VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Since when did criticizing something make you a hater/troll?

Because they love L&P, so everyone who doesn't, is a hater. Quite simple.
Dumb people can only see white or black, never gray.

The fact remains that none of them is able to answer questions and push against facts and just resort to:

1. sticking to 1 point that everyone has agreed on and waste everyones time (see nexer's posts)
2. ignore all the remaining facts
3. ignore every indication that this VN is getting less content every year and more time between updates
4. promptly lick L&P's ass despite him not giving 2 fucks about anyone here
5. ignoring the fact that L&P has completed all goals in terms of $ but didnt keep his word
6. ignoring L&Ps lies who even on the same day writes confliting arguments

Just a normal day in the AWAM thread.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

How did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.

DIK:

Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved

AWAM:

Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls

The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:

Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often

You forgot to add "pedophilia scenes" in the AWAM section.

Oh and if you follow AWAM, stay tuned: SAM is going to move on from touching the fabric of Sophia's clothes and finally

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[xxxorro]

Thanks for the link, but I understand Latin

Besides I plan to translate the game in Latin (+ with Latin font ). For now there are only two people interested, me and Brother Robert because it reminds him of his studies

Uxur et Mater.
I like it! I'm a bit rusty but I can help if you want.
Better start with some of the keywords of the game:
pigeon --> pullus columbinus
airport --> aeroportus (still convinced that the 3000m airport will be part of a twist in the game)
fabric --> textĭle
treehouse --> arbor domus
door and wall --> porta et murus (we need nexer onboard for this )

Amen!

 

[DARK_ANGEL_HACK]

Is not moving anymore

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

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Even when they move, it doesn't mean anything.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Yes I agree, I would not expect much in term of "action" in this event. Just the other day he said it's gonna be a rather small event.
The interesting part story-wise would be

1. see what they (Cathy&Andy) want to ask them, the speculations lead to a swinging event down the road (not saying they will ask explicitly, they will ask something that will lead to that later on). And we don't have any evidence about that, though. In Apollodore 's book of wild speculations you can also find the hypothesis of sperm donation because the couple is infertile.
2. see if there is a FW and GW route for the event based on what happened during the dressing event, notably if Liam peek at Cathy while Sophia left for Aiden's task. If so it could be a sort of "warning" for Sophia to basically say "go on with Aiden's tasks/FW and something can happen between Cathy and Liam" (personal speculation)

I know I am not the only one who thinks that firstly Sophia needs a tipping point event to actively cheat on Liam, and secondly that we have not such an event, yet.

I think Apollodore might be on the right lines thinking that could be tied in with Ctahy & Andy, either this meeting or the next one. If Liam shows that he is too eager to have sex with Cathy (to help them have a baby if Andy is in fact infertile), then even though it is not Liam cheating on Sophia if she agrees to it, BUT it could allow Sophia to think "Well if it is ok for Liam to have sex with another....."

Even if fertility is nt used as such a plot point, could still get to a similar scenario if Liam pays too much attention to Cathy or he is ok with Sophia and Andy flirting (personally I don't think the latter as Liam has previous for showing jealousy re Sophia).

 

[Ginji]

The worst that could happen is that L&P just burns out and reaches a point of not knowing what to do when they use these games as a time full job that's when they have to put as much money in their bank accounts as they can because Patreon doesn't give you a retirement nor does it give you health insurance it doesn't give you life insurance they have to insure their old age and I don't think they think much about investing in a business other than gaming

burns out from what,a hectic update schedule seriously.over 1500 patrons back this game.you are seriously suggesting that a dev should plan a game release around his/her retirement plan or to include their healthcare plan at the expense of their patrons.your statment is poor and naive at best.if you want to defend L+P that is your right and i have no problem with that but i would suggest you stick to the known varibles of the dev/game because your post is only going to antagonise people who already have issues with it.

 

[roro]

You're the one looking stupid. A person that has worked for L&P has posted here the way he works (in translation). If you read that and think that anyone is saving time in that, then you're just another 15yo edgelord who has no idea how teamwork should be.
And the person who tries to justify lies with insults is L&P when he makes his every-6-month apparition.

Now roro, stop wasting my time.

Also really like how every L&P stan glossed over the fact L&P mentioned a side-job when in his patreon goals, he said he would leave his side-job. And that goal has been completed for months.

It's just unbelievable how you dodge everything that doesn't fit to your theory. But that's what trolls do, so nothing new here. I never said he has any kind of skill in team work. If you read some of my other posts, you'll see I believe he has 0 skill in teamwork, but what does it have to do with the fact he does work with somebody, and as little as may be, that saves him time.
And about insults, I don't support L&P with his stupid insults. They only show he has some serious issues, but be hones here - that's what you really wanted. All you're doing here is calling him names, talk *** about his work and between the lines moking his art. For me it was obvious, knowing how he reacted here in the past, that soon he wouldn't be able to keep himself. If you have even small amount of emotional intelligence you knew this also. That's not me defending him for his insults, just my opinion on the subject.

If I waste your time, feel free to use the ignore function.

And for the sidejob, I didn't gloss over it, but it's irrelevant to what I was discussing here. You can write about it here as long as you like, I guess nobody will defend him for this. He sure ain't perfect. If that's what you're saying, I guess everyone here feels the same.

 

[Hlextor]

That doesn't answer anything about comparing DPC's game with L&P's VN and you keep ignoring the obvious so go play with polygons some more or looking at doors and stop wasting everyone's time.

Because they love L&P, so everyone who doesn't, is a hater. Quite simple.
Dumb people can only see white or black, never gray.

The fact remains that none of them is able to answer questions and push against facts and just resort to:

1. sticking to 1 point that everyone has agreed on and waste everyones time (see nexer's posts)
2. ignore all the remaining facts
3. ignore every indication that this VN is getting less content every year and more time between updates
4. promptly lick L&P's ass despite him not giving 2 fucks about anyone here
5. ignoring the fact that L&P has completed all goals in terms of $ but didnt keep his word
6. ignoring L&Ps lies who even on the same day writes confliting arguments

Just a normal day in the AWAM thread.

You forgot to add "pedophilia scenes" in the AWAM section.

Oh and if you follow AWAM, stay tuned: SAM is going to move on from touching the fabric of Sophia's clothes and finally

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Hey Viper, I don't know. Maybe you should pause for a moment and practice self-reflection?

1. What do I want to achieve with my posts?
2. What goals have I already achieved with them?
3. Why am I behaving this way?
4. What is really important to me?
5. How can I help others feel better about themselves? and last but not least
6. Who am I truly?

Maybe these questions will help you to be more satisfied and happier again. Good luck.

 

[DanMorando]

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Because L&P in last post wrote that he will be unavailable till saturday. Some private life stuff. Anyway L&P still a human and deserve time for himself.

 

[lockerxx]

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Relax it looks this week he will finished the last event.

 

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[AchedCroissant]

burns out from what,a hectic update schedule seriously.over 1500 patrons back this game.you are seriously suggesting that a dev should plan a game release around his/her retirement plan or to include their healthcare plan at the expense of their patrons.your statment is poor and naive at best.if you want to defend L+P that is your right and i have no problem with that but i would suggest you stick to the known varibles of the dev/game because your post is only going to antagonise people who already have issues with it.

You did not understand what I wanted to say I will never defend a person like l & p I did not want to be aggressive in what I wrote but I meant that what you are looking for is to get as much money as possible until one day this game ends or not that will be secondary for hi

 

[Talcum Powder]

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Thanks, I think I and this whole thread needs more of this.

 

[xxxorro]

I know I am not the only one who thinks that firstly Sophia needs a tipping point event to actively cheat on Liam, and secondly that we have not such an event, yet.

I think Apollodore might be on the right lines thinking that could be tied in with Ctahy & Andy, either this meeting or the next one. If Liam shows that he is too eager to have sex with Cathy (to help them have a baby if Andy is in fact infertile), then even though it is not Liam cheating on Sophia if she agrees to it, BUT it could allow Sophia to think "Well if it is ok for Liam to have sex with another....."

Even if fertility is nt used as such a plot point, could still get to a similar scenario if Liam pays too much attention to Cathy or he is ok with Sophia and Andy flirting (personally I don't think the latter as Liam has previous for showing jealousy re Sophia).

I agree on the idea of tipping point.

We don't know if Cathy and Andy will be part of it. If the swinger speculation is true is more for the GW path because we know he said that. If it is not, then they can contribute or play a large part in tipping Sophia behavior.
Also we don't have any visibility on the events of PD 14 (other than the 1st side job and the museum) and PD 15 (ranch), so if they are involved, something with them should happen in these PDs, as they lead to the famous PD16. And here I'm assuming that being such a big moment it won't be hurried in such a small event (per L&P comments).

The other thing is to see how we actually get to that tipping point. It could be gradual and, as you say, Sophia can start thinking of cheating because of e.g. Liam comments or any other reason in this or any other event. Something that slowly but inevitably manifests in her inner thoughts.
But, as I quoted yesterday, he also talked about these "lucid approaches" which I interpret (but I could be wrong) as the rationalization of the situations that Sophia did so far. According to the quote, PD 16 will be something wild (**something** unexpected) which may also mean that it takes Sophia off guard. So instead of a slow build up of the cheating idea, it **could** be a sudden situation that defeats the way of rationalizing and make her abandon to her emotions and lust. Hard to tell what it could be though (again, I hope alcohol or other stuff are involved).

 

[Ginji]

You did not understand what I wanted to say I will never defend a person like l & p I did not want to be aggressive in what I wrote but I meant that what you are looking for is to get as much money as possible until one day this game ends or not that will be secondary for hi

i did not understand because of your post,you were not aggressive but you were defensive in that you tried to justify why we are here with this dev.no worries we got that cleared up.i do hope this game gets completed and the supporters get what they want but for me its too little and way too long so im out.

 

[AchedCroissant]

i did not understand because of your post,you were not aggressive but you were defensive in that you tried to justify why we are here with this dev.no worries we got that cleared up.i do hope this game gets completed and the supporters get what they want but for me its too little and way too long so im out.

It's the language barrier I couldn't manage to explain myself better lol

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

burns out from what,a hectic update schedule seriously.over 1500 patrons back this game.you are seriously suggesting that a dev should plan a game release around his/her retirement plan or to include their healthcare plan at the expense of their patrons.your statment is poor and naive at best.if you want to defend L+P that is your right and i have no problem with that but i would suggest you stick to the known varibles of the dev/game because your post is only going to antagonise people who already have issues with it.

It doesn't matter what a person's schedule is or how many people back their project, a person can burn out for any number of reasons even just getting tired of doing the same project over a long period of time. Look at George R R Martin for example. He was on a roll cranking out his books in the beginning each spaced just a few years apart, but after getting involved in the TV series it's already been 10+ years since we've even heard of when his next book is due out and that's not even considering he has one more book due out after that. Be it a game or book series eventually even the most dedicated creator will get tired of working on the same project for that long of a time. I'm sure both Martin and L&P have thought of new ideas they'd like to work on during the years while continuing with their current projects. And the more those new projects pop up in their thoughts, the more their current project will weigh them down and turn from a joy to becoming a chore.

 

[maybes4]

can we stop comparing awam and beingadik, guys?
They are not lol and dota

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

It's just unbelievable how you dodge everything that doesn't fit to your theory. But that's what trolls do, so nothing new here. I never said he has any kind of skill in team work. If you read some of my other posts, you'll see I believe he has 0 skill in teamwork, but what does it have to do with the fact he does work with somebody, and as little as may be, that saves him time.
And about insults, I don't support L&P with his stupid insults. They only show he has some serious issues, but be hones here - that's what you really wanted. All you're doing here is calling him names, talk *** about his work and between the lines moking his art. For me it was obvious, knowing how he reacted here in the past, that soon he wouldn't be able to keep himself. If you have even small amount of emotional intelligence you knew this also. That's not me defending him for his insults, just my opinion on the subject.

If I waste your time, feel free to use the ignore function.

And for the sidejob, I didn't gloss over it, but it's irrelevant to what I was discussing here. You can write about it here as long as you like, I guess nobody will defend him for this. He sure ain't perfect. If that's what you're saying, I guess everyone here feels the same.

It's not about being perfect or not, it's about constantly lying. And I'm not the one dodging anything. I quote and answer pretty much everything. Did the same with L&P until he ran away because he had 0 answers other than calling people names.

I hope you're not saying that it's my fault that everytime L&P comes here he shows what a messed up individual he is. I've written plenty of posts about this VN, pros&cons etc.
I, and others, have unmasked plenty of his lies.
Regarding his so called team, let me remind you he had the audacity to come here and lie (obviously) about not getting offers to help him out with translation when we specifically got a translator to contact him (and before you say anything, yes L&P did ask for help getting people in Patron). he just didn't know he knew before he came here spewing nonsense.

Damn, hopefully next time he goes to South Korea he gets his brain rearranged. Would probably do him wonders.
Failed Patreon goal promises. All of them.

How the guy can have a sidejob AND work 11h AND be in a college course is beyond everyone.
Oh wait, maybe he doesn't work the 11h he so much preaches.
THAT would explain a lot, wouldn't it? Yeah.

All the best