VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[bdo39]

when android ?

 

[Taker Fan]

I am the Rat

 

[Piat]

Internet community wins again!

 

[David9sk]

who is our hero ? immediately put a statue on his square!

 

[Piat]

nopy file cluster is over capacity LOL

 

[BhabhiLover]

front page

You are the RAT(MAN) !!!

 

[Bane71]

what does Bane71 think of all this?
mine is just a simple question

Hi. What exactly are you interested in?
To read all this nonsense and abominations that, unfortunately, they write here, I am not at all interested. I have a lot to do and I am not sitting at the computer waiting for an update. Yes, I would like it to come out faster, but all this rubbish, it's just some kind of nonsense of sick people.

 

[johanes]

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

That's quite harsh you know. I criticize, never complain. If he doesn't want to include sex quickly that is his prerogative(although the VN has been in development for 3 years so an argument could be made about the lack of sex as well).

Take Rebirth it has had quite a lot of updates, much more than this BS and has had 0 sex scenes and most people don't say anything bad about it. Because the story is focused, interesting and really engaging and always leaves you wanting more in a good way. This leaves you wanting more in a bad way.

L&P has been working on this update for 6 months now, and it has only 4 events in his "branching" story.
Frankly the story telling is unfocused, uninteresting and downright terrible. Character development is all over the place due to path progression.

Like seriously, if he were to introduce a new character right now, say an Ex of the MC and he put the moves on her she would be conflicted as fuck, even though she has made out with her sister, her daughter, her daughter's girlfriend, played with her daughter and her girlfriend and has let her son touch her and jerk off while staring at her ass and has gone over this process many times before, she would not do anything with her ex with whom she would have done things in the past already, because the path just got introduced and we have got to start from 0 and go through the same things we have seen over and over and over again.

That is just terrible writing. And yes he has the right to write terribly as have I to say that it's terrible.

While that may sound like a complaint it is not, it is constructive criticism.. I am now able to support more devs again and came back to check it out, but seeing this after 2 years and the shit he just pulled. No way am I giving him my money again.

There's an inherent conflict in his storytelling. He wants to tell a believable story of a good, straitlaced, woman's corruption. But it has to happen over (roughly) 30 days. Therein lies the original flaw of the story. How do you tell a believable story of corruption when the woman starts very sexually conservative (not a nun, but definitely conservative) and you only have 30 days to corrupt her? Oh, and you want this to be an incest story?

That kind of story would be hard for even a professional writer, and L&P is definitely an amateur. That isn't a criticism, it's just acknowledging the truth- it doesn't make him a bad guy. Story progression/pacing has been very uneven; when it's good it's really good, but for some characters/storylines there has been very little progression despite years of effort. Since we're now on day 12 (roughly into Act II) I do believe that the story is gaining some momentum, but man...it's taking a long time.

And that leads me to the elephant in the room- the development cycles. L&P is trying to tell a story of believable corruption, from a sexually conservative woman, over 30 days, which will lead to her cheating and/or engaging in incest, while releasing updates two or three times a year. That is a brutal combination. Each update needs to simultaneously move the story quickly to meet the 30 day deadline, while moving it slowly to maintain the image that a woman like Sophia wouldn't cheat overnight, all while releasing a 45 minutes of gameplay update ever 4+ months. The most professional writer in the world, with the best organization, would struggle to make this work.

 

[kingachu]

Android??

 

[Lustyboy1998]

Why you uploaded the previous version??????

 

[Kakato]

I'm the Ratman.

"
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub "

LMAO.

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[Jaq213]

Ok guys, I would like to say Happy Fapping and please do give some reviews

 

[Mellorino]

i'm fapping while thinking about rat simpson now

 

[Xlore]

Now I can proceed to play the game and not come back until next update, skipping all the crying about the update in the process.

 

[NextQuestion]

There are 993* images for anyone wondering.

 

[Sam watson]

is there a mac link?

 

[RyanAK47]

Man...The drama here's so fun to watch..

 

[yihman1]

what I understand in this porn indy games industry is that nothing is creative...we are talking about money...and nothing else...You,the creative one, are you going to tell to the people around you that you are creating a porn game? This is only a way to earn money without sweat. You work on caracters created by professional, you simply modify it just to match your taste..nothing more, the only creativity is in create a patreons page full of promising words ...only there we can found real creativity.

Alright, I'll decompress and make what you said more intelligible and then respond.

The porn indy game industry is nothing creative:

Mostly false. Sometimes tropes are overused, and occasionally you will see the same model in more than one game. However, a lot of creative energy goes into adult games.

We are talking money and nothing else: 99% of devs would be better off flipping burgers or setting up a lemonade stand if money is their primary objective. Most make very little money, and a lot spend more than they earn in time and rersources.

This is the only way to earn money without sweat:

With the exception of gumdrop nope. Fuck that guy.

You guys use premade models that you modify:

Yep, a lot of daz artists do that. It still takes a lot of effort and energy to get them looking right. If you don't believe me try to make 1 render yourself using daz. It is a skill, and an art. What about folks who do 2d art styles? There is no honey select or daz for 2d.

 

[XaGnard]

When 0.1115 was updated, L&P promised that the next update would be faster, but it took 6 months

Lets see who should I side with...

On the one side there is L&P a dev I respect who has been creating something that I enjoy playing for some years now that seems to be going through some shit.

On the other side there are a few hateful trolls that shit over everything for attention because they think they sound cool on the internet.

I think most people here are fans of this game and appreciate the quality L&P put into the images and story.

I also think that most people notice that L&P has really big weaknesses in project management and now more and more obviously also in PR.

I have also become a critic, although I would like to contribute to his porject again. That doesn't make me an enemy or even a troll, it just makes me someone with common sense.