The strange thing is it doesn't hit the people who mock them. I support L&P with a small amount and I have thought about your contribution and noticed that your insult does not hurt me in any way. It has been my decision to support him and it will be my decision to stop at some point. But that they despise me and the other supporters will have nothing to do with it. Rather, I am amused by how frustrating it must be to repeatedly grapple with arguments that obviously don't interest you at all. They have their opinions on the subject and that is a good thing. I do not share it, but I accept it. They consider L&P to be an ass that arouses their anger and absolutely cannot understand why others don't. I am often present in this forum and I like the game, but it is not the center of my world. And that's why I can be patient, don't have to get upset about every statement from L&P and don't develop envy of things that I cannot control.
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This entire post is missing the point and just shows that you have basically no clue as to what the discussion was about in the past couple of pages. Instead of coming here and hating on the bad "leeches" of F95, how about you fulfill some of your promises like the ones on your patreon page?
If you're so stressed from working "every day" being a one-man army, how about hiring someone to help you out with some of the stuff? If only there were people who'd apply to do the job. If only there were professional translators offering their help...Oh wait...
How about letting your supporters know when you're going on a 2-3 week vacation again, instead of just disappearing while people keep paying a month with basically no work done without knowing what the heck is going on?
Also, it seems like you keep forgetting that without websites like this one, your game would barely have any supporters at all. The very foundation of your current income was made possible due to PR from F95 and other sources offering your game. But yet for some reason, the people here and elsewhere are just dirty little pirates in your head.
Man, I could keep writing paragraph after paragraph, but I've learned a long time ago back when I was still one of your patreons that it's of no use, because you're so full of yourself it sometimes really is disgusting. You are so talented and your game has such huge potential, but it's not going anywhere if you keep doing what you're doing. Atleast not until the year 2050.
Did you read what this post was about? I know it is his game. This was not about the game!
He has two choices. Avoid interaction except through Patreon or interact in many locations including here. If you look at his interactions here they are always contentious. He never works the crowd. In his recent post, to his apparent nemesis Viper, he had two good paragraphs he could have built on and then given Viper an appropriate and earned IGNORE. I stated as such. Not a damn thing about his game.
Then I called him on HIS PROMISE to build a team when he hit a certain subscriber level. This is still not about his game. It is all about him and his promises and his possibilities. I encouraged him to be a dev who interacted with the community (Go read the recent Where the Heart is Thread. Cheeky and Ace are just chatting away. Some is their views of trolls some is their views of games some is their game.)
So take time to Read TomUK before you jump to a conclusion. I encouraged him to interact here on art (He is skilled. as you capture immediately in the 1st two paragraphs) even if it had nothing to do with AWAM. I encouraged him to build his team and have them contribute. It all builds his credibility. Not one damn thing about his game! I encouraged his interaction here as an artist not just a contentious, pretentious dev.
To be blunt not a damn thing about the game but, his results and promises for sure!
Spends 4 hours adjusting lights, acheivies 1 percent colour gradient change. perfect.
Me a colour blind person. "Huh?"
The one thing that sings true in that rant: " I should create a video".... but you wont will you.
Because that will probably call you out for all the overcomplications you create to justify the time you take.
Me a colour blind person. "Huh?"
The one thing that sings true in that rant: " I should create a video".... but you wont will you.
Because that will probably call you out for all the overcomplications you create to justify the time you take.
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Spends 4 hours adjusting lights, acheivies 1 percent colour gradient change. perfect.
Are you serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually, he is already working in a team 
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Let the boy brown noseThis is funny man, him building a team...
Beautiful.
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I'm quite sure he was looking for someone to work on DoL so he could put his focus on AWAM. It wasn't a "team" member helping him out. Which could be a one-time thing.
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All scenes except the last little one are done and rendered.
Currently there are 833 renders for all of them. The "Cathy/Andy" event will be a rather small one and I'm hurrying to finish it next week around Thursday. Then I need to do something in my private life and continue the art editing on Saturday. Tuesday will also be a day where I won't be able to work. But from Wednesday 19 on I will just work on the last part of the update.
So, next week you'll get the last teaser and I'll also announce an approximate release time span for update 0.150
That was for the last update. Has he made this a long term arangement or even announced that he has an actual team. Nope just a one time translator. If he had this guy for the current update then translation would already be done right! Oooops, I forgot he needs to write the whole event so he can't use the translator yet. I hope he developes a relationship here. I hope it becomes a team. Until that is a fact I don't count on it. One can hope.
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i support LP, i have a career making renders, i dont actually use, DAZ Studio but, it doesnt matter what sofwer you use, it's still pretty much the same, i work with 3Ds Max and V-Ray (i make architecture renders) And a lot a people think that it's really easy to make, but it's actually a lot of work, you have to make a lot of adjusments, theres a lot of things you have to get just right, pressing the "render button it's the easiest and best part of my day because you just have to sit and wait from a few minutes to a few hours (depending on the quality of the render) but what takes the most time, it's adjusting the scene, modeling everything, the lighting can ve specially tricky, because some thins can look burn (to bright/white) while other can look to dark, and when you have the perfect lighting for one shot, even if it's the same scene, if it's a different shot from a different angle you do have to adjust the lighting, which again is anoying, and takes time, in my work i usually make 1 or 1 and 1/2 renders per day, so to make a update as LP does, it would take me over a year, whitout considering all the programming, wrighting, etc. (but i'm guessing DAZ Studios rendering time is faster than that of 3Ds Max)
But i do think it would be nice, if you (LP) could get someone to help you with the work so the updates can get done faster, i bet theres a lot a people in here that would like to work for you (like those in the fanart section, who makes their own renders)
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Hi L&P, are you planning on adding any vocal audio for a 'masturbating or sex' scene if it happens in the next update like you did for Sophia & Alyssa scene with Antonio.
In my opinion it makes the scene very hot.
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There is no doubt she is going to have it an easier time, but still doesn't address the logic behind it. You can have different methods and approaches to a story, it is just when you increase the complexity of the story like adding relationship status with family members and then bring the comment into the mix of why one member of the family is further than the other, you only add to the problem of justifying your logic to the audience. He didn't think this one out clearly.The logically handling part in my message is only for a potential sex scene between the two.
We two have already argued whether the two should be treated differently or not. I believe Ellie will have it easier than Dylan. Yes her relationship with Sophia is treading a little too far for normal mother daughter but that will be the case with Dylan soon as well. For me the bigger difference is because of the approach. If L&P mentions that the only reason for a difference between the two is that Ellie is a girl and Dylan is not then I wouldn't agree with him either. It is just part of the reason, the remaining difference lies in the approach.
But I know you are not going to agree with me on this and neither would I agree on your view. All we can do is peace out and keep looking at it in our ways
Also, it's not a matter of "IF L&P Mentions", he did. That is his reasoning for why Dylan is where is in the story.
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Lmao I'm sure he will build a team just because you asked dear fan.
It's funny this dude complains about exactly the same things I do but ignores me for some reason.And so much for the communication!
You had the opportunity to complete the expression of your work which was reasonable stated in the 1st two paragraphs. Then you go off and vent WHILE YOU STILL DO NOT HAVE THE TEAM YOU SAID YOU WOULD! Why would anyone believe anything you say from your tower. We all know Viper is a flaming jerk. It is why I have IGNORED him. You just add fuel to his fire to vent your frustration. Really! We have the same frustration with YOU because you don't do what you say you will do. And what you say has no corroboration. You are not credible in your own defense.
Get a team together, as you said you would! Encourage some open discussion and share thoughts on artwork (Does not have to be your plans for AWAM.) Have members of your team available to interact. And get a skin that is thicker than a sheet of tissue paper. Then you move from pretentious recluse to interesting Dev. I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell of this happening but, the ball is in your court. Don't drop it!
I know I'm on ignore but you're going to click the button and read this post anyways so here it is:
There are several good questions in this thread
Several talks about plot, render tech, ways to help Lazy&Passive, etc. he ignores all of those.
Who does he answer? Me. It's not the first or the second time.
He actually takes more time answering me than answering his patrons, his patrons' emails and from what I heard, attending to his discord. He even took time of his precious overbearing schedule to look at 18 renders of an amateur dude.
Think about that for a while. Everytime he starts getting caught in his shenanigans, he comes in blasting away all mad like any of this is actually meaningful. Would be hilarious if not a bit sad, really.
And don't call me a nemesis. I've supported the development of this game for a long time, tried to get him help of a translator, offered to pay for a dev to work with him so he could see that a team could work better etc. I'm not a nemesis, I'm a realist, and the reality is this is a milking machine made up to drag as long as he needs until he ends up abandoning it whenever he has had enough.
That guy was only a dude to get his game under Patreon's rules.
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Well you were also pretty salty when sled_chair criticized your renders and made assumptions that were not true according to you. Numerous messages after that where you continue to ask him to send email to L&P and so on. You were pretty triggered by him even though you don't care much about art and stuff. So I can only imagine someone who is serious about his art getting triggered when assumptions are made on his renders and there are constant attempts to show his art his full of errors while those errors are so small in such low number of renders that they don't even account for a percent or two of his entire work.Imagine being this salty lmao
Since we're talking about output, let me remind you your translation output was 2.15 pages per day in the last update and your rendering was 5 per day. 6 months to do a morning of your Game.
Regarding my renders, I have absolutely no intention of ever making this a career, I'm not a fan of salary cuts nor I want to never be able to talk about what I do for a living.
Someone told me to try Daz and I did, 50 hours were enough to make my renders look better than your first X updates in your VN. That's how you should compare it. Don't compare it after you had 15000 hours of doing this. Again regarding my renders, pretty cool that you came out of your second account but still spouting the same bullshit but here's my answer dear Lazy&Passive
- They are indeed looking at the action. The ones that aren't is the guy trying to get with Sophia's sister and Sophia's sister.
- Expressions aren't bland or preseted and they were indeed made on the normal dials per face section (mouth open eyes closed etc etc you know the drill). Try to go out once in a while when you take a break from your 11h a day (yeah, right) job and you'll see cartoonish expressions only go in.. cartoons.
- I did indeed use Photoshop on everything. Everything. And anyone not holding a grudge and writing with raging tears on his eyes can see that.
- Used Dforce on the dress except on the last renders which werent even supposed to be posted but fuck it its fan art so what does it matter?
- Hair looks shit because it's the shit hair you chose for this scene because apparently Sophia changes lenght of hair like you change excuses.
- Wrong about the standard prop lighting. I'm sorry if I didn't go and use GodRays like Sophia has ascended from heaven in every fucking scene.
- That's an amateur with 2 hours on his hands. It would have taken you 4 days to do 18 renders. I'm pretty sure I could use 42 hours more (basically doubling my Daz experience) and get them better than what they look like.
- In the last few pages there is a professional with 15000 hours' renders with legs clipping a table and hair clipping a forehead lmao.
- Again, all of it, including rendering 1440p, was done in 2 something hours. You can't even translate 5 sentences of your damn suposedly already written script in that time.
Also if you were as good at arguing as you are making excuses for your game delays you would have noticed that it has been stated that I have 50h of experience in Daz with no intentions of pursuing anything around this. You come here on top of your 15000 hours of DAZ, bash renders that look better than yours when you started doing this and way above those 50 hours but then say this:
Lmao. So you know experience makes a big difference in this and then come and compare 15000 hours of experience with 50h?
Here's a render of yours buddy, with 6 months of experience under your belt which assuming you were part-time doing this at the time goes to the ballpark of 700 hours. Bland render. Congrats.
Lastly, a woman riding a mechanical bull being boring or not it's all a matter of preference, it'll probably be boring to someone who prefers the MC to jack off 2 kids.
We're still waiting on the stream you said you would do.
We're still waiting on the better development cycles.
We're still waiting on the promise you made about hiring someone to help.
We're still waiting on faster development output based on the promises of
1. dedicating full time to this, which you clearly don't.
2. based on better hardware, faster scene creation/rendering times
3. less events per update
4. getting a team to work with you
We're still waiting for you not to take 1 day to translate 2 pages of MS Word (with help, can't even imagine without help how many you would have done).
So far the only thing we don't need to wait are excuses.
edit: Oh and regarding the cyclist analogy, I'll give you a hand buddy (but not like Sophia gave a hand to those 2 kids
An amateur picked up a bycicle. Went with it to do the tour and some Lance Armstrong fans confused that amateur with Lance .
That's what's up. I'm not sure if it's the amateur that should feel good or if it's Lance that should feel bad. Based on your rage, I assume it's Lance that would feel bad.
The man right behind Patricia is actually not looking at Sophia for sure. I zoomed in to see where his eyes were looking and they are definitely not looking at Sophia on the bull. Just so you see I am not making things up and hating on you,
clearly the eyes are not in Sophia's direction. In this same render the way Patricia is showing her ring is not humanly possible. The position of her fingers, not something humans can generally do. Anyone who doubts that, try and replicate the position of each of her fingers and see if you ring finger stands as straight as Patricia's. And Patricia is not even looking at guy infront of her and as for the expression on Patricia's face again it conveys nothing. Another basic error is that when someone puts a finger so close to your eyes you can't focus on it so you tend to flinch back. But here it is as if the guy has no intention of going back even if it means he can't see Patricia's finger or try act like a human and move a bit back.
I am no daz expert but I can see the basic things too. I don't know about what others think, but a render of Sophia on which she is riding the bull, her expression is indeed bland. That potrayed no emotions. Poses aren't that natural either.
All in all there are many other mistakes in your renders too which are basic. What L&P said about your renders isn't lie at all. If in just one render there are so many problems I can only imagine the others and this is from someone who knows not the technicalities, people with proper technical knowledge can definitely say much more. If L&P were to deliver renders with such errors it would be totally unacceptable to everyone here to even include them in the game.
And I will honestly say that anyone who got confused that it was an L&P render totally didn't even care to properly look or have no sense at all. The first and obvious difference that should tell anyone that it is not an original is Sophia's skin colour. If they can't even see that I don't know about them. The only thing that probably confused most is the patreon link leading to L&P's page. The YouTube channel..... They just want thumbnails for click baiting, yours did the job or that guy too was redundant enough to not see the basic differences from the previous teasers of the event.
Everytime you write something it is to show that L&P's daily work is way too easy and can be done 2 hrs max and he is just wasting time. And then you say that he only targets you.
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For the record, you are arguing with a known pirate who was stealing intellectual property for a long time.
One day, after many a night of fruitless onanistic behaviour, he decided that he will, to put it euphemistically, borrow a certain game from a certain Polish developer and this is basically how it started.
I was not paying attention to his career, as this is my first and last statement in regard to that nonentity, but I do wonder if he himself being who he is, was impugning any pirates because if so, then the hypocrisy would be beyond symptomatisch...
For the record, you are arguing with a known pirate who was stealing intellectual property for a long time.
One day, after many a night of fruitless onanistic behaviour, he decided that he will, to put it euphemistically, borrow a certain game from a certain Polish developer and this is basically how it started.
I was not paying attention to his career, as this is my first and last statement in regard to that nonentity, but I do wonder if he himself being who he is, was impugning any pirates because if so, then the hypocrisy would be beyond symptomatisch...
You are trying to argue with someone who doesn't accept facts and truth. IMO, it's waste of time. And that's why I just ignored him and let him make a fool out of himself. Assumptions that are not true? Look careful. That's his middle name.