enjoy.

Aiden Tasks
  1. Don't wear a bra and show she isn't to the whole class
  2. Wear a sexy dress and showed her panties to Aiden, then full class
  3. Looks like it is wearing a sexy catsuit in public somewhere, not a fan of this but maybe it be better than I think. However, I do think Sophia potentially stands up for herself and makes it clear she never do any tasks like that in public again. Also, Aiden is smart enough to know not to push it and therefore keeps it in class.
  4. Sophia is instructed to wear a top as she wore in task 1 but a sexy skirt as short as dress in task 2. Also, she is not to wear any bra or panties. Just like task 2, Aiden calls her back to class and she lifts her skirt up to prove she not wearing panties. Aiden gives her 2nd task, which is basically the first 2 tasks combined, she unbuttons the top and pretend she warm and sits on the desk, then uncrosses her legs showing everyone in class she not wearing any panties. However this time, she keeps her legs uncrossed as she really enjoys it and gets lost in the looks she is enjoying getting, then snaps out and crosses her legs again.
  5. Aiden tells Sophia for next class to wear no bra but to wear whatever top or bottom she wants, she can even wear panties. He let her know what the task is in class, eventually during class Aiden stands up and goes to the front of the class and talks with Sophia in front of the whole class. This is where Sophia learns that her whole class knows about the tasks Aiden making her do, but Aiden threatened them into silence and they know of his Uncle, Aiden told them as he had to make sure no one says anything to the teachers or the principal. We also learn that Aiden had Emma and other students transferred and new students transferred back. After this, Aiden tells Sophia her task, show her boobs to all in class.
  6. At this point, the class has seen Sophia's boobs and pussy, now it's time for things to escalate more as we at a halfway point in tasks. This is where Aiden pushes Sophia more and it's actually one of the biggest tasks, if Sophia does this, then we reach task 12, if not, we don't, so big choice decision here. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear a sexy dress with no bra and panties, he tells her in class to sit on the desk, hike her dress up and masturbate with class watching. Sophia is initially worried about being caught but Aiden reminds her that the principal doesn't care about classes, other teachers are in their class and no one will disturb a teacher during an active class unless there is an emergency, which Sophia knows is true.
  7. If Sophia does task 6, then it's a simple escalation from here. Aiden tells her to dress how she wants, he approaches the front of the class and tells Sophia to give him a blow-job in front of the whole class. At this point, Sophia is doing task more out of enjoyment and excitement of what she has to do next, then protecting Dylan, Zach and other students.
  8. Aiden instructs Sophia to arrange a day trip for class to somewhere different for class to be held, it's a location where privacy is a guarantee and Aiden instructs Sophia to hold the class in the nude. Local museum maybe? Might be a better idea to be a day trip to a swimming pool where Sophia has to wear a revealing bikini and gets nude at a private part of the pool that Aiden's Uncle owns. The museum would coincide with the 2 guys Sophia and Patricia arrange to go to the museum with.
  9. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear the normal sexy dress with no bra and panties, this time he bends her over the table, so she facing the class and he fucks her while her boobs are out.
  10. Aiden learns that the guys on the team have been trying to spy on Sophia when she showers after sports practice/class, Sophia always locks the door to the room. Aiden tells her to keep the door unlocked and to put on a show where she masturbates for them. Sophia is unaware but Aiden gets financially paid to do this.
  11. Aiden fucks Sophia in class again but this time it's in front of the desk but Sophia still bent over, and his friend who sits next to him fucks Sophia's mouth. Spit-roast.
  12. Another school trip but either it's a camping trip or a trip that ends up with the class at Sophia's home. I don't know how to finish these tasks for sure, I don't think Aiden should push Sophia into letting everyone in the class fuck her but that could be an ending point, but it does need to be a big sexual event to end with. However, I think it's more likely Sophia has to give everyone in the class a blowjob or go down on every woman in class that wants one, but it could just be a 3some with Aiden and his friend + Sophia in a tent or in Sophia's bed.
Personally, I think Sophia can go quite far in the erotic and porn sense, but it won't be overtly vulgar. She will come to practically depraved actions gently through eroticism and sensuality, somewhere showing weakness, and somewhere giving in to her deepest desires.
 
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I totally disagree on the "there is only one person being at fault for the massive debts of liam and that person goes by the name of sophia". Been to Vegas too many times and seen too many fools blow money they don't have. They would not take supervision even if it was there. They just kept manuevering to get the "thrill". Their wives were not the issue. Their buddies were not the issue. It was their decision to "roll the dice one more time". It was Liam's decision. He is supposed to be bright enough to become CEO of a company. He should have seen his own issue and dealt with it before they got there. Is he so stupid he cannot do math?

Standard left pocket right pocket rule. I put 100 bucks in left pocket. That is all I play. (or play with for ya'll gettin dirty minded) If it goes away fast I am done and go to the comedy club. I never touch the wallet in a casino. Liam is the loser! And the fact the Dev wanted this path possible.

Yes gambling can be an addiction. But here Liam and Sophia are aware so why does Liam fail to plan? Not CEO material. Sophia even warns him. You may have hit the nail however "ignoring the very obvious telltale signs of adultery by her husband (hot female coworkers, working late every day, no sexual action at home - not even interested, ." I don't think Liam is invested in the family. Even in the GW he needs to be prodded into action by Sophia. Seriously, he is ignoring this hottie. His boat has sailed. It was his decision and there may be more behind it then addiction. As always IMO.
So you blame the addict for being addicted?

That is the easy explanation but hardly a correct one.
Substitute "gambling" with "taking heroin" or "taking meth".
Can they do anything about it themselves?
Only when the moon lines up with Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury while standing in the blood of a virgin and reading a prophecy in arameic. Backwards. I.e. it is extremely hard.
A gambling addiction is just as hard to overcome. Especially without help.
So yes. Sophia should have done something about it.
Denying the evening in the casino would have been the obvious choice but she didn't. She went with him.
Failing that she could have contacted the casino owner/security and made sure Liam is denied a debt.

Ergo it is her fault. The intelligent woman did nothing intelligent and in fact something extremely stupid. Leaving an addict alone in the addictive environment.
 

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So you blame the addict for being addicted?

That is the easy explanation but hardly a correct one.
Substitute "gambling" with "taking heroin" or "taking meth".
Can they do anything about it themselves?
Only when the moon lines up with Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury while standing in the blood of a virgin and reading a prophecy in arameic. Backwards. I.e. it is extremely hard.
A gambling addiction is just as hard to overcome. Especially without help.
So yes. Sophia should have done something about it.
Denying the evening in the casino would have been the obvious choice but she didn't. She went with him.
Failing that she could have contacted the casino owner/security and made sure Liam is denied a debt.

Ergo it is her fault. The intelligent woman did nothing intelligent and in fact something extremely stupid. Leaving an addict alone in the addictive environment.
Assuming that meeting the Morellos is required for the comfortable solution to the Aiden and Bennett blackmails, how would you have written the plot?
 

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Assuming that meeting the Morellos is required for the comfortable solution to the Aiden and Bennett blackmails, how would you have written the plot?
I think Mr morello plot is more darker than aiden and mr bennet blackmail, i think mr bennet blackmail route only occurs one time he already said that if he can get laid with sophia he would revised dylan score to A+ or perhaps he secretly make a secret sex tape to make another blackmail who knows

Imagine you deal with a Mafia that owns San Allejo, every deal with the mafia always have consequences remember when larry asking sophia if she like wild sex and sex in public maybe he already have a plan to make sophia his slut, making sophia addicted to drugs, threaten her whole family
 

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Assuming that meeting the Morellos is required for the comfortable solution to the Aiden and Bennett blackmails, how would you have written the plot?
Certainly in another way than to have the highschool teacher and former college lecturer from an academic family doing something utterly stupid like purposefully neglecting a potentially harmful situation.
Something like Liam getting robbed in the streets and is forced to write a lien on their house.
Or him getting scammed at work by his boss. Not totally unbelievable ...
You know something that is entirely not her fault but she'd have to help fix it.
THIS situation actually IS her fault as said.
 
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So you blame the addict for being addicted?

That is the easy explanation but hardly a correct one.
Substitute "gambling" with "taking heroin" or "taking meth".
Can they do anything about it themselves?
Only when the moon lines up with Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury while standing in the blood of a virgin and reading a prophecy in arameic. Backwards. I.e. it is extremely hard.
A gambling addiction is just as hard to overcome. Especially without help.
So yes. Sophia should have done something about it.
Denying the evening in the casino would have been the obvious choice but she didn't. She went with him.
Failing that she could have contacted the casino owner/security and made sure Liam is denied a debt.

Ergo it is her fault. The intelligent woman did nothing intelligent and in fact something extremely stupid. Leaving an addict alone in the addictive environment.
A night out together was Liam's idea, and Liam also came up with the idea of going to the casino.
I think L&P could have introduced this theme, casino debt, without Sophia going into the casino, but the idea of collective guilt, Liam and Sophia, was more important.

But the most important line is the one where Sophia goes to the club with Patricia and Ellie. It's a way of highlighting Sophia's corruption.
Is that a realistic approach? Taking a gambling addict to the casino?
It is, as long as Sophia stays with Liam or the one where Sophia goes to the club. The club route is the clearest evidence that Sophia's corruption has increased.
It's a less realistic route, the one where Sophia waits at home for Liam.
 
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Alright so below is the ideas post I made awhile



Below is a long post with all of Aiden 12 tasks that I would personally do and suggest for L&P, yet again, these are very unlikely to happen as L&P going to do what L&P going to do. However, while you wait for the next update, enjoy.

Aiden Tasks
  1. Don't wear a bra and show she isn't to the whole class
  2. Wear a sexy dress and showed her panties to Aiden, then full class
  3. Looks like it is wearing a sexy catsuit in public somewhere, not a fan of this but maybe it be better than I think. However, I do think Sophia potentially stands up for herself and makes it clear she never do any tasks like that in public again. Also, Aiden is smart enough to know not to push it and therefore keeps it in class.
  4. Sophia is instructed to wear a top as she wore in task 1 but a sexy skirt as short as dress in task 2. Also, she is not to wear any bra or panties. Just like task 2, Aiden calls her back to class and she lifts her skirt up to prove she not wearing panties. Aiden gives her 2nd task, which is basically the first 2 tasks combined, she unbuttons the top and pretend she warm and sits on the desk, then uncrosses her legs showing everyone in class she not wearing any panties. However this time, she keeps her legs uncrossed as she really enjoys it and gets lost in the looks she is enjoying getting, then snaps out and crosses her legs again.
  5. Aiden tells Sophia for next class to wear no bra but to wear whatever top or bottom she wants, she can even wear panties. He let her know what the task is in class, eventually during class Aiden stands up and goes to the front of the class and talks with Sophia in front of the whole class. This is where Sophia learns that her whole class knows about the tasks Aiden making her do, but Aiden threatened them into silence and they know of his Uncle, Aiden told them as he had to make sure no one says anything to the teachers or the principal. We also learn that Aiden had Emma and other students transferred and new students transferred back. After this, Aiden tells Sophia her task, show her boobs to all in class.
  6. At this point, the class has seen Sophia's boobs and pussy, now it's time for things to escalate more as we at a halfway point in tasks. This is where Aiden pushes Sophia more and it's actually one of the biggest tasks, if Sophia does this, then we reach task 12, if not, we don't, so big choice decision here. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear a sexy dress with no bra and panties, he tells her in class to sit on the desk, hike her dress up and masturbate with class watching. Sophia is initially worried about being caught but Aiden reminds her that the principal doesn't care about classes, other teachers are in their class and no one will disturb a teacher during an active class unless there is an emergency, which Sophia knows is true.
  7. If Sophia does task 6, then it's a simple escalation from here. Aiden tells her to dress how she wants, he approaches the front of the class and tells Sophia to give him a blow-job in front of the whole class. At this point, Sophia is doing task more out of enjoyment and excitement of what she has to do next, then protecting Dylan, Zach and other students.
  8. Aiden instructs Sophia to arrange a day trip for class to somewhere different for class to be held, it's a location where privacy is a guarantee and Aiden instructs Sophia to hold the class in the nude. Local museum maybe? Might be a better idea to be a day trip to a swimming pool where Sophia has to wear a revealing bikini and gets nude at a private part of the pool that Aiden's Uncle owns. The museum would coincide with the 2 guys Sophia and Patricia arrange to go to the museum with.
  9. Aiden instructs Sophia to wear the normal sexy dress with no bra and panties, this time he bends her over the table, so she facing the class and he fucks her while her boobs are out.
  10. Aiden learns that the guys on the team have been trying to spy on Sophia when she showers after sports practice/class, Sophia always locks the door to the room. Aiden tells her to keep the door unlocked and to put on a show where she masturbates for them. Sophia is unaware but Aiden gets financially paid to do this.
  11. Aiden fucks Sophia in class again but this time it's in front of the desk but Sophia still bent over, and his friend who sits next to him fucks Sophia's mouth. Spit-roast.
  12. Another school trip but either it's a camping trip or a trip that ends up with the class at Sophia's home. I don't know how to finish these tasks for sure, I don't think Aiden should push Sophia into letting everyone in the class fuck her but that could be an ending point, but it does need to be a big sexual event to end with. However, I think it's more likely Sophia has to give everyone in the class a blowjob or go down on every woman in class that wants one, but it could just be a 3some with Aiden and his friend + Sophia in a tent or in Sophia's bed.
That's an imaginative set of tasks. Many games/VNs would have no problem with their content but this is AWAM & need I say more? Over-riding concerns I have include the pace we currently 'enjoy' which impacts everything in the whole story & specifically whether we'll ever progress to task 12 at all. As soon as the Mafia was introduced there was yet another problem with continuing the blackmail but beyond this there's the possibility of the game being abandoned.

Now, of course I don't want to see this so I think it's time there was a step change in virtually all the routes, relationships, tasks, side-jobs etc. Above all we need more eroticism on every front. I've defended the blackmail numerous times, citing the progress it has engendered, amongst other things. So, I'm waiting to see what happens this next update before saying much more.
 

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Nice art style but personally I do find the story to be shallow.
Very hot female teacher in a new city with extra slutty sister and her extra rich husband starts teaching part time in a new school and is bound to get in trouble with a gang, a world class lawyer and the mafia roughly around the same time.
... Yeah ...
Plus there is only one person being at fault for the massive debts of liam and that person goes by the name of sophia.
She made several really big mistakes on that matter alone. Starting by allowing a known gambling addict the casino visit to begin with, continuing with telling an addict basically to stop being addicted and ending by leaving said addict at a place where he can go about his addiction without supervision ...
What exactly did she think would happen?

That and ignoring the very obvious telltale signs of adultery by her husband (hot female coworkers, working late every day, no sexual action at home - not even interested, ...)

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game. Somewhat.
But for an allegedly very intelligent woman in her late 30's she comes off as being dumb as a board and naive to boot.
As been said already, you're expectations are perhaps a bit too high for the genre. Additionally, the author of this particular VN is way too ambitious with the scope of his story. As a solo developer he's got way too many moving pieces and way too many branching paths to give proper attention and development to characters and character arcs. It's inevitable that there will be plot holes, lapses in character consistency, and missed opportunities to provide essential details.
 
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