VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Talcum Powder]

In my opinion, Doctor, you have hit exactly the target!
I think the same way, it is for this reason that in my fan story Dylan participates in an Internet project in which he earns bitcoins. Bitcoins are exactly the kind of resource that can bring big profits in a short period of time, almost like winning a lotorea.

But let's see what L&P has prepared for us, how it will tell us the story! Will it be interesting and plausible? But the most important intrigue, in my opinion, is that this should not be an ordinary cliche that is used by hundreds of other developers.

Quick question about Dylan's chances of successful bitcoin mining: You said "like winning a lotterea" [sic], which is apt as I understand mining bitcoin requires a lot of expensive hardware just to have a chance of success, and success is in no way guaranteed. Also, given the short supply of GPUs in the world and the inflationary pressure that has had on prices, if you can even get them at all, how do you anticipate a cash strapped child will acquire enough hardware to build a machine that's up to the task? Big if, followed by: Will he be able to get enough bitcoin in time to pay the debt?

 

[Bane71]

Quick question about Dylan's chances of successful bitcoin mining: You said "like winning a lotterea" [sic], which is apt as I understand mining bitcoin requires a lot of expensive hardware just to have a chance of success, and success is in no way guaranteed. Also, given the short supply of GPUs in the world and the inflationary pressure that has had on prices, if you can even get them at all, how do you anticipate a cash strapped child will acquire enough hardware to build a machine that's up to the task? Big if, followed by: Will he be able to get enough bitcoin in time to pay the debt?

Greetings, my friend!
A very correct and professional question, Talcum Powder!
It immediately becomes clear that you understand the issue and correctly understand the process of mining bitcoins! This is commendable, my friend.
But it's also absolutely clear that you haven't read my AWAM-based fan story.
(Here is the last part:

You must be registered to see the links

).
Otherwise, my friend, you would know that there is a project on the Internet in which you can really make a significant profit in bitcoins with little investment.
(Here at this link you can get acquainted with the project:

You must be registered to see the links

If suddenly you wish to participate in the project, I will be glad and grateful to you if for this you use my invitation number for registration: AA-004949.
Or you can simply look into the project using my referral link and register:

You must be registered to see the links

)
My friend, this is not an advertisement and I in no way insist on your participation in the project! But if you ask me, then I would recommend you to participate because this is not a scam or deception, but a truly active project and it works exactly as indicated on the site, without deception and any pitfalls.

Since it is difficult for any person to attract a large number of people to participate in such a project, in my fan story, in my idea, Dylan asks Sofia to model in front of the boys in order to encourage them to participate in the project. And the more the potential participant will contribute to the project, the more candid Sofia's outfit will be. Thus, with Sofia's help, Dylan will indeed be able to get the required amount quickly. Especially considering that bitcoin has risen in price a lot.

I believe we all understand that it will be very difficult for L&P to find any realistic opportunity for Dylan to solve their family's financial problems. Even taking into account Dylan's successes in football, we understand that any contract with Dylan is completely impossible at this stage. I just don't see any other options.

Probably L&P will choose some other solution for Dylan to conquer Sofia! But I find it difficult to imagine realistic scenarios for this.

 

[Bossk]

Loved the story so far, I played on the pure lesbian Ellie/Patricia route and while it took a while to get to the point where feelings were finally starting to be expressed, loved the pay off so far. the two pool make out scenes and the shower scenes were really well done, normally those scenes would be played off as quick lead in to the "good stuff" instead became the good stuff without the need for full on hardcore sex, those were both really nice scenes from a "romance" perspective.

Apologies ahead of time, this is going to be very TL : DR and contain a lot of trigger stuff for people who might be less accepting of LGBTQ stuff. But its pertaining to the lesbian content of the game, so you have been warned and im not going to engage with any trolls.

One note to the author. Id mention 1 thing that bugged me. and this is just constructive criticism from a non patreon whose opinion means nothing more or less than any other non patreon opinion, but maybe you are open to hearing it, so ill lay it out. Take it or leave it as you like.

Id suggest less of Ellie and Sophia declaring "Im not a lesbian" while they have their tongues down girls throats or being groped by the adorable "baby" lesbian next door and clearly enjoying it. Maybe this is planned as they both become more comfortable with their feelings for women, but let me just explain why for me personally it detracted a bit from the story. Or at least less of the being sure about it. Maybe turn it into a question instead of a declaration

I understand trying to keep the perspective of the two girls being bi, thats perfectly normal cause bi people exist. But for me at least, having them keep declaring "im not a lesbian, but I might be bi" over and over, while clearly being very lesbian, in the moment somehow feels like it comes off as setting up a hierarchy. Them being full lesbian would be "bad" so we will hedge our bets with the straight fans by declaring over and over mid girl kissing girl scene that Ellie and Sophia both still like the D and it kind of pulls me out of the immersion.

Inner voice perspective it becomes a bit repetitive and feels like hedging your bets. as I said, and not letting Sophia or Ellie commit to the lesbian route. It's a bit of a tease for those wanting to see a full lesbian route pay off "here are girls enjoying each other but DONT FORGET!!! they both like the cock!" Maybe this is planned to change down the road, I cant base my commentary on whats not written yet.

Outer voice perspective it feels like it would be very demoralizing and hurtful to Julia who has just came out of the closet and confessed life long secret loves/crushes for two, up till now, unattainable "straight" women. This also applies to Ellie in the case of Sophia and their feelings for each other. as even though she claims to like men, shes never been with one in "that way" because it never felt safe or right. which is clearly a possible jumping off point for her realizing she isnt as Bi as she thought. Having Sophia "reject" her feelings as somehow "wrong" or secondary even unintentionally (yes yes societal norms etc) would be damaging on multiple levels. This is of course said from a "how would similar situations play out in RL" perspective not a "this is how they react in game"

To hear Ellie or Sophia declaring over and over that what they feel for her is somehow outside the norm for them or confusing (even though it may be confusing for them) and that the love of her life and her lifelong #1 hot milf fantasy are just "experimenting" with their new feelings (also applies to Sophia/Ellie) would be rough for her. Even though pains are taken to reiterate that they have feelings for the women they are making out with. it would probably do some serious damage to a newly uncloseted "baby" lesbian girl like Julia who has spent her whole life being controlled by her overbearing father and only loving one person who has just now finally given her hope.

Especially when Sophia is clearly having a realization that she is attracted to women in a big way (she cant keep her eyes off Marie for example). Having penis being constantly injected into the conversation (no pun intended) between two women feels very much like a Bechdel Test fail. for example in the shower scene with Ellie they talk about Liam's dick and the Sauna-douche at least part of the time after they just spent several minutes making out and mutually masturbating.

Again I understand, your story to tell, just an opinion. also understand both women are meant to be bi so players can craft their own narrative, but its more of an issue of timing than content. Have no problem with both being bi. just feels a bit jarring to have them exploring their feelings for each other and feel the need to re-state that they love the D over and over. I get that you are probably not trying to write "the great lesbian romance" and its just one route. but maybe some insight is helpful.

Let me restate, Im playing this for the story more than for the sex, and ive enjoyed most of it so far. this is just one area that maybe could benefit from some constructive criticism. I am also just one of thousands of people playing and commenting and dont feel like I am entitled to tell you how to write your story, its just an opinion and I hope its taken in that spirit.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Prognosticator's Report

	Pct Complete	Factor	Pct of Update
Created Scenes	40%	55%	22.00%
Rendered Scenes	25%	25%	6.25%
Art edited with PS	15%	5%	0.75%
Programming & Translation	0%	15%	0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed			29.00%
Start Date			7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)			35
Bullshit Days Consumed so far			5
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)			31
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit			30
Estimated Completion Date			11/18/2021

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So looking at end of Nov now. Still US holiday season. If he can find some efficiencies he may make early Nov. Has he done the Sam event yet? Which many are concerned will eat up a lot of time for the new settings. I don't think he has so expect another uptick in time.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

not before christmas guys, not before christmas

 

[nexer]

Huh, so annoying, totally disappointed
As warm as the sea water is to leave the beach and ....

 

[Talcum Powder]

So looking at end of Nov now. Still US holiday season. If he can find some efficiencies he may make early Nov. Has he done the Sam event yet? Which many are concerned will eat up a lot of time for the new settings. I don't think he has so expect another uptick in time.

Definitely expect that projected completion date to push further and further into the future. The projection is overly simplistic on purpose, we only know roughly the percent of planned images that are set up and rendered, we have no idea of their complexity and how long it takes to put each one together.

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

not before christmas guys, not before christmas

i guess so

 

[juancka01]

If the problem is to generate money (and this is just a product of my crazy imagination and the desire to see a sexually unbridled Sophia) Dylan in his desire to see his mother with little or simply no clothes ... convinces Sophia to do it an ONLYFANS (I swear that for that I would pay to subscribe)

 

[Talcum Powder]

Greetings, my friend!
A very correct and professional question, Talcum Powder!
It immediately becomes clear that you understand the issue and correctly understand the process of mining bitcoins! This is commendable, my friend.
But it's also absolutely clear that you haven't read my AWAM-based fan story.
(Here is the last part:

You must be registered to see the links

).
[/QUOTE]
Hi Bane71, the fanfic is quite long and you're right, I haven't read it, I didn't even know if its existence. If you have a doc version of the whole thing I'd be happy to find some time to read through it, clicking through the various links in reverse order is less attractive to me.

To be honest, I don't understand much of anything about mining bitcoins, except that it's a huge capital investment to build a computer that can make it worth while. If you can get up and running with enough capacity then it can pay off, that's pretty clear.

Otherwise, my friend, you would know that there is a project on the Internet in which you can really make a significant profit in bitcoins with little investment.
(Here at this link you can get acquainted with the project:

You must be registered to see the links

If suddenly you wish to participate in the project, I will be glad and grateful to you if for this you use my invitation number for registration: AA-004949.

Bane71, this is a self-proclaimed multi-level marketing scheme. Multi-level-marketing is a market tested wording for pyramid scheme. How this is listed as a not-for-profit is quite beyond me. They rely on an ever increasing number of "donors" (subscribers? required fees? the system puts bitcoin directly in your wallet but also is able to withdraw and make payments directly from your bitcoin wallet? You have to grant them that permission? say that again slowly, please?) from which they skim than finding and distributing bitcoins to its members.

If it's really a long-term wealth building platform then why are their admins also the owners and admins for BitDonix, an earlier and almost identical set up that has seen its "donor" base growth rate slowing down?

Some recommended reading:

You must be registered to see the links

You must be registered to see the links

Ultimately, this looks like a very traditional and unoriginal get-rich-quick scam in structure, with the allure of bitcoin and easy money as bait. If it works for you, great, it's a free world, do as you please, but but this is a hard no for me.

I believe we all understand that it will be very difficult for L&P to find any realistic opportunity for Dylan to solve their family's financial problems. Even taking into account Dylan's successes in football, we understand that any contract with Dylan is completely impossible at this stage. I just don't see any other options.

Probably L&P will choose some other solution for Dylan to conquer Sofia! But I find it difficult to imagine realistic scenarios for this.

I completely agree, there is no way Dylan will be able to make a dent in what looks like hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, which is due in a matter of weeks. Other than eavesdropping or a careless off-hand remark I don't see how Dylan or Ellie would ever find out. I can't think of a compelling reason why Sophia or Liam would burden their kids with this info.

I genuinely think the debt is a bizarre storyline to have in this particular visual novel. Losing the house? Yeah, it does happen to people in real life, but in the context of this game that's going nuclear when it isn't necessary. Not only that, it's unoriginal and subverts Sophia's agency and is writing ones-self into a corner, one you can't get out of without introducing even more fantastical story elements (the rich brother in law can bail us out? teasing the don's brother will help? lame).

I think the FW route (if we consider it a direct opposite of the GW route) would be better served by Sophia getting fed up with Liam's lying about his trips to the casino and the amount of money he's losing. Maybe they have to give up their fancy cars and downgrade to mid-range domestic models, cut back on some extravagances and luxuries (fewer nights out, cheaper wine and liquor, cancel Liam's extended cable TV subscription, change to a more economical family cellular plan). Of course, this is all boring and banal, right? A bit too realistic, perhaps?

Conversely, the GW route would be better served by Sophia investing in Liam's treatment for his addiction, getting the kids involved (though that probably doesn't work if they are just tenants) being supportive and bringing him back into the family unit as a fully engaged parent and spouse.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hi Bane71, the fanfic is quite long and you're right, I haven't read it, I didn't even know if its existence. If you have a doc version of the whole thing I'd be happy to find some time to read through it, clicking through the various links in reverse order is less attractive to me.

To be honest, I don't understand much of anything about mining bitcoins, except that it's a huge capital investment to build a computer that can make it worth while. If you can get up and running with enough capacity then it can pay off, that's pretty clear.

Bane71, this is a self-proclaimed multi-level marketing scheme. Multi-level-marketing is a market tested wording for pyramid scheme. How this is listed as a not-for-profit is quite beyond me. They rely on an ever increasing number of "donors" (subscribers? required fees? the system puts bitcoin directly in your wallet but also is able to withdraw and make payments directly from your bitcoin wallet? You have to grant them that permission? say that again slowly, please?) from which they skim than finding and distributing bitcoins to its members.

If it's really a long-term wealth building platform then why are their admins also the owners and admins for BitDonix, an earlier and almost identical set up that has seen its "donor" base growth rate slowing down?

Some recommended reading:

You must be registered to see the links

You must be registered to see the links

Ultimately, this looks like a very traditional and unoriginal get-rich-quick scam in structure, with the allure of bitcoin and easy money as bait. If it works for you, great, it's a free world, do as you please, but but this is a hard no for me.


I completely agree, there is no way Dylan will be able to make a dent in what looks like hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, which is due in a matter of weeks. Other than eavesdropping or a careless off-hand remark I don't see how Dylan or Ellie would ever find out. I can't think of a compelling reason why Sophia or Liam would burden their kids with this info.

I genuinely think the debt is a bizarre storyline to have in this particular visual novel. Losing the house? Yeah, it does happen to people in real life, but in the context of this game that's going nuclear when it isn't necessary. Not only that, it's unoriginal and subverts Sophia's agency and is writing ones-self into a corner, one you can't get out of without introducing even more fantastical story elements (the rich brother in law can bail us out? teasing the don's brother will help? lame).

I think the FW route (if we consider it a direct opposite of the GW route) would be better served by Sophia getting fed up with Liam's lying about his trips to the casino and the amount of money he's losing. Maybe they have to give up their fancy cars and downgrade to mid-range domestic models, cut back on some extravagances and luxuries (fewer nights out, cheaper wine and liquor, cancel Liam's extended cable TV subscription, change to a more economical family cellular plan). Of course, this is all boring and banal, right? A bit too realistic, perhaps?

Conversely, the GW route would be better served by Sophia investing in Liam's treatment for his addiction, getting the kids involved (though that probably doesn't work if they are just tenants) being supportive and bringing him back into the family unit as a fully engaged parent and spouse.

It's months, not weeks in which the debt to Morello is due. Without any additional time jumps, by playable day 30 Liam will still have 2.5 months to pay off the debt. And he only needs to negotiate an extension of a month before his promotion. Or he can swallow his pride and ask Carl for help.

One thing I have always found curious, similar to the point Bossk makes here, is that the only route(s) that actually requires the Casino path are the lesbian ones. That in the Ellie and Patricia routes Sophia is developing an attraction to women, only to have an event that requires Sophia to flirt with a guy (Larry)

 

[Alex kryle]

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[hzjujk]

completely agree, there is no way Dylan will be able to make a dent in what looks like hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, which is due in a matter of weeks. Other than eavesdropping or a careless off-hand remark I don't see how Dylan or Ellie would ever find out. I can't think of a compelling reason why Sophia or Liam would burden their kids with this info.

I genuinely think the debt is a bizarre storyline to have in this particular visual novel. Losing the house? Yeah, it does happen to people in real life, but in the context of this game that's going nuclear when it isn't necessary. Not only that, it's unoriginal and subverts Sophia's agency and is writing ones-self into a corner, one you can't get out of without introducing even more fantastical story elements (the rich brother in law can bail us out? teasing the don's brother will help? lame).

I think the FW route (if we consider it a direct opposite of the GW route) would be better served by Sophia getting fed up with Liam's lying about his trips to the casino and the amount of money he's losing. Maybe they have to give up their fancy cars and downgrade to mid-range domestic models, cut back on some extravagances and luxuries (fewer nights out, cheaper wine and liquor, cancel Liam's extended cable TV subscription, change to a more economical family cellular plan). Of course, this is all boring and banal, right? A bit too realistic, perhaps?

Conversely, the GW route would be better served by Sophia investing in Liam's treatment for his addiction, getting the kids involved (though that probably doesn't work if they are just tenants) being supportive and bringing him back into the family unit as a fully engaged parent and spouse.

I don't understand why Sophia shouldn't tell her children about her father's guilt. That she has not done it so far is in my opinion only because she protects Liam and trusts in spite of everything and that both spouses believe that with the use of Sophia in prison the debt problem is solved. Even before the debt problem, Liam had asked Sophia to look for a part-time job to ease her financial situation. So if it turns out that Morello does not waive the money but only changes the repayment terms, the family's financial situation remains tense. Even Elli's request for new clothes, for example, could make it necessary to explain the situation. So if Sophia is also upset because she has found out that Liam has been to the casino several times, she will also tell the children the real reason for the current financial burden on the family. For me it would be an elegant method to find another reason why, for example, Dylan has no problem at all with taking away Sophia Liam. That Dylan then feels obliged to support his family by looking for part-time work is a normal reaction in such a situation. That would end the Morello story, but the direction in which it drives the narrative is of great importance.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't understand why Sophia shouldn't tell her children about her father's guilt. That she has not done it so far is in my opinion only because she protects Liam and trusts in spite of everything and that both spouses believe that with the use of Sophia in prison the debt problem is solved. Even before the debt problem, Liam had asked Sophia to look for a part-time job to ease her financial situation. So if it turns out that Morello does not waive the money but only changes the repayment terms, the family's financial situation remains tense. Even Elli's request for new clothes, for example, could make it necessary to explain the situation. So if Sophia is also upset because she has found out that Liam has been to the casino several times, she will also tell the children the real reason for the current financial burden on the family. For me it would be an elegant method to find another reason why, for example, Dylan has no problem at all with taking away Sophia Liam. That Dylan then feels obliged to support his family by looking for part-time work is a normal reaction in such a situation. That would end the Morello story, but the direction in which it drives the narrative is of great importance.

How would Dylan get a job that could support the Parker's lifestyle? With two years for him to finish high school, the best he could likely get is a minimum wage something or other.

Him getting a part-time weekend job would I think add to his character development though.

 

[hzjujk]

It's months, not weeks in which the debt to Morello is due. Without any additional time jumps, by playable day 30 Liam will still have 2.5 months to pay off the debt. And he only needs to negotiate an extension of a month before his promotion. Or he can swallow his pride and ask Carl for help.

One thing I have always found curious, similar to the point Bossk makes here, is that the only route(s) that actually requires the Casino path are the lesbian ones. That in the Ellie and Patricia routes Sophia is developing an attraction to women, only to have an event that requires Sophia to flirt with a guy (Larry)

Exactly, the problem is not the money itself. Carl will help when it is absolutely necessary. If Liam can't overcome his pride, Sophia will ask herself. Just to protect the family. From that point of view, Morello is never really a threat. But it should be a building block to explain the growing distance between the two spouses and why both children try to cheat on their father with Sophia and have not the slightest doubts. No love for her father!

 

[hzjujk]

How would Dylan get a job that could support the Parker's lifestyle? With two years for him to finish high school, the best he could likely get is a minimum wage something or other.

Him getting a part-time weekend job would I think add to his character development though.

Exactly, that's what I mean. It would be a symbolic amount. A family can bring food for the week as little as 100 euros. And he wasn't going to make any more money.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I don't understand why Sophia shouldn't tell her children about her father's guilt. That she has not done it so far is in my opinion only because she protects Liam and trusts in spite of everything and that both spouses believe that with the use of Sophia in prison the debt problem is solved. Even before the debt problem, Liam had asked Sophia to look for a part-time job to ease her financial situation. So if it turns out that Morello does not waive the money but only changes the repayment terms, the family's financial situation remains tense. Even Elli's request for new clothes, for example, could make it necessary to explain the situation. So if Sophia is also upset because she has found out that Liam has been to the casino several times, she will also tell the children the real reason for the current financial burden on the family. For me it would be an elegant method to find another reason why, for example, Dylan has no problem at all with taking away Sophia Liam. That Dylan then feels obliged to support his family by looking for part-time work is a normal reaction in such a situation. That would end the Morello story, but the direction in which it drives the narrative is of great importance.

I'm going to call bullshit on some of this, question some, and agree with the last bit:

Parents should not burden their children with their problems nor should they blame one or the other, it is a failing of the family unit regardless of the individual actions. Sophia absolutely should not tell her children anything that points the finger at Liam as the cause of their financial problems unless there is a new branch on the FW route called "VC", or vindictive cunt.

No, Sophia should not tell Ellie about WHY they are making prudent spending decisions. Parents should not deflect blame to external factors for any decision they make as this directly undermines the very authority under which they make decisions based on what they think is best.

You think Dylan is trying to "take Sophia away from Liam"? I always thought of it as a horny teenager with an Oedipal complex who isn't capable of understanding or caring about the collateral damage. I think he wants to take Sophia and doesn't really care who he's taking her from... Hmmm... I always thought the mom aspect was the appeal and the dad aspect was completely irrelevant to Dylan's thought process, it never occurred to me that hating on Liam, let alone hating on him even more, would somehow increase Dylan's motivation or determination.

If it does play out that Sophia rats out Liam to the kids and Dylan somehow convinces himself to take on the man of the house role and actively works to push his father out of the picture could be interesting and would definitely be significant to the overall story.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's months, not weeks in which the debt to Morello is due. Without any additional time jumps, by playable day 30 Liam will still have 2.5 months to pay off the debt. And he only needs to negotiate an extension of a month before his promotion. Or he can swallow his pride and ask Carl for help.

A few weeks, a couple of months, either way it's a dumb and uninspired storyline IMHO.

One thing I have always found curious, similar to the point Bossk makes here, is that the only route(s) that actually requires the Casino path are the lesbian ones. That in the Ellie and Patricia routes Sophia is developing an attraction to women, only to have an event that requires Sophia to flirt with a guy (Larry)

That is a great post - I haven't seen a reference to the Bechdel-Wallace Test since undergrad, a course called "Women in Literature". With that perspective in mind, yeah, it's more than just annoying that dick keeps getting injected into the lesbian route(s). Maybe the author is trying to paint the pursuit of lesbian relationships as a struggle to escape the pervasiveness of male sexual dominance in women's lives and in its representation in our culture? A meta-meta concept? I wouldn't put it passed him, he does have a good sense of subtlety and subtext.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'm going to call bullshit on some of this, question some, and agree with the last bit:

Parents should not burden their children with their problems nor should they blame one or the other, it is a failing of the family unit regardless of the individual actions. Sophia absolutely should not tell her children anything that points the finger at Liam as the cause of their financial problems unless there is a new branch on the FW route called "VC", or vindictive cunt.

No, Sophia should not tell Ellie about WHY they are making prudent spending decisions. Parents should not deflect blame to external factors for any decision they make as this directly undermines the very authority under which they make decisions based on what they think is best.

You think Dylan is trying to "take Sophia away from Liam"? I always thought of it as a horny teenager with an Oedipal complex who isn't capable of understanding or caring about the collateral damage. I think he wants to take Sophia and doesn't really care who he's taking her from... Hmmm... I always thought the mom aspect was the appeal and the dad aspect was completely irrelevant to Dylan's thought process, it never occurred to me that hating on Liam, let alone hating on him even more, would somehow increase Dylan's motivation or determination.

If it does play out that Sophia rats out Liam to the kids and Dylan somehow convinces himself to take on the man of the house role and actively works to push his father out of the picture could be interesting and would definitely be significant to the overall story.

While Sophia might not openly blame Liam for their financial difficulties, especially as you point out in front of Dylan and Ellie, but she certainly might in her many internal monologues. We might have to start double-checking which is being applied.

I don't recall when it was first mentioned, but I've certainly raised that one of the reasons I see no reason to play the Dylan and Sam routes is that there is simply no reason given in-game for Sophia to consider risking her marriage (and income) to play the events. There isn't even any risk to Dylan if Sophia decides not to do Aiden's tasks.

So the theories about Dylan (or Sam for that matter) gaining significant income are likely not directed at Dylan or Sam having any ill will towards Liam, but more at members attempting to present characters as financial alternatives to Liam in Sophia's eyes.

Of course that isn't an issue for those playing the Nathalie, Ellie or Patricia routes, since Liam likes the idea of a threesome with Nat, and the Ellie and Patricia routes are so intertwined, that if Liam had a problem with either of those two, Carl would simply take Sophia and Ellie in, assuming Dylan is at boarding school.

 

[hzjujk]

I'm going to call bullshit on some of this, question some, and agree with the last bit:

Parents should not burden their children with their problems nor should they blame one or the other, it is a failing of the family unit regardless of the individual actions. Sophia absolutely should not tell her children anything that points the finger at Liam as the cause of their financial problems unless there is a new branch on the FW route called "VC", or vindictive cunt.

No, Sophia should not tell Ellie about WHY they are making prudent spending decisions. Parents should not deflect blame to external factors for any decision they make as this directly undermines the very authority under which they make decisions based on what they think is best.

You think Dylan is trying to "take Sophia away from Liam"? I always thought of it as a horny teenager with an Oedipal complex who isn't capable of understanding or caring about the collateral damage. I think he wants to take Sophia and doesn't really care who he's taking her from... Hmmm... I always thought the mom aspect was the appeal and the dad aspect was completely irrelevant to Dylan's thought process, it never occurred to me that hating on Liam, let alone hating on him even more, would somehow increase Dylan's motivation or determination.

If it does play out that Sophia rats out Liam to the kids and Dylan somehow convinces himself to take on the man of the house role and actively works to push his father out of the picture could be interesting and would definitely be significant to the overall story.

Well I'll keep believing in my bullshit. Thank you for the honest answer. That I don't burden my children with the family's financial situation applies to their family but not to mine. Children are not stupid and can see connections.
Especially since Dylan and Elli of the virtual Parker family are no longer 6-year-old children who could be mentally damaged and, on the contrary, should know a little more about the seriousness of life.

The only reason parents don't expose each other in front of their children is because this is a single mistake, no matter how big it may be, because it is the worst way to resolve a conflict. Just like L&P does in its narrative. But possible multiple casino visits by Liam could change the picture of the situation for Sophia.
But my theory is not that important to me. I'm finishing this now.