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I'll agree. If Sophia and Patricia arrive at the bar together, and then go home together, that leaves very narrow window for anything to happen with Sam. If this event is actually a Patricia and Sophia event instead of Sam and Sophia, then ok maybe that makes more sense; but our understanding is that this event exists to advance the relationship with Sam. If Sophia leaves the bar with Patricia without some significant progress with Sam, it's going to feel like like the Sam storyline is spinning its wheels.
Sophia wore what Aiden told her to and got on a motorbike with him without knowing where they where going to.
Why should this event be any different?
 
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Was there any indication that Patricia suspected something serious was developing between Sam and Sophia? And Patricia is someone who wants to prevent that? For me it is no problem at all that Sophia lets Sam drive her home if Sam suggests that. And that Patricia has no problem with it. Sam and Sophia are neighbors, the proposal is just effective.
It all really depends on what/when/how/who of the second part of the event, which for some reason L&P is keeping secret.

I'm still assuming that Sophia will go straight from the event to Cathy's, since both are probably in the city. So they'd be no reason for Sam to drive Sophia home, hence getting a lift from Patricia.
 

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Sophia wore what Aiden told her to and got on a motorbike with him without knowing where they where going to.
Whya should this event be any different?
I've always said it's not realistic. After the last update, it would be best to give her the address
 
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It all really depends on what/when/how/who of the second part of the event, which for some reason L&P is keeping secret.

I'm still assuming that Sophia will go straight from the event to Cathy's, since both are probably in the city. So they'd be no reason for Sam to drive Sophia home, hence getting a lift from Patricia.
She may get changed first
 
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It all really depends on what/when/how/who of the second part of the event, which for some reason L&P is keeping secret.

I'm still assuming that Sophia will go straight from the event to Cathy's, since both are probably in the city. So they'd be no reason for Sam to drive Sophia home, hence getting a lift from Patricia.
I think that the concert will last with all 1hour. To early for Cathy.
They left Sophia 's house at 7pm
 
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We still attach too much importance to Sophia's clothes. If the patrons had chosen the rock outfit nobody would assume that Sophia would have to change before she goes to Cathy and Andrew. L&P won't tell two stories based on clothing.
I was just assuming that she may get changed either way I don't care about the outfit that she is wearing
 

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I was just assuming that she may get changed either way I don't care about the outfit that she is wearing
Yes it is not important. It also doesn't matter whether Sam drives Sophia home or straight to Cathy. It is only important that Sam has the opportunity to be alone with Sophia. And the Cathy event after that is important in my opinion for the development of the relationship between Sam and Sophia the next day.
 

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The Cathy event after that is important in my opinion for the development of the relationship between Sam and Sophia the next day.
The point was that Sam could see Sophia changing but this would be a big let down.
Could you explain this please
 
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So if Patricia drives Sophia home(or to meet with Liam) the Sam event could happen either before or after meeting up with Liam?

Yes. The concert is just the very ambitious prelude for the actual interesting event. But it's not an "after party"! At least not the way you think of it.
So what you were suggesting here is that the concert and Cathy's event are interleaved?
I mean, what if during the concert Sophia gets the call to go to Cathy's, at that point she has to leave under the disheartened eyes of Sam who is still performing. Cathy's event happens and once they get back Sophia e.g. randomly meets Sam coming back from the concert and that's the solo moment (I don't know where though, but in a "simpler" environment). I mean something like that, where the two sub events "concert" and "solo moment" happen at different time of the night, with Cathy's event in between.

That could make sense whether Sam's event plays or not (being optional)
 

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The point was that Sam could see Sophia changing but this would be a big let down.
Could you explain this please
Difficult, but I'll try. Imagine Sophia who has just allowed Sam to kiss her or touch her breasts. And now she goes to a couple who are planning their wedding. That should remind Sophia of her own marriage vows. And you will feel ashamed and guilty. And she will tell herself that she has to end the thing with Sam. We assume that Cathy and Andrey will make the Parkers a covert sexual offer (swinger or ...). And Sophia notes that Liam is ready to respond. Even more - Sophia sees Liam looking at Cathy. The idea of an open marriage is back and Sophia has the feeling that Liam would accept it. Perhaps Sophia is also a little pissed off when she notices that Liam is looking after another woman while her own wife was able to save his ass on the same day.
That's why I think the event is important. It takes the pressure off Sophia of having the feeling of betraying her husband. Without that evening, Sam would be starting from scratch the next day.
 

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Difficult, but I'll try. Imagine Sophia who has just allowed Sam to kiss her or touch her breasts. And now she goes to a couple who are planning their wedding. That should remind Sophia of her own marriage vows. And you will feel ashamed and guilty. And she will tell herself that she has to end the thing with Sam. We assume that Cathy and Andrey will make the Parkers a covert sexual offer (swinger or ...). And Sophia notes that Liam is ready to respond. Even more - Sophia sees Liam looking at Cathy. The idea of an open marriage is back and Sophia has the feeling that Liam would accept it. Perhaps Sophia is also a little pissed off when she notices that Liam is looking after another woman while her own wife was able to save his ass on the same day.
That's why I think the event is important. It takes the pressure off Sophia of having the feeling of betraying her husband. Without that evening, Sam would be starting from scratch the next day.
Thanks.I get it now
 

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So if Patricia drives Sophia home(or to meet with Liam) the Sam event could happen either before or after meeting up with Liam?

Yes. The concert is just the very ambitious prelude for the actual interesting event. But it's not an "after party"! At least not the way you think of it.
the Tree house?Sophie and sam meet there or another visit to Sam room :unsure:
 

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Difficult, but I'll try. Imagine Sophia who has just allowed Sam to kiss her or touch her breasts. And now she goes to a couple who are planning their wedding. That should remind Sophia of her own marriage vows. And you will feel ashamed and guilty. And she will tell herself that she has to end the thing with Sam. We assume that Cathy and Andrey will make the Parkers a covert sexual offer (swinger or ...). And Sophia notes that Liam is ready to respond. Even more - Sophia sees Liam looking at Cathy. The idea of an open marriage is back and Sophia has the feeling that Liam would accept it. Perhaps Sophia is also a little pissed off when she notices that Liam is looking after another woman while her own wife was able to save his ass on the same day.
That's why I think the event is important. It takes the pressure off Sophia of having the feeling of betraying her husband. Without that evening, Sam would be starting from scratch the next day.
We can't rule anything out, but L&P has never used this before. Sophia should start with Ellie/Julia and move on to Aiden, even Dylan.
 
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