VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

Daz isn't hard. It's probably challenging to master it but truth be told, most devs aren't even trying to make as good renders as L&P which should a bit above the standard in 2021 but not by much. Instead he and 4 or 5 more devs actually create great artwork, are miles away from the rest and the rest are just terrible.

I don't understand how dev's like SNC and plenty of others can get away with shit renders and get paid for what is terrible work. Absolutely terrible. Renders that look like 2016.

Daz is not hard!!! Hahaha

After the first pose you realize that light is important: Diffuse, Ambient Occlusion, Specular ..... is related to surfaces and surfaces are related to: Normal map, Bump map, Displ Map, ....
And then you get the UVs and you realise you need a 3D Modeller and that's where the fun starts. You have to learn how to use the program correctly so that the result will have a good topology, with well done UVs and associated maps.

Let's say 1 year

 

[Old Dog]

Thanks for that info. But I have a question. If the cause for the error is the hair not being fit properly why is it not there in the other renders. I just checked. I don't think the model is adjusted after every render so why does only one render have that error and not others.

As Alley_Cat has posted it can be fixed easily either by adjusting the forehead deph would solve this error or even Photo Shop.

 

[Hlextor]

If a mother having sex with her daughter/son on day 10 is not making sense,it is the same thing on day 20,30,40 even 100.
The devs are just using that as excuse to delay any incest as much as possible.

You are so right! I add to your sentence, why L&P will bring the incest as late as possible. ... so that the tension in the game is maintained and that in turn has the consequence that his supporters, who have chosen Dylan and Ellie as favored characters, will remain for a very long time.
Which makes no sense to me. He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Thank you, but...

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Have a nice weekend all of you

Why . Just find something you like and leave us alone.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Daz is not hard!!! Hahaha

After the first pose you realize that light is important: Diffuse, Ambient Occlusion, Specular ..... is related to surfaces and surfaces are related to: Normal map, Bump map, Displ Map, ....
And then you get the UVs and you realise you need a 3D Modeller and that's where the fun starts. You have to learn how to use the program correctly so that the result will have a good topology, with well done UVs and associated maps.

Let's say 1 year

From my post

"It's probably hard to master it".

Now go check all games in this website and tell me how many are even using 50% of DAZ potential.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

You are so right! I add to your sentence, why L&P will bring the incest as late as possible. ... so that the tension in the game is maintained and that in turn has the consequence that his supporters, who have chosen Dylan and Ellie as favored characters, will remain for a very long time.
Which makes no sense to me. He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.

L&P is under the wrong impression that he needs to dangle the sex carrot in front of his supporters eyes so they keep paying.

Even the game clearly has a sections where things are starting to get hot fast and then L&P just does a 180 and tames things one more time.

 

[BorgiaBou]

He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.

Yeah you right here, to give you an example is the game A Mother's Love where you can bang the main LI pretty much from the first release and now we are at 10th release, i swear i cannot wait to see what's next with them i do not care that we allready banged her so many times...
I don't get it what's with devs streching so much till we get sex scenes with some characters we love, they're affraid that we'll lose interest or wtf?
Look at Badik i'm a fan of Bella (i know she's the favorite of a lot of guys here) but now i'm afraid that she'll not have so many sex scenes like others had, we are at the end of season 2 and no sex scene with her i mean even Quinn wich btw is not a LI has more sex scenes, c'mon man be serious...

 

[nexer]

We don't have a new teaser, I checked, it means the second part, translation and programming will take some time.
The later he publishes a teaser, the shorter the waiting period for the update.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

So we have moved on from altitude of airports, number of pigeons and carrying capacity of bags to seemingly arguing over an error that is literally one-hairs breadth??!!

I guess that's progress.....

 

[Sabertooth__]

So we have moved on from altitude of airports, number of pigeons and carrying capacity of bags to seemingly arguing over an error that is literally one-hairs breadth??!!

I guess that's progress.....

Though in this entire discussion I got a chance to increase my knowledge of daz so I'm kinda okay

 

[nexer]

Curiously, the two characters G3F and G8F have about the same number of vertices/faces, even G3F more than G8F.

 

[Old Dog]

Curiously, the two characters G3F and G8F have about the same number of vertices/faces, even G3F more than G8F.
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I use a g3 converted to G8 model of Sophia

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Friends!, by chance no one knows, after this game, the Developer (ca), is there another game in the plans = novella ???

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yeah you right here, to give you an example is the game A Mother's Love where you can bang the main LI pretty much from the first release and now we are at 10th release, i swear i cannot wait to see what's next with them i do not care that we allready banged her so many times...
I don't get it what's with devs streching so much till we get sex scenes with some characters we love, they're affraid that we'll lose interest or wtf?
Look at Badik i'm a fan of Bella (i know she's the favorite of a lot of guys here) but now i'm afraid that she'll not have so many sex scenes like others had, we are at the end of season 2 and no sex scene with her i mean even Quinn wich btw is not a LI has more sex scenes, c'mon man be serious...

Or Mother Lovers Society. They've barely unpacked boxes after moving into the new place, and already the daughter gets eaten out by the mother. Last update was the first that didn't have any sex in it. Some of the more mundane stuff is actually what I'm looking forward to.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Clic on latest updates and enjoy urself with better stuff, explore urself as other do, mate.

The quantity of useless and not related with sex scenes renders this guy do may qualify this game as no sexual content-blue ball fest. Maybe u are into reading and blue balling, but not my fetish. Aside this, not a damn animated scene, just renders of a very cliche and predictable story of the boring housewife, a retarded cucked son and some titty, sometimes.

Kill it with fire.

I find myself agreeing with Sabertooth__ in the essence you are a waste of time. You say nothing new. Add nothing to the discussion. Rant at others for whatever reason. I guess it is your jolly for the day. If you don't like the work say so once,or not at all. All you prove is there are trolls of all flavors across the membership here.

 

[armion82]

He could do that but then it won't be fun. The incest to me seems like the ultimate downfall. So it would make sense towards the end. In any show you don't have the main character and main villian fight all out in the first few episodes, you save it till the end, that's how it is

You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.

 

[Sabertooth__]

You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.

Okay, initially I didn't get your discussion but what you say now is also not agreeable. She was not ready to even imagine cheating on her husband on day 1, now things are going complete opposite. The reason why a story is told is because things change, characters change, the events of the story change them. So saying if she won't do it on day 10 she wouldn't do it on day 1000 as well is not correct. With each passing day L&P is building up to it. Most games don't do that buildup. With each passing day she is getting closer to doing it.

Any character can do anything as long as it is properly written and built up. The whole logic that if she doesn't do it at the beginning she will never do it till the end is flawed. Ofcourse if she is explicitly asked will she commit incest, the answer will always be a no but what is going on in her mind and the actions in the moment are speaking something completely different

 

[hzjujk]

Okay, initially I didn't get your discussion but what you say now is also not agreeable. She was not ready to even imagine cheating on her husband on day 1, now things are going complete opposite. The reason why a story is told is because things change, characters change, the events of the story change them. So saying if she won't do it on day 10 she wouldn't do it on day 1000 as well is not correct. With each passing day L&P is building up to it. Most games don't do that buildup. With each passing day she is getting closer to doing it.

Any character can do anything as long as it is properly written and built up. The whole logic that if she doesn't do it at the beginning she will never do it till the end is flawed. Ofcourse if she is explicitly asked will she commit incest, the answer will always be a no but what is going on in her mind and the actions in the moment are speaking something completely different

No, it will not be the thrill for someone who does not break this taboo, even after the 1000 day. And since Sophia has enough other sex partners available, she shouldn't even think about having sex with her son or daughter. In my opinion, even a logical structure of the story will not change that. Sophia has either always turned on / aroused taboos or it is not credible. And Sophia seems to have passed on this desire to cross boundaries to her children. Of course, you can again blame the Internet for giving children such thoughts.

 

[roro]

You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.

I don't get your logic. What is so special about day 15? Why not day 14? 10? Hell, why not day 1?

 

[Sabertooth__]

No, it will not be the thrill for someone who does not break this taboo, even after the 1000 day. And since Sophia has enough other sex partners available, she shouldn't even think about having sex with her son or daughter. In my opinion, even a logical structure of the story will not change that. Sophia has either always turned on / aroused taboos or it is not credible. And Sophia seems to have passed on this desire to cross boundaries to her children. Of course, you can again blame the Internet for giving children such thoughts.

The reason to have sex with someone is not that you don't have other options. It is the attraction that is felt. Sophia never thought about sexual situations with her children just like she never considered getting aroused by being in embarrassing situations in the Aiden task.

From this point in her life she has started to experience such sexual situations with her own children. And when alone this is what would run through her mind. The more she thinks about it - it will only lead to two things, either she will be completely disgusted by herself or she will start to like it.

Presently what is happening is Sophia isn't aware of the sexual side of this. Her dialogues with Ellie and Dylan are more with their respective themes like for Dylan it is sex ed. Though she doesn't yet think sexually about what she is doing, this is still incestuous. So in future this could slip further in a moment of expansion leading to acts that make her realise what she has been doing.

Though in all honesty I wouldn't want her to actually have sex with her children. More so with Dylan ( since he is a bit less mature than Ellie, Ellie can move on, Dylan won't be able to ). The consequences of sex with her children are way too serious to ignore. And that's where it will be quite a test for L&P on how he writes the scene and potrays the consequences. Because if he can't all the effort to try and be as realistic as possible will be in vain.

But if he does have a scene with mother and son sex and is able to handle it really well. Keep it real, show the consequences and move the story on. In my eyes he would be an exceptional writer. So as long as he can justify that I am all for incest too. To me that scenario is impossible to imagine without it becoming a daily nuisance for Sophia, sooner or later pulling Ellie into this which Liam will found out at some point leading to lots of fights, divorce etc etc.